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    Image of mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    Replies no longer come up on the homepage now. Sadface.

    PC Vista Chrome #commenting
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    mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it was starred mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it was unstarred
    Image of egg cream egg cream
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    Among the many things I don't understand about how hastags work is this: sometimes people will put a hashtag in their comment all #woofunnyahashtag, and when I click on it, I get a page that tells me this: "We can't find any comments with those tags. Or check your spelling and try again. " Except obviously there is a comment with that tag. I just saw it. It's how I got here. #commenting
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    curiousgeorgiana promoted this comment egg cream was starred egg cream was unstarred
    Image of theorchidthief theorchidthief
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    So we're not getting expanded view back then? Grrr. #commenting
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    theorchidthief was starred theorchidthief was unstarred
    Image of MmSM MmSM
    10/26/09

    @theorchidthief: THIS, This is the biggest issue I have so far.

    Fix this.

    Or I will type in caps in every comment until my demands are met. #commenting
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    MmSM was starred MmSM was unstarred
    Image of theorchidthief theorchidthief
    10/26/09

    @MmSM: Exactly. This view SUCKS. I hate it. I was gone for a week and normally would miss Jez but couldn't care less. I can't read it this way all mushed together. #commenting
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    tailfeather promoted this comment theorchidthief was starred theorchidthief was unstarred
    Image of tailfeather tailfeather
    10/27/09

    @theorchidthief: Agreed. I missed a couple days and tried to catch up and while I appreciate that the pagination is back (that was a huge problem for catching up), if it's just a headline with no picture or lede, I don't click on it.

    Which is why I've only just seen this post despite scrolling over it a couple of times. This seems like a guaranteed way to descrease pageviews, which I assume is not the goal here. #commenting
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    Image of theorchidthief theorchidthief
    10/27/09

    @tailfeather: Exactly. I click on like 3 articles a day now as opposed to 90% of the articles in the old view. Oh well. Seems like a dumb move to me but it's not my company. #commenting
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    theorchidthief was starred theorchidthief was unstarred
    Image of katylalala katylalala
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    Check, check?

    I am having trouble even logging in. Anyone else?
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    hortense promoted this comment lafleur approved this comment katylalala was starred katylalala was unstarred
    Image of hortense hortense
    10/26/09

    @katylalala: Send the type of computer/browser/os you are using in, and we'll try to figure out what's going on. #commenting
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    hortense was starred hortense was unstarred
    Image of thesciencegirl thesciencegirl
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    It would make a lot of sense to have a directory or index of hashtags. Like a heck of a lot. Pretty please. #commenting
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    thesciencegirl was starred thesciencegirl was unstarred
    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    How does one search for a hashtag page that is already created but is not listed? Ex: If I want to search for comments re: nyc, which I already created, but do not want to add to right now - how would I do that? #commenting
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    futuremouse was starred futuremouse was unstarred
    Image of Plum-Pie Plum-Pie
    10/26/09

    @futuremouse: Type [jezebel.com] [or whatever tag you're looking for]/ into the address bar.
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    Edited by Plum-Pie at 10/26/09 12:48 PM Plum-Pie was starred Plum-Pie was unstarred
    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    10/26/09

    @Plum-Pie: Aha! Thanks! And I'm off to search innapropriate hashtag threads! #commenting
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    futuremouse was starred futuremouse was unstarred
    Image of Pizza!Pizza!Pizza! Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    My avatar pic keeps switching between my old one and my new one. Not great when I specifically changed it and my name after someone from real life made a comment to me about one of my posts. #commenting
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    Pizza!Pizza!Pizza! was starred Pizza!Pizza!Pizza! was unstarred
    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    10/26/09

    @Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!: Mine's been switching back and forth as well. My reasons were purely aesthetic, do I don't particularly mind it but it's still kind of annoying. #commenting
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    Zombie Ms. Skittles was starred Zombie Ms. Skittles was unstarred
    Image of JerkoftheMonth JerkoftheMonth
    10/26/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: Mine did this for maybe a week or so after I changed it before only having the new one. #commenting
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    JerkoftheMonth was starred JerkoftheMonth was unstarred
    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    10/26/09

