This may seem small, but it also creeps me out that Tom calls her Kate instead of Katie...like he had to name her himself. Plus, he's always pulling her around town in all the pictures we see of them. So controlling. I think one day she'll be free of him and then there'll be crazy media frenzy and a memoir, "My Life with Tom," or "Tom's Prisoner" or something. Makes me sad.
Beyonce traumatized after watching sister give birth: THERE, I told you all so. Your births do not need an audience of thousands to be a life-changing beautiful experience.
@18thfloor: Yup, they're both my age. One is in the same 'spot' (married to nice guy while chillin' out working on what they like), the other- not so much. Which is kinda sad.
The link above for the Natalie Maines story didn't work. This one does: [www.huffingtonpost.com]
Interesting that Maines is getting involved in the West Memphis Three. I'm pretty sure the boys are innocent too, but it's not smart to go around fingering other people as suspects. I'm no lawyer, but it seems that she IS guilty of defamation.
John Mayer: Successful, attractive, self-effacing, serial monogamist who dates professional, sometimes older women on his level of fame, labeled douche.
Justin Timberlake: Successful, attractive, self-effacing, serial monogamist who dates professional women, sometimes older women on his level of fame, labeled douche.
George Clooney: Successful, attractive, self-effacing, serial monogamist who dates cocktail waitresses half his age and nowhere near his equal, labeled untouchable god.
@Macloserboy: THANK YOU. I don't get the Mayer hate at all. On one hand, I don't find him terribly interesting or original, but on the other hand, he REALLY can't be the Walking Bucket of Bubonic Plague that people make him out to be. He's just some dude, y'know?
I keep hearing things from people who are like "Oh, I used to know him when (x) or (y) before he got famous, now he's a total cockbag." Really? Do these people know him personally now? No? Jeez, it's not like the dude insults puppies and treads on petunias for a hobby.
@Miss Carrie Nation: He's a world famous, millionaire Oscar winner. They are cocktail waitresses. When it comes down to who says what they do and when they do it, how much of a voice do you think she has as opposed to how much of a voice Jennifer Anniston and Jessica Biel have? If they don't want to do things George's way at any time, well, they can go back to tending bar and waiting tables. His dating trends are not an accident and if it were any other man, Jezebel would be ripping him a new one.
@Macloserboy: I think it's their extracurricular activities that separate them. When have we last seen Mayer (other than the obama cake) or JT doing anything for the greater good?
@scullymurphy: Also their disparate levels of hotness should could have something to do with it. Clooney is hot like the sun wheras JT is maybe frying-pan level and Mayer is babybath water.
@Macloserboy: OK,you opened the door, so I'm going to walk right through it: I think Clooney is just as douchey as the other two. He just has more of a brain then JT and JM combined, so he comes off better.
@Macloserboy: Well, at the same time, I don't want to deny Clooney's dates of their agency. They may be "just" cocktail waitresses and they may be younger than he is, but they're all grown-ass adults. They know Clooney is a jet-setting, serial monogamist gajillionaire.
I agree with you that it isn't a particularly even match, socioeconomically speaking, and Clooney probably has a lot more clout financially than his objects of affection, so I get what you're saying. But I like to think they know that when they're getting into.
@scullymurphy: Well, for the sake of argument, what exactly should they be doing for the greater good? JT and Mayer are professional musicians. They show up to their studios and/or performances, they make some music and then get paid some obscene amount of money for it. It's their job.
It would be nice if they had reputations for compassion and philanthropy, but do they really have to in order to make music? Would Mayer be redeemed somehow if he married Aniston and they adopted a passel of disadvantaged kids and gave tons of money to charity? I mean, I guess it would be nice, for the kids and the beneficiaries of said charity, but JT and Mayer are just musicians. I don't think they really have to do anything other than show up and make music.
Now, I actually don't really care much for either of them. I don't really follow gossip about JT or Mayer and I don't listen to their music. But, hell, they're living productive lives and not harming anyone.
hmmmm I would love to jump into a philosophical discussion on just what you proposed, but mb it's out of place here.
We blabber on about the golden rule: DO unto others ... but I propose the silver rule as a better option in the general case: DO NOT DO unto others what you would NOT have done to yourself. That's enough right there for 95% of the world.
@Macloserboy: I never quite understand the rampant hate for Jon Mayer on this site, either. A true-blue douche would never poke fun at himself the way Mayer does. It's clear that he is clowning around with a role portrayed by the likes of TMZ, and is probaly a really chill, down-to-earth guy behind the scenes. On top of that (flame away), his music has basic emotional appeal and he's not at all bad to look at, either.
@rednrowdy: My new puppy is named Bentley. Most people assume (incorrectly) that he is named for the car. Nope! He's named after Bentley on the Jeffersons. I am OLD.
