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Jack_Burton
11/02/09

In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
People don't want to see crappy hand-drawn animation in a theatre. If you're going to have a crappy story and crappy art, save it for TV - someone might like it. Or not, there's plenty of great animated TV series that have failed to find an audience, most often, because they never air a full 1st season, and no regular timeslot.

In the cinema, a good story can augment any film. However unknown the cast, however unfamiliar the aesthetic, setting, or language - a good story, if it can be told, will prevail - word-of-mouth alone will buoy it up.
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phantom lady
11/02/09

In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
A friend of mine worked on this movie and I can't wait to see it! Unfortunately, since the studios aren't all on board for the hand-drawn animation, when the work it done, he doesn't work until the next movie comes along. #theprincessandthefrog
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Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.
11/02/09

In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
I've always felt like the lone hater when it comes to CG animation. Good to see somebody else trying to get hand-drawn work back on the screens. #theprincessandthefrog
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Dictator for Life
11/02/09

@Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.: I don't like it either. And it doesn't help that most CG movies seem to be about bugs or aliens or monsters, when all I want to see in a cartoon is a fairy tale. #theprincessandthefrog
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Kitty
11/02/09

@Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.: Trust me, from someone in the business. You are not alone :) #theprincessandthefrog
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RiloKilo
11/02/09

In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
I love beautiful, hand drawn animation, but most of the Disney flicks since... I don't know, maybe Mulan, have simply looked boring, and as if less care has been taken in their animation. It seems like Disney is now in the business of churning out crappy sequels to all their good movies (how many Peter Pan and Little Mermaid sequels are there now??). I really, really hope The Frog Princess is good and a return to classic Disney! In any case, it does look gorgeous.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
11/02/09

In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
I am excited for the SONGS!!!! I love musicals. I can't wait for a new generation of little girls to get their very own, "Part of your world" #theprincessandthefrog
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hortense
11/02/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: This, too! I hope the songs are good. #theprincessandthefrog
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midwestdesigner
11/02/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: I can burst into song in front of any woman 'of a certain age' and she will not only be able to recite every word of that song, but sing it with passion. Ariel FTW. #theprincessandthefrog
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jhuang
11/02/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: me too! I've heard one related song -- Never Knew I Needed by Ne-Yo -- it's not exactly the sing-along type but it's so cute nonetheless. And the video has a subtle tie-in to the movie. #theprincessandthefrog
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
11/02/09

@midwestdesigner: So true. I used to have sing offs with my cousin (I am so the better Ariel but she wouldn't admit it) #theprincessandthefrog
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lilyHaze
11/02/09

@midwestdesigner: I want to live in a world where it is acceptable to burst into song in order to describe your emotions. Musical monologues are also part of this world. Spontaneous, choregraphed numbers are mandatory. #theprincessandthefrog
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midwestdesigner
11/02/09

@lilyHaze: Me too! Additionally, I would actually have a good singing voice in this magical world. #theprincessandthefrog
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lilyHaze
11/02/09

@midwestdesigner: Obviously people can sing in tune in this magical world. In fact, they sing beautifully. #theprincessandthefrog
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lilyHaze
11/02/09

In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
You are awesome, John Lasseter.

Love,
Pixar's bitch

I never tuned into Pixar movies because of the flashy graphics. I took a Computer Graphics elective in college, and we watched all of their shorts in class. I was too absorbed by the story to study the technical details.
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hortense
11/02/09

In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
This is so true. The Disney hand-drawn films that bombed (things seemed to drop off after Pocahontas, I think) were just dull, from what I remember. The story was missing. Pixar movies are great because they understand the importance of storytelling. There are a TON of crappy computer-animated films out there, and no amount of technical wizardry can rescue them from their basic problem, which is that the story itself is lousy. #theprincessandthefrog
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vamvaki_poulaki
11/02/09

@hortense: It's amazing how Pixar manages to make their films more beautiful, more detailed and have a really good story, it just proves that you can have your cake and eat it too. I'll be first in line to buy Up! next week.
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OneBigPear
11/02/09

@hortense: I agree with the bulk of this. Mulan was fantastic though, and I MUCH prefer it to Pocahontas.

But I do think there was a disconnect in Disney marketing for a while. More in the 2000's. I had no interest in seeing Atlantis, for example, but I rented or borrowed it at some point and really enjoyed it.