    @JerkoftheMonth: Mine's been doing it since the 9th. #commenting
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    Zombie Ms. Skittles was starred Zombie Ms. Skittles was unstarred
    Image of femme-bot femme-bot
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    My only problems are with notifications (which aren't showing up at all anymore, which isn't a huge deal for me), and the groupthink not really working. #commenting
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    formergr promoted this comment femme-bot was starred femme-bot was unstarred
    Image of Elaken Elaken
    10/26/09

    @femme-bot: I was thinking no one was commenting on my comments because I stopped getting notifications. Then I went to my activity page, and that is where it lists all the replies I had. I had just assumed that notifications were intentionally no longer showing up on the main page. #commenting
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    Elaken was starred Elaken was unstarred
    Image of Lymed Lymed
    10/26/09

    @femme-bot: The notifications were temporarily disabled by the tech team, per Gawker. #commenting
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    Lymed was starred Lymed was unstarred
    Image of squirrelcop squirrelcop
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    Is there a limit to how many comments are made to a post? For instance, the [jezebel.com] (<--the Sat. Night Social) does not start at the very first comment thread made. I saw the first threads Sat. night, but in going back to read the next day the earliest threads do not appear.

    ETA: I just clicked "Older Threads" to get to the beginning again and now none of the replies are appearing. (Dell desktop, XP pro, latest Firefox)
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    Edited by squirrelcop at 10/26/09 12:36 PM squirrelcop was starred squirrelcop was unstarred
    Image of Pandorasvoicebox Pandorasvoicebox
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    I have not been getting any notifications. Windows Vista, Lenovo Thinkpad, Firefox 2.0. Also not working on my Dell GX280 running Windows XP Professional, Firefox 2.0.

    (I am not a starred commenter if that helps any.) #commenting
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    BabyJane promoted this comment Pandorasvoicebox was starred Pandorasvoicebox was unstarred
    Image of femme-bot femme-bot
    10/26/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: Also on firefox, no notifications. #commenting
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    BabyJane promoted this comment femme-bot was starred femme-bot was unstarred
    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    10/26/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: Same. Windows Vista, Firefox 2.0 #commenting
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    curiousgeorgiana was starred curiousgeorgiana was unstarred
    Image of HarpMadness HarpMadness
    10/26/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: Same on Mac OS 10.6, Safari. No notifications. #commenting
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    HarpMadness was starred HarpMadness was unstarred
    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    10/26/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: Windows Vista, Internet Explorer (not sure which version), no comment notifications either. #commenting
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    Cerridwen was starred Cerridwen was unstarred
    Image of Lymed Lymed
    10/26/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: According to a Gawker editor, the tech team temporarily disabled the notifications and they will get them up "as soon as possible." #commenting
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    Lymed was starred Lymed was unstarred
    Image of samarkand samarkand
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    I think I'm just resigning myself to Just Not Getting It vis-a-vis this new system. I've talked about it at io9, I guess I've kinda-sorta had it explained, but I still just don't understand the usefulness of the hashtags. Like, at all. It's not a forum, and I don't know why it keeps getting called that. As far as I can tell it's just a way to better organize comments. #commenting
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    serreca promoted this comment samarkand was starred samarkand was unstarred
    Image of serreca serreca
    10/26/09

    @samarkand: Me too. Thankfully you don't really have to understand the hashtags to still read & comment here. I just don't use that feature or really pay attention to it. #commenting
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    serreca was starred serreca was unstarred
    Image of Pandorasvoicebox Pandorasvoicebox
    10/26/09

    @serreca: I ignore the hashtags for the same reason. I just don't understand how they operate--I guess I am a very visual thinker and they confuse me because there is no central, easily visible location for them that is linked conceptually to everything else on the site. If they were more clearly integrated with all the content on the site, rather than scattered, I think I'd be able to appreciate them. I don't have a problem with them, though. Plenty of starred commenters seem to have embraced them, so they must be good for something. #commenting
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    Cerridwen promoted this comment Pandorasvoicebox was starred Pandorasvoicebox was unstarred
    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    10/26/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: One of the first things I learned when maintaining my employer's website was that you never orphan any of the site's content because it becomes useless to anyone who doesn't already know the url to access it directly.
    I don't have any problem with the hashtags, either. I just think they could be better managed and, as a result, more people would use them. #commenting
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    Cerridwen was starred Cerridwen was unstarred
    Image of Atomic Bowling Atomic Bowling
    10/26/09

    @Cerridwen: This is true. I get the hashtag system and enjoy it, but it's really difficult to guess what someone else who might be discussing something that interests you would have picked to start a thread. I'm sure this has resulted in a fair number of hashtags that have only ever been seen by their original author. I don't know that a list of pre-existing hashtags will solve this, though, as the list will get rather large. #commenting
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    Cerridwen promoted this comment Atomic Bowling was starred Atomic Bowling was unstarred
    Image of sybann sybann
    10/26/09

    @samarkand: 10,000th to pile on with a "with you on this" opinion.

