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    Image of MIXED MIXED
    11/23/09

    In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
    I wish I were a Rhodes Scholar with a Rhodes Scholar boyfriend! Pshh overachievers!

    //congrats to both of them, what an achievement!
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/23/09

    @MIXED: Yeah, seriously people. Leave some good stuff for the rest of us! Hoarders.

    Awesome for them. Hooray!!!
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    11/23/09

    @MIXED: The only Rhodes scholar I've ever met had an adorable burnout hippy boyfriend who was more interested in camping than studying. She detested Oxford and didn't finish her degree.
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    11/23/09

    @eibhinn: It's got to be bittersweet winning an amazing, prestigious award and getting an incredible opportunity... all tied to a guy who was a bigot, colonialist zealot who thought white Brits should rule the world (and especially diamond-rich South Africa – Rhodes was co-founder of DeBeers).
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    Image of Alohamaid Alohamaid
    11/23/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: um as someone who practically majored in dating Rhodes while at oxford I'd say you don't want most of them [/insecurity]
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    11/23/09

    @Alohamaid: I didn't mean the boyfriend LOL-- I meant the scholarship!!!

    #tips
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    Image of Alohamaid Alohamaid
    11/23/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: whoops! Feminism fail

    #tips
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/23/09

    @Alohamaid: LOL, no I wasn't specific ;o).
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11/23/09

    In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
    I can't imagine having to reconcile Justice and justice for one you've lost. I don't care how much someone wants to wax poetic about the law/system and how government guarantees human treatment of all its citizens (which it doesn't really anyhow), that will be of little solace to someone in Lockhart-Davis' position.
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/23/09

    @Penny: Yes. I once had this conversation with my dad. He said that if someone murdered me, he would want them to get the death penalty. I argued with him that he doesn't support the death penalty, doesn't believe the state should kill etc etc.

    He just said: "There's a reason fathers of murdered children aren't allowed in sentencing hearings."
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    11/23/09

    In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
    Once again, screw you VMI.

    They recruited me; heavily recruited me. And I made the mistake of visiting the school. They harassed me for 3 months with constant calls/ letters--even after I told them I had accepted elsewhere. It took my dad getting on the phone and in his best commanding officer voice, telling them to fuck off before they stopped.

    I'm sure some women have a fine experience there-- the women I talked to did not recommend it.
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    Image of daradoodle daradoodle
    11/23/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: A sister of a friend of mine went there and had a really awful time. Last I heard she was spending her sophomore year abroad at a military academy in France just to get away.
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    11/23/09

    @daradoodle: I dealt with my share of sexist attitudes in NROTC. But those individuals were exceptions to the general rule. Not to mention guys would get slammed pretty hard by superior officers if they caught wind of comments etc. or witnessed any harassment.

    It seems to be a culture at VMI, and I'm shocked that women survive it. Good for your friend for getting a break!
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    Image of daradoodle daradoodle
    11/23/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: Yeah, I read a bunch about the school for a class (we were focusing on military academies for a couple of weeks), and I have to say, I don't really understand why a woman would choose to go there, knowing what I found out. It seems as though the culture is almost a reaction (a very bitter, nasty one) to being forced to admit women, and its just scary.
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    Image of Her Grace Her Grace
    11/23/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: Many women from my university, Mary Baldwin College, are and were in the military program hosted on our campus, the Virginia Women's Institute for Leadership. VWIL is the only all-female cadet corps in the world, but we're a small school (around 900 students, with about 150 in VWIL at any time) and couldn't offer all of the officer training on campus. Upperclassmen would go down to VMI (about half an hour) and be part of their training; my friends who did so said it was horrible and sexist.
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    Image of Ailatan Ailatan
    11/23/09

    In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
    "They caused, allowed and permitted condoms to be distributed by school personnel to the students, many of which were opened during the school lunch period and thrown on the floor"

