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tiredfairy
11/13/09

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Ergh. That Kate Moss quote is unfortunate. It sounds like a version of how it feels when you don't really eat..."empty" = skinny. Which is pretty close to how you rationalize avoiding food in an ED.

Plus, it's just not true. Food has a pleasurable function, as well as being necessary to live. It's okay to eat because you like how it tastes, or it makes you feel good, or because you want to. Those are all component of "normal" eating. It's when anything gets compulsive that there's a problem.

Also, if your mood is dependent on your size then something is off.
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TrilbyO
11/13/09

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I believe in Kate Moss's philosophy, even though I can't always follow it. I love food, but I love fitting into my clothes and not having a belly roll a lot more. Though the siren call of a good cheesesteak often wears me down. I just think that saying is shorthand for reminding yourself that eating only brings short term pleasure, whereas being thin and fit is ongoing pleasure (for some people). #katemoss
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/13/09

@TrilbyO: I can't believe someone has to spell this out, but it's also widely-acknowledged as being a pro-ana 'motto,' just so you know. #katemoss
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tiredfairy
11/13/09

@TrilbyO: Eating is also necessary to live. If you can't maintain a weight without a mantra like that, or by not eating, something is not right.

To me, it sounds like what she means is feeling "empty"...not skinny. Which is definitely a component to an ED. #katemoss
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TrilbyO
11/13/09

@Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith, @tiredfairy: I know that some pro-ana's use the motto too. But so does Weight Watchers. So do a lot of people who aren't anorexic. I know it has negative connotations for some people, but for just as many others it's a positive message. I respect that you don't agree with it, I just feel differently about the motto. For me, in my experience, it's helpful not harmful. And I don't think Kate has ever been anorexic (that we know of anyway), so maybe it's helpful for her too? I'm more worried by the bragging about deep fried Oreo and Snickers binges, to me that is indicative of an overeating type of ED. I mean, we all see different things in these types of posts (weight), we all have different triggers or whatever. I just don't think Kate is some kind of monster for using that phrase. #katemoss
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/14/09

@TrilbyO: Nobody said she was a monster- I was taking issue with your response to her comment. I think Kate Moss may have actually just been taking the piss. If you identify with it or whatevs, that's cool. My position, from someone with a history of disordered eating, is that the phrase is creepy as hell. #katemoss
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fattylumpkin
11/13/09

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I'm pretty sure Marc Jacobs married this summer, in my hometown.
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Jenna
11/13/09

@fattylumpkin: Incorrect. Though there were rumors they were going to marry all summer, Jacobs and Martone are still engaged — when asked about it recently, Martone said they're planning a wedding over the holidays. #katemoss
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Zulkey
11/13/09

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ooh are we all gonna get butthurt about what Kate Moss says as if we all followed her lead to begin with? #katemoss
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Zulkey
11/13/09

@Zulkey: you know, I just read the quote in context and it seems like she was being tongue in cheek anyway. #katemoss
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The HZA.
11/13/09

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Kate, I dunno if you've ever had deep fried Oreos. But they are amazing. #katemoss
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anya629
11/13/09

@The HZA.: Deep fried Oreos are so delicious! and deep fried Milky Way! and chocolate dipped frozen cheesecake on a stick!

I cannot decide which of these 3 treats is best. but I wish I could be at a state fair right now.
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AndPreciousLittleofThat
11/13/09

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Weird. My mom used that same weight loss phrase to help my dad; she wrote it on pieces of paper and taped them to the fridge and pantry.

My dad is still as fat as ever. #katemoss
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CherriSpryte
11/13/09

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Kate, please meet my good friends, Mozzerella Sticks. They may make my thighs look like big tree trunks, but they make me very happy. #katemoss
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LvV
11/13/09

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Before Kate is crucified as another Elizabeth Hurley, here's the rest of her quote:

WWD: Do you have a motto?
KM: There are loads. There’s "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels." That’s one of them. You try and remember, but it never works.

I mean, it's a silly motto, yes (and reminds me of that Stephen Gullo foolio), but Kate seems to realize that, at least. #katemoss
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snugbug
11/13/09

@LvV: Yes, thank you. I love how 90 percent of commenters never click on the embedded links to gain any measure of context to such trigger-quotes like Moss' before they gas up their torches. #katemoss
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DinosaurDanceParty
11/13/09

@snugbug: I still think it's a stupid motto #katemoss
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ILiketheWord'Pugilist'
11/13/09

@snugbug: Jezebel could add the full comment here for that matter. #katemoss
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Jenna
11/13/09

@ILiketheWord'Pugilist': The full comment? When asked if she had a motto, Moss said essentially, 'Yes, I have a bunch,' and offered the one I quoted as an example. How is my quote reductive? It's not as if she said, 'Yes, I have a bunch,' listed fifteen platitudes, and I seized on the dumbest one. This is exactly and only and fully what Moss herself quoted as words to live by during the interview.
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GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
11/13/09

@LvV: I don't really see how that changes what she said at all. Sure if she'd said that her motto was: "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Just kidding I love pizza and have a fab. body image!" then yes, only posting the first part would be disingenuous. Her motto remains the same, even if she stinks at following it, and if you are curious about the context of a quote, it's always good to click through to the article. The editors are only going to post so much of every item, how this isn't obvious, I have no idea.