    Look, KISS it: "keep it simple stupid" and I'm happy - but ain't my site so I use it the way I use it and if it gets too bad I won't. #commenting
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    sybann was starred sybann was unstarred
    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    10/26/09

    @Atomic Bowling: No, you're right. It's a pretty ineffective way of generating and managing content, in my opinion. If Gawker wanted more interactive sites, why not just create forums? Sure, they might require some more moderation but they would be so much easier to use. A quick-fix would be a directory, but that doesn't solve the problem of potentially endless permuations of the same subject being generated.

    Oh, well... #commenting
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    Cerridwen was starred Cerridwen was unstarred
    Image of JoStockton JoStockton
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    So, if Tier Two commenters can't start new conversations with hashtags, does this mean we're keeping the weekend open threads? #commenting
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    curiousgeorgiana promoted this comment JoStockton was starred JoStockton was unstarred
    Image of JoStockton JoStockton
    10/26/09

    @JoStockton: and by conversations, I mean pages... #commenting
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    spamanda promoted this comment JoStockton was starred JoStockton was unstarred
    Image of wtfox?! wtfox?!
    10/26/09

    @JoStockton: It looks like it. We've had Friday, Saturday, and Sunday OTs for a couple of weeks now, and I think Anna mentioned keeping them around in Friday's Stick a Fork in It. #commenting
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    wtfox?! was starred wtfox?! was unstarred
    Image of Miss Scarlett Miss Scarlett
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    Is there some way to know which hashtags have been created? #commenting
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    Miss Scarlett was starred Miss Scarlett was unstarred
    Image of BeckyIva BeckyIva
    10/26/09

    @Miss Scarlett is made of sugar and spice and everything nice: THAT would be brills. So, you could check to see that #TeamEdward already exists, before creating #TeamEdwardCullen (for instance). #commenting
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    curiousgeorgiana promoted this comment BeckyIva was starred BeckyIva was unstarred
    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    10/26/09

    @Miss Scarlett is made of sugar and spice and everything nice: Of all the bugs of the new system, that was the one thing I wanted addressed. I still don't understand how we are supposed to get much out of this hashtag system when we can't access a directory of all the hashtags that have been created. But I am willing to acknowledge that is probably a result of my ignorance! #commenting
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    Cerridwen was starred Cerridwen was unstarred
    Image of formergr formergr
    10/26/09

    @Cerridwen: I'm in the same boat-- without such a directory, I just don't see the point of the system, which makes me wonder if I've misunderstood its intent.

    I was kind of hoping today's post would get into that a bit more. I know this was a Gawker-wide idea, and not specific to Jezebel, but I'm just not getting it. Without a directory, BeckyIva's example above with TeamEdward and TeamEdwardCullen is exactly the concern, but multiplied exponentially. #commenting
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    formergr was starred formergr was unstarred
    Image of Plum-Pie Plum-Pie
    10/26/09

    @Miss Scarlett is made of sugar and spice and everything nice: Yep - type [jezebel.com] you're looking for]/ into the address bar. #commenting
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    Plum-Pie was starred Plum-Pie was unstarred
    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    10/26/09

    @Plum-Pie: But you have to know what you are looking for, though, right? And this is the problem I see with the system. I could create a hashtag but if no one knows it has been created, no one knows to look for it, which I think really hampers the whole "create your own content!" idea behind introducing hashtags in the first place. Some hashtags are pretty obvious, but there are infinite variations on the names one could assign to the same topic (say madmen or madwomen or madmenrecap or madmenepisode all for Mad Men, etc). Without cataloguing all the hashtags out there, many of them (the majority, probably) become useless pretty fast. #commenting
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    Cerridwen was starred Cerridwen was unstarred
    Image of Miss Scarlett Miss Scarlett
    10/26/09

    @Plum-Pie: I'm wondering though about some of the lesser known hashtags. Like if I want to discuss obsceretvshow I want other people to be able to have a directory and see other people are discussing that topic kwim? #commenting
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    Miss Scarlett was starred Miss Scarlett was unstarred
    Image of meg9 meg9
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    6. I am an unstarred commenter; why can't I create hashtag pages?
    This is part of the new system, i.e. not a bug. Unstarred commenters, however, can create new threads within already-created hashtag pages.