    I'm sorry this lady fell and all, but I have a sneaky suspicion that she's just annoyed at students having had some real sex education at school.
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    Image of Gavagirl Gavagirl
    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: When I read that a teacher had "slipped on a condom", I thought maybe it had gotten a little too real. Hooray for linguistic ambiguity and its many amusements!
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    Image of I, Zombie Normal I, Zombie Normal
    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: That's what I first thought, and I hope I'm just a damnable cynic, but I honestly thought it was a ruse to ban sex ed and the condom handouts.
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    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: Sounds a lot like it, eh? She'd have a better case if they were still doing the condoms-on-bananas bit, and she'd slipped on one of those...
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    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: Comprehensive sex ed: it's all fun and games till somebody slips and pokes an eye out.
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    Image of TimFritz TimFritz
    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: Alas! We see why sex ed in public schools isn't working. If it were, they would know that the condoms go on your penis and not on the floor!

    I blame the system!
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    Ailatan promoted this comment Edited by TimFritz at 11/23/09 6:41 PM TimFritz was starred TimFritz was unstarred
    Image of PipPipCheerio PipPipCheerio
    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: They're passing out condoms in schools??!! Everyone will be falling all over the place!!

    Won't someone think of the children??!! [that these children won't be having because they're being given condoms in school]
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    Image of maggiethecat maggiethecat
    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: How the F do you not see garbage on the floor? How do you slip on a used condom? It's not like those things need a decoder pen- they're not made invisible. Maybe her arms were full of promise keeper pamphlets.
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    Image of tacotico tacotico
    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: The good news is that the school is handing out lubricated condoms for the ladies.
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    Image of quisbella quisbella
    11/23/09

    @Ailatan: I'm afraid of the consequences this could have on the sex education of NYC students. Could the BofE then argue that they can't hand out condoms because they don't want this lawsuit to happen again?
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    Image of Elaken Elaken
    11/23/09

    In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
    How amazing to be with someone who is just as intelligent/driven/capable as you. Very cool for Longino.
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    Image of AndPreciousLittleofThat AndPreciousLittleofThat
    11/23/09

    In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
    Boy, that's far and away the most creative argument against condoms in schools I've ever heard.

    Never mind kids having unprotected sex, because we have to worry about the real menace: SLIPPAGE.
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    Image of MalinaMango MalinaMango
    11/23/09

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat: Yeah, by her logic the school cafeterias should also ban bananas, butter, and Jell-O. Oh, and all liquids.
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    11/23/09

    @MalinaMango: I slipped on a pencil in school once, so let's get rid of those. They're practically weapons!
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/23/09

    @I, Zombie Normal: OMG! My seatbelt gave me a welt when I ran my car into that concrete pylon and it saved my li- ... oh never mind.
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    Image of BytheSea BytheSea
    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    I've heard so many kids online say they don't use condoms in a monogamous relationship (teenagers, high school, how long can that relationship be?) and you can't get anything serious if its just lesbians. It's like it's the 80s and no one important has died of AIDS yet and the quilt hasn't toured the country and we didn't all wear the little red ribbons. I feel ike 20 years of history was for nothing.

