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    Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon

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    Image of TheGirlWithTheGoldenEyes TheGirlWithTheGoldenEyes
    01/15/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    God Tatiana!


    It's almost sad that you must be gorgeous on the outside - because you are so talentedly gorgeous on the inside. I bet few in your modeling world even know that about you.


    And for all the hard things a model has to do and see, I'm glad there's one out there who's not a 13 year old uneducated Lithuanian - but is instead thoughtful, intellectual, inspired, mature.


    All this stuff is just fuel for the fire, fodder for your book. Your true calling is so completely obviously writing my dear, not pouting!

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    Image of Miss Smith Drank Your Vodka Miss Smith Drank Your Vodka
    01/15/09

    @TheGirlWithTheGoldenEyes: Late to the game, but def agree.
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    Image of Glitterbug (likes life shaken, not stirred) Glitterbug (likes life shaken, not stirred)
    01/15/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    That was a fantastic article, if heartbreaking. I had never heard of her before today, either.
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    Image of ObtuseIntolerant ObtuseIntolerant
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    I agree, Tatiana, you are ACES!
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    Image of misspell misspell
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    Thank you for this. It's beautifully written, and it brings out the real pain and sickness of something that the general public prefers to see as a sort of glamourous tragedy.
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    Image of CHIC NOIR CHIC NOIR
    01/14/09

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    Franken learned to let her agencies, or her husband, handle her affairs, to be engaging, solicitous, and on time, and to never worry about the future because the present is its own bewildering curlicue of moments.


    The worst thing (bold) for a woman to do. A woman must always be in charge of her affairs even if she lets her man feel as if he is.

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    Image of EdithHeadsChignon EdithHeadsChignon
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    "Then Came the Punk, Then Came the Sad" shall be the title of my autobiography
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    Image of Sukie in the Graveyard Sukie in the Graveyard
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    God Damn It! Wiki has no article on Wallis. Bastards.
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    Image of littlebunnyfoofoo littlebunnyfoofoo
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    You're a hell of a writer, Tatiana. Keep planning that book and taking notes ("bewildering curlicue of moments" - wow!) because I for one will be first in line to read it!


    Am off to read the VF article now.

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    Image of PhillyLass PhillyLass
    01/14/09

    @littlebunnyfoofoo: Seconded. You *must* write that dreamed-of book. I'll definitely buy it.
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    Image of msAnthrope msAnthrope
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    They all knew, and nobody directly intervened.


    but wallis made clear over and over again that she accepted the treatment from claude and that she loved him. it seems unlikely anybody would've been able to help her. she would've just returned to him again and again.

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    Image of the memorexe the memorexe
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    Funny, a few months ago I was speaking with a friend who worked with Claude Montana--everyone around was convinced he pushed her out the window. One way or another he did-- of course the problem is that in France you'd have a tough time convicting someone on the basis of mental cruelty.
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    Image of TheUptightMidwesterner TheUptightMidwesterner
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    Modeling sounds like it is so dehumanizing and horrific..why keep doing it?


    I mean, if you see it eroding your sense of self, and you are treated like an object, why not get out?

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    Image of sportz.star sportz.star
    01/14/09

    @TheUptightMidwesterner considers North Face and Sorel high ...: It's not my profession, but it seems from this and other postings Tatiana has done, that the balance of interests tends to continually fall to continuing, because quitting means giving up a job that others envy, that pays well, and that doesn't require a lot of "work." It also always seems like inertia plays a heavy role.


    But, this is just what I get from reading other people'es stories.

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    Image of Sukie in the Graveyard Sukie in the Graveyard
    01/14/09

    @sportz.star:

    @TheUptightMidwesterner considers North Face and Sorel high fashion:


    this might help:

    [jezebel.com]


    and maybe this:

    [jezebel.com]


    and she might laugh at the "pays well" part. And the "work" part. And I'm gonna guess the "envy" part.


    For her, I'm guessing from reading all her posts, it's a job she just loves. There are good parts and there are bad parts. The good just outweigh the bad.


    Tatiana, I hope this is all okay and I'm not speaking out of turn.

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    Image of TheUptightMidwesterner TheUptightMidwesterner
    01/14/09

    @Sukie in the Graveyard: I understand that, and I have read all her posts, but I still don't understand the benefits versus the sacrifice. Maybe I was just asking out loud, I don't know. I cannot wrap my brain around it, and my primary job is one of the most stressful in the world..
    Honestly, I just don't think I could take being a model with all that she describes..


    Tatiana you are a much stronger woman than I...

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    Image of PilgrimSoul PilgrimSoul
    01/14/09

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    Can someone remind me why I'm supposed to find the fashion industry empowerfulling again?
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    Image of Mkp-hearts-NYC Mkp-hearts-NYC
    01/14/09

    In reply to Suicide And Abuse In Fashion's Top Echelon
    This is really fascinating, Tatiana - thanks for another great essay, putting a whole life behind a beautiful face.
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