I am excited to see TPATF, partly because of the more classical animation. I hope the storytelling is good too though! :) #theprincessandthefrog
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hortense
11/02/09

@OneBigPear: I didn't even know there was an Atlantis, so you're probably right. #theprincessandthefrog
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LaComtesse
11/02/09

@hortense: Let us not forget The Emperor's New Groove, which is WAY under-appreciated and underrated. #theprincessandthefrog
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Chrysocolla
11/02/09

@LaComtesse: That's the only "Recent" Disney movie I like. All of the others I've been really disappointed with. TENG is just hilarious, both adults and children can laugh at it. Great movie. #theprincessandthefrog
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LaComtesse
11/02/09

@Chrysocolla: "Why do we even HAVE that lever?!" #theprincessandthefrog
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JerseyGrrrl
11/02/09

@LaComtesse: YES! The Emperor's New Groove is my FAVORITE. Kronk never fails to amuse me with his blithe silliness and sudden brilliance :) #theprincessandthefrog
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BytheSea
11/02/09

@LaComtesse: Road to El Dorado ftw, esp if you're the slashy type. #theprincessandthefrog
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kerry
10/27/09

In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
As disappointed as I am about the first African-American "princess" spending 90% of the movie as a frog, I agree with Dodai that at least the human version will be at the park -- and, presumably, on all the merchandise -- for girls (and boys) to see. #theprincessandthefrog
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mommy_dearest
10/28/09

@kerry: We don't know yet how much time she spends as a frog. #theprincessandthefrog
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totallynavy
10/27/09

In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
I'm really excited for this movie. A lot of people seem to be upset that Tiana will be spending the movie as a frog. Really? I mean, Mulan was a man for half of her film. Somebody else just told me that Tiana wasn't a princess to begin with, that since she marries a prince it is demeaning to women. Belle wasn't a princess either at first, but she was pretty much one of the best heroines, ever, along with Cinderella. And as for working as a maid being offensive? Please. Cinderella worked her ass off being the house maid for her icky step-family. Why can't people just let the kids (and I) enjoy this movie instead of weighing it down with the PC patrol?
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bookling
10/27/09

@totallynavy: I was under the impression that neither Tiana nor her "prince" were actually a princess or prince, due to the fact that the movie takes place in 1920's America. In the movie storybooks I've seen at work, though, it seems that her restaurant at the end is called "Tiana's Palace" or something similar, thus making them "royalty". #theprincessandthefrog
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mommy_dearest
10/27/09

@bookling: SPOILER SPOILER: We just got the story book (easy reader version). In the book, there is no indication that Prince Naveen is a fake prince. He gets turned into a frog by evil Facilier. He has to kiss a princess to turn back into a prince. He sees Tiana at a costume party dressed as a princess, and mistakes her for one. They kiss, but since she is NOT a princess, SHE turns into a frog. They then spend time trying to get fixed. He is then supposed to kiss another princess (who looks to be a grown up little blond girl that was friends with Tiana), but it is too late. By that time, Tiana and the prince are in love (as frogs) and get married (as frogs). By marrying the prince, Tiana becomes a real princess, so when they kiss, it actually works, and POOF they turn back into people. Then she gets her very own restaurant at the end. #theprincessandthefrog
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bookling
10/27/09

@mommy_dearest: So does "prince/princess" just equal "rich person/old money" here? I'm just confused because without kings and queens, how can you have princes and princesses? #theprincessandthefrog
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mommy_dearest
10/27/09

@bookling: It doesn't say where Prince Naveen is from, but it does say that he is visiting New Orleans, not actually from there. So I assume he is from another country? #theprincessandthefrog
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elysium_kitschen
10/27/09

In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
Screw FL, when will she be at Disneyland??? (Just kidding, Floridians...) #theprincessandthefrog
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Dodai
10/27/09

@elysium_kitschen: I mention Disneyland in the post, and there is more information at the link provided. #theprincessandthefrog
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elysium_kitschen
10/27/09

@Dodai: Oops. That's what happens when I read too fast :) I guess I know where I'll be on Nov. 6. #theprincessandthefrog
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jfwlucy
10/27/09

In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
I'm also thrilled Disney has finally figured out what to do with the color green besides Tinkerbell. Every princess has her signature color(s).

Snow White -- red, blue, yellow
Cinderella -- blue
Sleeping Beauty -- pink
Ariel -- red and green
Belle -- yellow
Jasmine -- purple
Pocahontas -- brown
Mulan -- aqua and pink

Black is for the bad girls

That leaves orange for the future La Princesa Latina!!

Seriously, doesn't the whole concept of a Quinceañera fit right into a Disney movie? ! #theprincessandthefrog
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pengcat
10/27/09

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Why is Buzz Lightyear there? Please don't tell me he is being co-opted into the princess maelstrom. #theprincessandthefrog
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GreyEminence
10/27/09

@pengcat: They needed someone cool to keep the Beast company. You just know that the two Prince Charmings are like that annoying couple that makes out all the time and ignores everyone around them. #theprincessandthefrog
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desgarcons
10/27/09

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I'm not watching this movie because I am terrified of frogs. I can't even stand the trailer. I'm glad there's no giant frog at the Magic Kingdom. #theprincessandthefrog
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
10/27/09

In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
In case anyone is curious, here's the Tiana costume dress.

[www.disneystore.com]

Expensive, but if it were my size I'd totally buy it. #theprincessandthefrog
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o-line
10/27/09

In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
The expression on Snow White's face reminds me of the scene in The Little Mermaid, in which the other princess mermaids sing about their charms and go to introduce Ariel, who is not there, and the music screeches and everything goes to pot.

In other news, Tiana's presence excites me, and I was never a big princess fan.
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