@NellMood:i am applying to some graduate schools, it would be like me signing a lease for an apartment (in another city) before i got into that grad school. yea it would be a very optimistic thing to do, but it comes off as being really cocky too.
i was always taught to be humble, if not, i should be ready to be hit in the mouth. i remain unconvinced of knox's guilt or innocence, but she was still involved in this whole mess. if knox is innocent, i would think she would still feel bad about the overall situation. the premature plane tickets make it seem like knox doesnt feel any kind of remorse for kercher's death.
it could end up being a bad PR gaffe if she is convicted. im not sure if they announce the sentence right away, but if there is a period in between that, this plane ticket thing may cost her jail time. (knowing the blatant amount of bias in their judicial system)
@porcuPINE: I thought her family bought her the ticket? It just seems like the action of desperately hopeful parents....I don't think Knox herself is making any purchases from jail. Or are you talking about something else?
I don't know if she's innocent or not (there's certainly a lot of support for both claims) but this case highlights just how flawed the Italian legal system is. Between the judge's clear bias, the invasion of the tabloids, and only needing a majority to convict, Italy's court system is amazingly backwards - especially for a western country. There is absolutely no way that she received a fair trial. I really hope the US government intervenes; I don't care what the political ramifications would be, this girl deserves a fair trial.
@JessickerFletcher: unfortunately, if someone is suspected of a crime in a foreign country, that country's laws are tantamount to the US's. i dont think the state department should intervene. it sets a precident, unfortunately, that some might interpret as both bullying and intrusive.
as a student abroad, one is warned repeatedly that you are subject to the laws of the country visited; theres no getting to carry around a little bit of american dirt and claim to be covered by the rights and rules of your home nation.
Every article I read seems to leave me conflicted on her guilt. It seems clear though she is not getting a fair trial. I hope verdict is accurate which ever way it goes.
Why is everybody referring to Shane Ryan as an adult filmmaker? He doesn't make porn; he does amateur B-movies with horror and sexpolitation themes.
Of course, I think I'd much rather if he *were* a pornographer . . . there are some dark, plot-based films that could actually do it well (if it was based on the story and didn't try to promote it as "The Jaycee Dugard Story!"). Shane Ryan, no matter how they try to not make it exploitative, is going to do horribly. Ugh. #jayceedugard
Hooters is losing it's shirt? Oh, the irony! At least now these women won't have to worry about stocking in the workplace (of the orange-hosen variety). #jayceedugard
@MargaretMoony: That was my thought. I mean isn't the point of what they are doing to be exploitative? To take advantage of her situation? #jayceedugard
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The racial gap is even wider between more-educated women. Higher education is linked to a 30 percent reduction in stillbirths among white women, but no reduction in risk among African-Americans.
I'm not sure how to interpret this. Is it because at a certain point, the entire industry is so racist that the education of the patient is irrelevant? Maybe a more subtle racism, like doctors don't look seriously for the problems more often reported by black women? Because I'm having trouble thinking of other reasons. #jayceedugard
@RisaPlata: My first thought was that maybe black women are just biologically at a higher risk for some of the factors that cause stillbirths. The article said the researchers want to look into that.
But your explanation is completely plausible. Depressing, but not surprising. #jayceedugard
@RisaPlata: I heard someone (one of the study's authors maybe) on NPR saying they believed that being subjected to constant, institutionalized racism over the course of a lifetime led African-American women to have greater stress levels which were internalized and caused higher risk pregnancies. #jayceedugard
I would love a study that could say, "Here, look, we found some very specific numbers-based reasons that racism is bad and (more importantly) THAT IT STILl EXISTS."
@MalinaMango: It may be that there are different biological factors. Like white women are at risk for a, b, and c, while black women are at risk for x, y, and z, because of purely biological reasons. The thing is that despite being at risk for a, b, and c, white women still have a better time in the hospital (which you can see because college educated white women have a 30% reduced risk, but black women don't, so it isn't just about class but specifically about race; money makes things better for white women but not black women). This cannot be because white women are just naturally more healthy and naturally more able to have babies without complications. It is almost certainly because problems at affect white people (a, b, c) are researched and therefore the severity of the complications is lessened. Similarly, most medical studies use white people, unless they are specifically designed to look at race or a specific race. I remember reading something not long ago in which a doctor basically said that no major study of heart disease had ever been done on anyone except white men. So almost everything that is known and used in medicine about heart disease is based on what works and what happens with white men. #jayceedugard
@Cimorene: @winner: @kansasgirl: @kontrolle: @MalinaMango: @RisaPlata: I'm getting my Phd in sociology and took a class on racial health disparities last semester. Controlling for BMI, education, all of the things that normally cause health disparities within races still results in a large gap between Black and White women. The article specifically talks about African American women, however once Black immigrant women have lived in the US about 5 years, their outcomes become almost indistinguishable from African American women. All of these things taken together, researchers have pretty much come to the consensus that the cumulative stress of living in a society that promotes institutional racism leads to these disparate outcomes. Hence why as Black immigrants are assimilated into American society, their birth outcomes begin to mirror African American women in the US. The stress caused by living in a racist society begins to affect them in a similar manner to African American women.