    We all said we'd teach the younger generation to play safe and this terrible disease would be stomped out, but we really just taught each other. Now these fucking kids think we're just uptight old people who won't let them have any latex-free "fun." Every single one of you shits should have to play your video games with a avatar covered in pustulating herpes boils!!! #chlamydia
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    Image of Flackette Goes Retro Flackette Goes Retro
    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    I really, really think that condom use has everything to do with healthy relationships in general. The only man who has ever tried to dissuade me from using condoms was also a bully in general. The men with whom I have had open, respectful relationships have been totally fine with condom use, and have made sure to have a supply on hand when the relationship got serious. Similarly, the only time I had sex without condoms against my better judgment was because I was young and didn't know how to stand up for myself on the matter. I was swayed by a boyfriend who claimed that using condoms meant I "didn't trust him", even though he admitted he hadn't been tested recently. Now, at the doddering old age of 30, my boyfriend and I actually, y'know, communicate about these things. We used condoms at first, shared testing results, and now don't use them except when my birth control may have been compromised. It's all about general respect for each other, and comfort in talking about sex and contraception. I'm afraid the young people who skip condom use do so because they don't know HOW to talk about the issue. #chlamydia
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    I contracted genital herpes because I thought dental dams were not sexy....you know what else it not sexy?
    having genital herpes. #chlamydia
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    Image of Dictator for Life Dictator for Life
    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    I've had some pretty serious depression and other mental health issues in my life, and a lot of it has manifested in desperately wanting a guy to pay attention to me. This has resulted in a couple of 6-month long benders involving lots of unprotected sex with near-strangers. With all of them, I asked them to wear a condom, and they did the first time, but convinced me not to the second time and beyond. I was in a bad state, and I let myself be taken advantage of, even though I knew better. It's been years since these incidents, and I did get HPV, but luckily nothing worse, but I still get so scared that I have something that hasn't manifested itself. I don't know what kind of education would have helped me assert myself in those situations. I was seeing a psychiatrist and a therapist at the time. I think the guys themselves maybe needed some education to teach them that (a) they can get STDs from girls, and (b) they shouldn't take advantage of girls like that. When I've been in relationships with guys who respected me, they've never had a problem wearing condoms. Only the ones who treated all women generally like sub-humans refused. #chlamydia
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    Image of Grim Reaper of the Forest Grim Reaper of the Forest
    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    I had decent but forgettable sex ed in junior high and high school, but probably the most informative sex ed I got was through my church youth group. Of course, I went to a liberal Northeast church.

    I also agree that actually using condoms is less about sex-ed, and more about feeling comfortable enough to stand up for yourself and having access to condoms and other forms of birth control when needed. #chlamydia
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    Image of Alohamaid Alohamaid
    11/16/09

    @Grim Reaper of the Forest: True that, any man who doesn't put on a condom and HAVE condoms when sexing you hasn't thought enough about your or your safety to gain entree into the holiest of holies. #chlamydia
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    Image of Evie Havok Evie Havok
    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    People need a healthy dose of fear instilled in them against HIV/AIDS and other STDs. Don't people realize that things like HIV/AIDs are lifelong, painful and come with debilitating symptoms? Isn't it just common sense that if you don't use a condom you might just get something from the other person? Even if abstinence-only sex education wasn't taught there would still be some assholes out there who wouldn't use condoms. They woud still use the same excuses : "I don't like the feeling!" ; "I'm clean"; "Don't you trust me?" ; etc, etc. I know I'm not the only who has noticed a whole lot of people not taking AIDS/HIV and the other STDs seriously. I'm including so-called informed and educated people in here, too. There's so many of them who don't use condoms even though they know the risks of unprotected sex. #chlamydia
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    To this day, my grandmother tells all of her grandchildren to "have fun but be careful". She is a Catholic and a Republican, but is very open-minded about birth control. I love her.
    #whymygrannyrules #chlamydia
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    I'd also blame the stigmatization of STDs--people are so embarrassed that they won't tell a partner that they have a disease, or they won't get tested because they're afraid of seeing the results, and unknowingly spread a disease onto a partner.

    If we could just think of STDs the same way we think of strep throat or the flu, rather than stigmatizing those who have an STD as slutty or dirty, I think we'd be a lot better off. #chlamydia
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/16/09

    @pantsless economist...access RESTORED: You sound whorish. #chlamydia
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    Image of LexiD523 LexiD523
    11/16/09

    In reply to Spreading The Love
    It's not just that kids aren't being taught about condoms and such, it's also that they're also not being taught about the symptoms/lack thereof of many STDs. 75% of women and 50% of men with chlamydia are asymptomatic. About half of all cases of gonorrhea are also asymptomatic. Some people carry the herpes virus their whole lives and never have an outbreak, but they can still "shed" the virus and pass it on. HIV doesn't start to show symptoms for 1-3 months.

    And so, because people don't see symptoms, they think they're disease-free, they have unprotected sex, and then don't get tested. I'd also point the blame towards the Religious Right preventing high schools from, not just handing out condoms, but from offering testing as well. And, naturally, lack of health insurance prevents the poor from going to the doctor at all, where any PCP would probably suggest testing at an annual physical.

    A sad situation all around. #chlamydia
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