"Or when you could put a TV on top of a typewriter and pretend it was a computer?" HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! OMG you're not joking - they actually did it! I wonder if people noticed.
The ad makes sense for its time, many PC users as well as Silicon Valley programmers and executives were single, lonely and sex-starved (not that times have changed). The great PC game developer Sierra Online released "Softporn Adventure," and there were dozens of homebrewed porn games for the C-64.
That's not a typewriter, it's an original Apple ][ with the label taped over. (It's not an Apple ][+, which had a recessed power indicator, or an Apple ][e, which had an extended keyboard.) And the Apple ][ sure could use a small television as a monitor; I know mine did.
I feel confident that the screen image is simulated, though.
Mmmmm, kids? Long ago home computers DID use TVs as their monitor. Sorry to burst your collective bubbles, but dedicated monitors back then were: a) real expensive, and b) monochrome (green or amber). For computers with color capability (Apple II, TRS-80, Commodore 64, Sinclair...) the only way was to put a TV up there, which was not a problem with the computers' crappy video resolution.
Mind you, the soft could be ordered on floppy disk or CASSETE!!!
@AEchinoderm: I miss the Commodore 64. We had one for the whole elementary school (which was a luxury, we knew) with a cassette drive so we could play the Pac Man knock off, Gobbler. Oh, the days...
@AEchinoderm: Since my first computer was a Quadra 660 AV, it came with a monitor, but for the past 5 years I've used my tv as a dual monitor for my laptop when I need it. It's great to have the option.
[Satire alert] Okay, the device on the left I can remember how to operate; just like riding a bicycle, one never forgets. But, we really need some help from the Valleywaggers with the box on the right. Is that some sort of CPU that used a regular TV for its video output? Or just a piece of crappity crap crap?
@howinsidious: Wow, I don't remember that, but then again I didn't have an early model at home. So, you're saying that none of the components pictured above are fake?
I do remember lugging a "portable" Compaq suitcase computer home from work once. One roundtrip on the subway with 28 pounds of metal and plastic was enough for me.
No matter how disturbing these games may be, technically, the versions sold in the U.S. are not illegal
This is not remotely true. There may not be a Federal law that effectively bans import of this material, but I'm certain that sale, possession, transfer, or exhibition of this title is definitely illegal under many local obscenity statutes.
The 1st Amendment does have restrictions, for example based on safety (one cannot yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre), or prurient interest (bestiality and rape-porn are considered obscene in most communities), but it is up to the municipalities to decide how it treats these materials.
How materials such as these are handled both on a Federal, and local level, may change drastically very soon.
I'm commenting way behind the ball on this, but I haven't been able to stop thinking about this post all day....
I think the government should ban games like this on a case-by-case basis (which it would appear it already does) to avoid the whole slippery slope of a catch-all ban that would infringe on free speech.
The aspect of this that disturbs me the most is that I think if this game depicted men raping other men, there would be a much more visceral, public outrage over it (particularly from the religious right, since they hate all things gay). And I don't even know what people would think if it were women raping men, but I think there would be less shrugging off and more examining how and why this is wrong and how to put a stop to it.
I was wondering when this was gonna hit Jezebel. It's SO fucking disturbing, the details I read about the game. But seeing as how it's a simulation, I'm more disturbed by ACTUAL rape. This will not be the new GTA or something. And 64%?!? MOST Japanese women have been groped on the subway? WTF. Let's focus our energies on that.
I'm pretty sure chikan is not unique to Japan, they just happen to give a shit about prosecuting it. I mean, just look at hollabacknyc for more subway horror-stories than you can handle.
@megscissorhands: real life porn that depicts rape is understood to be such: it is two consenting adults acting something out. The virtual victim in this game has no agency or choice; the only one choosing to participate is the player/rapist.
@AuburnPonytail: Eh, I don't know where I come down on this (which is why I posted the question). Though porn depicts consensual actors, they are real people after all--the virtual character is just that, virtual.
I don't like rape porn because it romanticizes a violent act. Would it be ok to watch murder porn? (though I guess that already kinda exists in the form of Friday the 13th and other horror films).
We can't ban it, because it's already as good as banned. You can't buy it online legally, and I doubt many retailers are carrying it (if any). If someone wants it, they download it, which is already illegal.
Kind of nothing we can but be outraged. Outrage is fun, though. Not knocking outrage.
For the record, I know a guy who downloaded and played this game. I was like, "Isn't it totally disgusting and wrong?" He was like, "Uh... it's good porn... that's really all I thought about it."
@mistress of ULTRAPRISON!: Oh, really? Did he particularly enjoy the part where he got to rape the underage daughters, and feast on their "realistic" tears as they were being raped? Or was it the part where he got to invite other guys to jump in? I know, it was the part where he got to force the woman to have an abortion if she turned up pregnant!
Wow, that's some great guy you know, there! Hope you excised him from your life soon after!
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I feel confident that the screen image is simulated, though.
I'm going to crawl back into my Geek Hole now.
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Mind you, the soft could be ordered on floppy disk or CASSETE!!!
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I do remember lugging a "portable" Compaq suitcase computer home from work once. One roundtrip on the subway with 28 pounds of metal and plastic was enough for me.
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This is not remotely true. There may not be a Federal law that effectively bans import of this material, but I'm certain that sale, possession, transfer, or exhibition of this title is definitely illegal under many local obscenity statutes.
The 1st Amendment does have restrictions, for example based on safety (one cannot yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre), or prurient interest (bestiality and rape-porn are considered obscene in most communities), but it is up to the municipalities to decide how it treats these materials.
How materials such as these are handled both on a Federal, and local level, may change drastically very soon.
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I think the government should ban games like this on a case-by-case basis (which it would appear it already does) to avoid the whole slippery slope of a catch-all ban that would infringe on free speech.
The aspect of this that disturbs me the most is that I think if this game depicted men raping other men, there would be a much more visceral, public outrage over it (particularly from the religious right, since they hate all things gay). And I don't even know what people would think if it were women raping men, but I think there would be less shrugging off and more examining how and why this is wrong and how to put a stop to it.
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I don't think either should be banned.
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I don't like rape porn because it romanticizes a violent act. Would it be ok to watch murder porn? (though I guess that already kinda exists in the form of Friday the 13th and other horror films).
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Kind of nothing we can but be outraged. Outrage is fun, though. Not knocking outrage.
For the record, I know a guy who downloaded and played this game. I was like, "Isn't it totally disgusting and wrong?" He was like, "Uh... it's good porn... that's really all I thought about it."
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Wow, that's some great guy you know, there! Hope you excised him from your life soon after!