I cannot begin describe how sad this makes me. If anyone wants citations to learn more about this issue, please PM me, I'm having trouble accessing my library account right now. For more reading on theories of institutionalized racism in the US, I recommend Joe Feagin's book Racist America as an excellent overview of the topic. #jayceedugard
@Cerridwen: That's because she was kind of a crazy prophet.
I mean, look, I'm prepared to say in the abstract there's probably woman-friendly porn out there, or at least possible. (Dworkin woulda thought so too I think.) But folks, what that filmmaker is doing is the logical extension of the argument that if all the actors in porn consent to it, "It's fine." I mean, assuming they use of-age actors...
ETA: Okay, so it's not a porno. My point still kinda stands if it were, though.
@Cerridwen: amen! when i was in my freshman women's studies class i was completely pro-porn and thought Dworkin was one of the "feminazis" everyone mocked. and yet, as i've gotten older, it becomes more and more obvious that she had many legitimate points... #jayceedugard
I don't think Shane Ryan is talking about making a porno based on Jaycee. He's talking about making an actual documentary-type thing. Still, he's probably a very wrong person to do such a thing. #jayceedugard
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i was always taught to be humble, if not, i should be ready to be hit in the mouth. i remain unconvinced of knox's guilt or innocence, but she was still involved in this whole mess. if knox is innocent, i would think she would still feel bad about the overall situation. the premature plane tickets make it seem like knox doesnt feel any kind of remorse for kercher's death.
it could end up being a bad PR gaffe if she is convicted. im not sure if they announce the sentence right away, but if there is a period in between that, this plane ticket thing may cost her jail time. (knowing the blatant amount of bias in their judicial system)
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as a student abroad, one is warned repeatedly that you are subject to the laws of the country visited; theres no getting to carry around a little bit of american dirt and claim to be covered by the rights and rules of your home nation.
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"Orgy A Logistical Nightmare" [www.theonion.com]
but sadly nothing more relevant.
Oh, and for @AgainWithFeeling: a "Twister Party Fails to Get Dirty" [www.theonion.com]
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Of course, I think I'd much rather if he *were* a pornographer . . . there are some dark, plot-based films that could actually do it well (if it was based on the story and didn't try to promote it as "The Jaycee Dugard Story!"). Shane Ryan, no matter how they try to not make it exploitative, is going to do horribly. Ugh. #jayceedugard
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REALLY? REALLY? Do you not realize what you're doing then? #jayceedugard
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I'm not sure how to interpret this. Is it because at a certain point, the entire industry is so racist that the education of the patient is irrelevant? Maybe a more subtle racism, like doctors don't look seriously for the problems more often reported by black women? Because I'm having trouble thinking of other reasons. #jayceedugard
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But your explanation is completely plausible. Depressing, but not surprising. #jayceedugard
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I would love a study that could say, "Here, look, we found some very specific numbers-based reasons that racism is bad and (more importantly) THAT IT STILl EXISTS."
@MalinaMango: It may be that there are different biological factors. Like white women are at risk for a, b, and c, while black women are at risk for x, y, and z, because of purely biological reasons. The thing is that despite being at risk for a, b, and c, white women still have a better time in the hospital (which you can see because college educated white women have a 30% reduced risk, but black women don't, so it isn't just about class but specifically about race; money makes things better for white women but not black women). This cannot be because white women are just naturally more healthy and naturally more able to have babies without complications. It is almost certainly because problems at affect white people (a, b, c) are researched and therefore the severity of the complications is lessened. Similarly, most medical studies use white people, unless they are specifically designed to look at race or a specific race. I remember reading something not long ago in which a doctor basically said that no major study of heart disease had ever been done on anyone except white men. So almost everything that is known and used in medicine about heart disease is based on what works and what happens with white men. #jayceedugard
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I cannot begin describe how sad this makes me. If anyone wants citations to learn more about this issue, please PM me, I'm having trouble accessing my library account right now. For more reading on theories of institutionalized racism in the US, I recommend Joe Feagin's book Racist America as an excellent overview of the topic. #jayceedugard
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I mean, look, I'm prepared to say in the abstract there's probably woman-friendly porn out there, or at least possible. (Dworkin woulda thought so too I think.) But folks, what that filmmaker is doing is the logical extension of the argument that if all the actors in porn consent to it, "It's fine." I mean, assuming they use of-age actors...
ETA: Okay, so it's not a porno. My point still kinda stands if it were, though.
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