I broke my Della when I mixed it up for a pillow during a pillow fight at the slumber party with my friends, while we wore bras and panties and sipped merlot. But I'm still keeping it since it matches my undies!
What's funny is that mattress manufacturers and even auto manufacturers (General Motors) - don't do this, and it's a similar paradigm: under the shell, the machines are nearly identical, even produced in the same factories. How they are branded and sold, is the difference.
Yes, your Macbook Pro was built in the same building, by the same workers, from the same components, as my Asus G1.
That's why the question "What's the best computer?" is inherently flawed; comparing Brand X, model Y with Brand Z, Model Q might be comparing apples and oranges, unless you look closely at specifications, and then you might see that the only differences are cosmetic and the length of the warranty.
The best computer is the one that is the most useful FOR YOU.
@Jack_Burton: Auto companies DO do this, actually. Anyone remember the Coach edition of the Lexus? Coach leather interior and comes with a handbag? Or the advertising for any "chick" car -- the Beetle etc.
@heatherwritesstuff: Not really the same thing; There's no exclusive girls' Beetle website, they ALL came w/ the flower vase, the salesperson tailors the sale, etc. Also, Beetle isn't a Miata, or a Mini, but a Chevy Tahoe is a GMC Yukon.
Separate-sex print and TV ads aren't new, and we expect a certain amount of neutrality and savvy from them, as "spillover" for either sex, is ad-money well spent.
Also, the Coach Edition could be had w/ a briefcase, alternately, if I recall. The VW Trek edition let you choose what mountain bikes came with your Jetta, etc...
My hunches with this campaign.: Dell is looking to hit the professional, married, age 30-50 woman, who uses a desktop computer at work, and a shared, older desktop PC at home (that's on it's way out). Alternately, Dell wants to snag females of all ages that have disposable income, and are ready to make a tech purchase, but are not acquainted with tech, and don't feel like asking someone else "what to get" and risking embarrassment.
Dell wants to snipe from RIM (Blackberry) and Apple (iPhone and MacBook) by trying to make the netbook a power-fashion accessory. I can't imagine it's worth the risk they've already taken, or the money they've spent.
"Why carry a portfolio and a smartphone and use a desktop?" - I bet that's how the pitch went...
@Jack_Burton: I'm really confused as to your point, but I *think* you're saying that a laptop is basically the exact same product as any other laptop on the market. But I can't decide if you're hating on this campaign or not, or why, exactly, that would make a campaign better or worse. Any product can be positioned at women, regardless of whether it is inherently a "chick product" or not, and regardless of whether it has equivalent models that are not targeted to women.
I would like to say that I worked for the agency that handled Dell's interactive marketing for years. Interestingly enough, they also handled Mercedes Benz -- and both accounts that I worked on had a lot of blatant pandering to women. Open up any women's mag vs. a men's and you'll see that car ads directed at women are focused on the cutesy style factor and include lifestyle shots of girly girls singing along to the radio in their convertible. Ads targeted at men feature product-as-hero shots and mention performance, speed and reliability. Same car. Marketed two different ways. Happens all the time, in EVERY industry.
As for your "hunches," they're right about both, not just one. The agency likely created personas -- as in multiple -- and pitched to those demographics. Not rocket science or shocking; every agency does this.
@heatherwritesstuff: I'm saying the campaign is a failure not because it is targeting women, but because it's trying to "force the meme" and make netbooks something they aren't (and informed women obviously resent this).
They'd have spent the money better either doing a more gender-neutral campaign, or by paying celebrities to carry them around, as the mobile phone industry does.
The profit margins are too thin and there's too much competition to justify this type of niche marketing on them - especially when women as a whole perceive that they are being patronized, rather than being able to identify within or without the niche.
A lack of tech-savvy is seen as sexism here. A focus on fashion and other topics that interest women is seen as sexism here. It's a complete backfire.
How the larger market views the campaign is more important than how well it serves the niche.
I was trying to explain that to a friend of mine that hasn't been having much luck with the ladies lately. He calls to complain about women troubles to me and I try to tell him, stop thinking about it as talking to "women," think about it as talking to people!!!! Where did this idea that women aren't people ever come from!?!?
I hate to generalize, but this is what patriarchal society hath wrought. Marketing ideas that dictate women will pay more for laptop computers in candy colors 'cause we're hardwired for sparkly things.
As someone who has a lavender garden hose, a pink cell phone, and some pink kitchen gadgets, I appreciate that certain products now come in a variety of different colors. It's the marketing of said products that is the problem.
@millefleur: I recently bought a pink cover for my phone (it was the only one they had) and it's felt strangely liberating, having never owned any "pink" products before.
But we ladies are magpies who will only be drawn to the sparkliest objects on the room. Clearly Dell just needs to get to work with the Bedazzler and sales will skyrocket.