Whatever, I still like Kate Moss, this is just a good reminder not to become a model, ha. #katemoss
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hortense
11/13/09

@snugbug: I read the entire piece and I have no issue with calling Moss out on the quote. Anyone familiar whatsoever with eating disorders/pro-anorexia sites knows that's a common mantra, and repeating it as if it's some wisdom to live by is annoying. It's the motto existence that's infuriating, not necessarily Moss using it (though that doesn't help any.)

As for your disemvoweled remarks, I'd advise you to take another look at the commenting rules of this site. #katemoss
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LvV
11/13/09

@GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11): It doesn't really change what she said so much as provide a bit of context for it. Meaning, even Kate the Great herself admits she can't adhere to the motto (at least not all the time). So apparently things DO taste as good as skinny feels (or, more likely, hunger wins out in the end).

And I didn't say anything about click-throughs or disingenuousness. #katemoss
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Ack
11/13/09

In reply to Kate Moss's Deep Thoughts; Obama Girls Wear French Fashion
Kate Moss: I 1000% disagree with you. My sausage lasagna will kick the ass of skinny any day. #katemoss
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Elizabooth
11/13/09

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I do not trust people who don't like to eat. #katemoss
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nyc-caribbean-ragazza
11/13/09

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It bothers me that Jimmy Choo does not design Jimmy Choo shoes. What happened? Does he regret selling?

Some JC shoes are very pretty but they just don't look well constructed to me.

I prefer Blahnik and Louboutin. Not that I can afford them, especially the latter. #katemoss
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Penny
11/13/09

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: My understanding is that Mellon met Choo back in the day and started working with him. She eventually blew the business up and I believe he wasn't interested.

Choos are really, really fucking comfortable. I have never worn Louboutins though.

I wish I had a million dollars. #katemoss
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Triana Orpheus
11/13/09

@Penny: My Choos are terrible on my feet, but I have a really high arch. I'm trying to find a nice pair of Louboutins to squeeze my boats into. #katemoss
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nyc-caribbean-ragazza
11/13/09

@Penny:

I wish I did too. Well, actually make that euros. The low dollar is killing me.

I remember reading an article years ago about Mellon and Choo that was not favorable to Mellon at all. It might have been in Vanity Fair.

From my friends I've heard Choos are the least comfortable.

When I have some money (sigh) I will do a shoe-off between the three brands. ha #katemoss
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snugbug
11/13/09

@Triana Orpheus: Louboutin makes the most comfortable high heels. I swear, they're engineered with NASA technology or something, because they never once gave me gam fatigue. Also, Pierre Hardy (who used to design for Louboutin before he started his own company) makes incredibly.. orthopedic heels. #katemoss
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
11/13/09

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: Isn't Louboutin the one who said Barbie's ankles were fat? I figure that's as good a reason to justify limiting one's shoe purchases to Blahnik (and, I guess, Bruno Magli, and, if I could afford it, Badgley Mischka) as any. #katemoss
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badmutha
11/13/09

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Screw Kate Moss. I'd rather hang out with Miss J and eat some soul food. Collard greens with bacon!! #katemoss
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DinosaurDanceParty
11/13/09

@badmutha: I am so hungry right now his quote was rough to read.. #katemoss
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suiterkin
11/13/09

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You know, I've shopped at Mango, and I still inevitably read those news items as something like, "Chris Kattan's lamé-shortted sex machine gets U.S. distribution deal with Penney's."

And I get really excited about it. #katemoss
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badmutha
11/13/09

@suiterkin: I would so buy the Kattan lame' shorts. For my husband. #katemoss
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soelectric
11/13/09

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Kate, my grandmother has been saying that to me for 20 years. My response is the same as always, have some cake. Cake taste pretty damn good. I don't know how skinny feels but nothing is better than cake. NOTHING. #katemoss
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
11/13/09

@soelectric: Pie! :-D #katemoss
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funzette
11/13/09

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Somebody get that woman a box of chicken mcnuggets. STAT! #katemoss
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AfroJezeBella
11/13/09

@funzette: No no no! Chicken strips and fries from the hole-in-the-wall resteraunt! The huge chicken strips and steak fries with the lone mysterious onion ring... #katemoss
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funzette
11/13/09

@AfroJezeBella: I see where you're coming from, and appreciate the mystical powers of the L.O.R., but the McNugget is the most perfect food ever created. It is more delectable than being a sample size 4 could ever be.

Give me McNuggets or give me death! #katemoss
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AfroJezeBella
11/13/09

@funzette: I've been turned off to chicken mcnuggets ever since I bit into one and found something that wasn't chicken. #katemoss
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