@Kittenish has gone to the dogs...: Awwww, my bestie's sheepdog was named Bentley! I don't know where the name came from, but I doubt it was the car :)
Ok, maybe I'll sound crazy for saying this, but I don't get all the 'Katie Holmes is a robot' shit. Maybe Tom Cruise is using her as he rebound baby momma, but she's using him just as much. Way before this she'd been trying to shed her 'Dawson's Creek little girl' persona and what better way to accomplish that than to marry a big movie star and dress like a grownup? That's basically what she's always struck me as in her interviews and pictures, she's a young woman who wants to be glamorous but hasn't grown into it so instead she looks like an awkward kid. I think it reflects in her interviews because she mentally hasn't reached that place of maturity. Tom Cruise does seem to target mentally vulnerable women, but I honestly think it's because he gets to play 'knight in shining armor' for them, he's seemed like someone who needs a lot of ego-stroking. But I refuse to believe this is some sort of one-sided parasitic relationship. Because Katie Holmes may be young, but she was never stupid.
@battleaxonista: I agree partly with what you've said - I think she's a willing participant. However, I also think she's just not a very bright young woman. Even on Dawson's Creek, she'd always deliver her lines so quickly, I'm guessing most of them went over her head.
Some dumb paparazzi asked Robin Williams' daughter Zelda why her dad wasn't partying with her: "You don't take an alcoholic out to a club," she explained. Also, why would she be clubbing with her dad?
David Duchovny and Tea Leoni were spotted taking their kids out for frozen yogurt in New York and being lovey-dovey. It seems they may move into a new apartment together this month and are "working on" their relationship.
@Miss Carrie Nation: I mean we are encouraging their outrageousness by acknowledging that they exist. We should apply the post-modern version of Descartes "I don't think of them, therefore they don't exist". Poof, they just disappeared in a cloud of smoke.
I aim to adopt that tack with all 'celebrities' who don't actually serve a purpose. Mostly as an incentive for them to better themselves. For example, Paris Hilton is a fame junkie of the highest order, but I also don't think she is as big a dolt as she makes out. If she was uninvested of her celebrity spotlight, maybe she'd do something to earn it back properly.
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Interesting that Maines is getting involved in the West Memphis Three. I'm pretty sure the boys are innocent too, but it's not smart to go around fingering other people as suspects. I'm no lawyer, but it seems that she IS guilty of defamation.
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John Mayer: Successful, attractive, self-effacing, serial monogamist who dates professional, sometimes older women on his level of fame, labeled douche.
Justin Timberlake: Successful, attractive, self-effacing, serial monogamist who dates professional women, sometimes older women on his level of fame, labeled douche.
George Clooney: Successful, attractive, self-effacing, serial monogamist who dates cocktail waitresses half his age and nowhere near his equal, labeled untouchable god.
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I call girl on girl there. Unless you clarify in what way.
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(FWIW, I like all of the above: I like John Mayer's music, I think JT's hilarious, and Clooney is just... Clooney!)
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I panicked, because of the choice of words. Retracted!
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I keep hearing things from people who are like "Oh, I used to know him when (x) or (y) before he got famous, now he's a total cockbag." Really? Do these people know him personally now? No? Jeez, it's not like the dude insults puppies and treads on petunias for a hobby.
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I agree with you that it isn't a particularly even match, socioeconomically speaking, and Clooney probably has a lot more clout financially than his objects of affection, so I get what you're saying. But I like to think they know that when they're getting into.
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It would be nice if they had reputations for compassion and philanthropy, but do they really have to in order to make music? Would Mayer be redeemed somehow if he married Aniston and they adopted a passel of disadvantaged kids and gave tons of money to charity? I mean, I guess it would be nice, for the kids and the beneficiaries of said charity, but JT and Mayer are just musicians. I don't think they really have to do anything other than show up and make music.
Now, I actually don't really care much for either of them. I don't really follow gossip about JT or Mayer and I don't listen to their music. But, hell, they're living productive lives and not harming anyone.
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hmmmm I would love to jump into a philosophical discussion on just what you proposed, but mb it's out of place here.
We blabber on about the golden rule: DO unto others ... but I propose the silver rule as a better option in the general case: DO NOT DO unto others what you would NOT have done to yourself. That's enough right there for 95% of the world.
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I never quite understand the rampant hate for Jon Mayer on this site, either. A true-blue douche would never poke fun at himself the way Mayer does. It's clear that he is clowning around with a role portrayed by the likes of TMZ, and is probaly a really chill, down-to-earth guy behind the scenes. On top of that (flame away), his music has basic emotional appeal and he's not at all bad to look at, either.
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But this is coming from a woman who owns both seasons on CHiPs on DVD and will almost certainly buy the others when they come out.
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Paparazzi -- not the brightest bulbs on the tree.
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Damn.
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I didn't even know what this crap was until Heidi and Spencer started being 'news' and it tires me.
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I aim to adopt that tack with all 'celebrities' who don't actually serve a purpose. Mostly as an incentive for them to better themselves. For example, Paris Hilton is a fame junkie of the highest order, but I also don't think she is as big a dolt as she makes out. If she was uninvested of her celebrity spotlight, maybe she'd do something to earn it back properly.
Or maybe i'm deluded.
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