If it doesn't come with a bag of Baked Ruffles, a variety pack of lip glosses, and a pink carrying case, I'm not buying. Try again, people who try to think I'm a "person" who needs a computer to do "all the same stuff boys do."
i hate that kind of marketing so much. i don't even like 'choosy moms choose JIF' because my dad is the one that buys our peanut butter. Why do marketers feel like they have to divide and conquer? Why can't they see people as a whole. peanut butter and laptops are not feminine products. it's a cheap marketing copout to try to make them into one.
@linnyt is a walking cliché: You're right. I'm always amazed at taglines and campaigns that specifically call out Moms as opposed to, you know, people in general.
@linnyt is a walking cliché: It's really started to bug me lately that all the commercials for cleaning products feature women. Like men don't do laundry or scrub the toilet?
@little_librarian: Nah, 'cause if men tried to scrub the toilet, they'd just drop the baby's bottle in it. Or something hilarious like that. Because stereotypes are hilarious.
I don't have a problem with companies targeting women for marketing efforts. My company, for example, has very few male customer so it only makes sense that we develop strategies around our female archetypes.
Where I have a problem is HOW products are marketed to women, falling into tired stereotypes (we like pink!). It's unoriginal and, even worse, just plain lazy.
In Dell's case, though, we're talking computers. There's really no need to break the customer down by gender. I suspect they were told their female customer was dropping off and this was their effort.
@the_poptart: I know! I didn't even read your comment because the letters are black and black totally doesn't remind me of hearts or puppies or daisies!
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Yes, your Macbook Pro was built in the same building, by the same workers, from the same components, as my Asus G1.
That's why the question "What's the best computer?" is inherently flawed; comparing Brand X, model Y with Brand Z, Model Q might be comparing apples and oranges, unless you look closely at specifications, and then you might see that the only differences are cosmetic and the length of the warranty.
The best computer is the one that is the most useful FOR YOU.
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Separate-sex print and TV ads aren't new, and we expect a certain amount of neutrality and savvy from them, as "spillover" for either sex, is ad-money well spent.
Also, the Coach Edition could be had w/ a briefcase, alternately, if I recall. The VW Trek edition let you choose what mountain bikes came with your Jetta, etc...
My hunches with this campaign.: Dell is looking to hit the professional, married, age 30-50 woman, who uses a desktop computer at work, and a shared, older desktop PC at home (that's on it's way out). Alternately, Dell wants to snag females of all ages that have disposable income, and are ready to make a tech purchase, but are not acquainted with tech, and don't feel like asking someone else "what to get" and risking embarrassment.
Dell wants to snipe from RIM (Blackberry) and Apple (iPhone and MacBook) by trying to make the netbook a power-fashion accessory. I can't imagine it's worth the risk they've already taken, or the money they've spent.
"Why carry a portfolio and a smartphone and use a desktop?" - I bet that's how the pitch went...
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I would like to say that I worked for the agency that handled Dell's interactive marketing for years. Interestingly enough, they also handled Mercedes Benz -- and both accounts that I worked on had a lot of blatant pandering to women. Open up any women's mag vs. a men's and you'll see that car ads directed at women are focused on the cutesy style factor and include lifestyle shots of girly girls singing along to the radio in their convertible. Ads targeted at men feature product-as-hero shots and mention performance, speed and reliability. Same car. Marketed two different ways. Happens all the time, in EVERY industry.
As for your "hunches," they're right about both, not just one. The agency likely created personas -- as in multiple -- and pitched to those demographics. Not rocket science or shocking; every agency does this.
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They'd have spent the money better either doing a more gender-neutral campaign, or by paying celebrities to carry them around, as the mobile phone industry does.
The profit margins are too thin and there's too much competition to justify this type of niche marketing on them - especially when women as a whole perceive that they are being patronized, rather than being able to identify within or without the niche.
A lack of tech-savvy is seen as sexism here. A focus on fashion and other topics that interest women is seen as sexism here. It's a complete backfire.
How the larger market views the campaign is more important than how well it serves the niche.
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I hate to generalize, but this is what patriarchal society hath wrought. Marketing ideas that dictate women will pay more for laptop computers in candy colors 'cause we're hardwired for sparkly things.
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1. Take your normal people product. Make it smaller and remove features.
2. Make it in candy colors.
3. Make it glittery(optional, advanced)
4. Now, charge more money for it.
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Also, can we attach an 'a' onto the end of anything severely stupid that is marketed to women? yogurta, low fat chipas, tamponas, braas...
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Where I have a problem is HOW products are marketed to women, falling into tired stereotypes (we like pink!). It's unoriginal and, even worse, just plain lazy.
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In Dell's case, though, we're talking computers. There's really no need to break the customer down by gender. I suspect they were told their female customer was dropping off and this was their effort.
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That said, I LOOOVE my boring, black, industrial-looking IBM ThinkPad.
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