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It's a thinly-veiled Mormon allegory-slash-BDSM fest, and it's hilarious. Also, RENESMEE!
11/17/09
but i know that alot of twihards don't see through the self-destructive obsession and heavy-handed moralism (i mean, come on, she dies because she wont get an abortion), but i just can't give up my love of the camp. i know better, but its just so deliciously trashy. #twilightmen
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I don't remember this much XY-whining when The Wolverine was named Sexiest Man. (I'm going to pretend it's still that year; please don't mess with my reality construct.)
What gives? Is it a recession beef, that vampires've had more time to collect compound interest on their 401Ks and so have more cash for full bottles at the bar? *rolleyes*
11/17/09
At least, that's the movie image. He needs to look like a teenage boy so there's an element of "pretty" that just seems built in. Add glitter and voila! #twilightmen
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Is Edward wearing a Members Only jacket? I get the guy is old and that vampires can't look in mirrors, but come on now. This. Is. Not. Acceptable.
Vampires are scary. Vampires don't sparkle. Vampires don't play baseball. And they definitely don't wear Members Only jackets. Dracula was scary and the Hell of a snazzy dresser. #twilightmen
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I don't think it's surprising that overworked, under appreciated moms are day dreaming about a beautiful man, who exactly knows what they want without them having to verbalize it (suddenly all those Cosmo tips work!) to come and pay attention to them.
Also I haven't read the books and only saw part of the first movie, but that werewolf guy seems way hotter and SO much more of a bad ass.
Edward and Bella just needs to ship off to Little Lord Fauntleroy School for Albino Hemophiliacs and leave me with the hot werewolves. Sure the writing would still be bad, but that's what ball gags are for.
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I do understand the fantasy aspect of it, and the giddiness/intensity of first love/adolescent emotions. I would imagine when you've been married awhile you miss the newness. And the idea of undying love has appealed to audiences for so long now it's unlikely to ever go away. #twilightmen
11/17/09
The Bella character seems to be robbed of her choices by pretty much everyone several times in the books ("for her own good/safety"), but there is no actual rapey scene as far as I can remember.
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But, thanks for the clarification. Definitely doesn't make me like the werewolf anymore, though. :} #twilightmen
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#calendar
11/17/09
Jim Roden seems to have taken a good lesson from his wife's fondness of the books, but most of these ladies just seem crazy. #twilightmen
11/17/09
I just can't get too worked up over all this stuff. #twilightmen
11/17/09
Lloyd stays away from Diane other than that moment...and while Verona singing is one of the more ridiculous aspects of that movie, neither girl gets lost in that relationship. It's just a very different message.
I'm not saying Twilight is anything to freak out over. It's not. But it is portraying a particular stalker vibe without criticism. #twilightmen
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He has a crush on Death? Aww. Well, she's the most awesome of the Endless. #twilightmen
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I think I'm gonna go as Death next year...if the weather is warm enough (I've haven't seen her in a coat yet...) #twilightmen
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Time for me meds. #twilightmen
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Not only sexy, but organised and resourceful. Now there's a reliable stalker. #twilightmen
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Now...the werewolves? Hmm, uh, their age is somewhat problematic, but, yeah, I NEVER saw a 17 y.o. built that at my high school. Ooofa. So wrong. #twilightmen
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I don't have words for how wrong that is. I don't read the books but even if it makes sense within that context, it's still sending out an incredibly detrimental message. #twilightmen
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(Why do I know these things? Because I have a compulsion to finish serieses. Damn it.)
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The problem is that art imitates life and these people ARE taking that message to heart, whether they realize it or not. And, of course, not everyone who loves the book is a teenage girl, and not every girl "grows out of it." #twilightmen
11/17/09
I guess it's just a rough-sex fantasy(no stranger to those myself), but it's disturbing, even in the context of the book. The point is that she's so weak, she needs this guy to defend her, and in real life that's not a good thing. She's pretty much physically abused by everyone, but it's ok because he loves her and can't control himself and is so strong. The message is that it's ok for him to be physically rough because he has good intentions. It's still creepy. It's not that the sex is intended to be rough, it's that he just can't help himself. I don't think I'm making much sense; maybe someone else can explain it better. #twilightmen
11/17/09
And guys, it really is *just fiction*. I read the book and it sounded like they were having a rip roaring good time. They waited until they were married and everything! Let the poor (FICTIONAL) characters have some fun! #twilightmen
11/17/09
I get that, when you like something, it's really hard to have people critique it all the time. And for you the individual it's okay for you not to want to get into deep analysis for yourself. But to say that it's "just fiction" is...I don't know. Stories have power like ideas have power.
Everyone knows they're fictional. No one is arguing that they're real people and should be treated with the same levity as reality. But it's pop culture. That kind of stuff both reflects and influences actual things people believe and think. A little critique shouldn't ruin anyone's fun if the work is really "just fiction" in the sense that it's just superficial.
I'm not saying Meyer is trying to tell all girls to be weak, or that it's okay to be abused by a lover. But that's still what she's presenting in her story with way she's told it. Intention and execution are two different things.
I respect that you like the stories and wish people would just read them for fun. You can do that. But analyzing pop culture is sort of the entire point of Jez. I don't think anyone is taking these books too seriously. It's like saying who cares about advertising, or the fixation with Disney princesses, they're harmless. Except when they really aren't. That's all anyone is really looking at when it comes to this. Parsing out what they personally find acceptable in their own entertainment.
I mean, I love romance and love stories. Including supernatural ones. But even the ones I love, like Buffy, aren't exempt from discussion on the basis of being "just fiction". #twilightmen
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from what i can tell there were about 6 million deadbeat dads circa 2005. #idiocy