    So, only the starred commenters can use that hashtag function----and there really isn't any way to become a starred commenter?

    This two tier system is beginning to get a bit icky. #commenting
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    BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) promoted this comment meg9 was starred meg9 was unstarred
    Image of kristinab kristinab
    10/26/09

    @meg9: in theory the tier system is a good idea but in practice i'm also refraining from commenting pretty frequently now because

    a) i don't really understand this hashtag thing but it doesn't matter becase i can't use it anyway and
    b) there doesn't seem to be any clear way to become a starred commenter, that i know of. i had thought that if a commenter gets a majority of his/her posts promoted s/he could become starred but it doesn't seem to work that way... #commenting
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    hortense promoted this comment kristinab was starred kristinab was unstarred
    Image of samarkand samarkand
    10/26/09

    @kristinab: Seconding parts a and b. I get why there's a tiered commenting system, trolls suck and it's a way to weed them out. But after a while haven't you sort of proven you're not a troll? I don't understand what you have to do in order to get a star. #commenting
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    hortense promoted this comment samarkand was starred samarkand was unstarred
    Image of bluetrain84 bluetrain84
    10/26/09

    @samarkand: I asked on a saturday night thread a few weeks back if anybody had received a star since the new system was implemented and a bunch of people said yes. I had just gotten mine like 2 days before the new system started and then it went away during the culling. I had kind of thought that this meant I would be able to get it back fairly easily, but I think I was very wrong. In any case, it has really demotivated me to comment on posts since I know the comment will be hidden within 15 minutes if it doesn't get promoted. #commenting
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    hortense promoted this comment bluetrain84 was starred bluetrain84 was unstarred
    Image of toastandlove toastandlove
    10/26/09

    @kristinab: It used to be that once you hit 50 followers, you got a star. Once they changed the commenting system, that changed too. They also culled a lot of stars from people. The whole idea was to have fewer people with stars, not more. Now, there's no real way to get a star, as in, "If 51% of your comments are promoted" or "If you get 50/100/500 followers".

    Now, I've been commenting for several months. I don't comment every day, but fairly often. I have almost 300 friends and over 150 followers, and I don't have a star. I'd be elated if I got one, but not having one isn't gonna stop me from commenting, and from what I can tell, it doesn't really stop people from reading my comments. And anyone else not having a star doesn't stop me from reading their comments. Most of the people who read and comment frequently always have "show hidden comments" on. I see it as, you can make a good comment, and it won't get promoted. If you make a great comment, it will get promoted. And if you are a troll, you'll get disemvoweled. #commenting
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    hortense promoted this comment toastandlove was starred toastandlove was unstarred
    Image of hortense hortense
    10/26/09

    @bluetrain84: There was a glitch that took away a TON of stars during the switch over. Send me an email and I'll see what I can do. #commenting
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    hortense was starred hortense was unstarred
    Image of hortense hortense
    10/26/09

    @kristinab: It does, actually, though with the technical issues sometimes things slip through.

    @samarkind: In order to get a star, just keep posting good comments (I don't doubt that you already are). Sometimes it takes a while, especially now, as things are insane, but I try to be on the lookout as much as possible. #commenting
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    hortense was starred hortense was unstarred
    Image of formergr formergr
    10/26/09

    In reply to Extreme Makeovers: Update Edition
    I very briefly (for like 2 days) started getting notifications for both starred and unstarred replies to my comments, but then ever since maybe the middle of last week(?) I've stopped getting any reply notification at all.

    The hidden comments do appear to be working now, though, so thanks for that! #commenting
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    formergr was starred formergr was unstarred
    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    10/26/09

    @formergr: Ditto this. #commenting
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    Zombie Ms. Skittles was starred Zombie Ms. Skittles was unstarred
    Image of linnyt is a walking cliché linnyt is a walking cliché
    10/26/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: Same here. #commenting
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    Image of BabyJane BabyJane
    10/26/09

    @formergr: I thought that promotions and demotions did show up on your profile page and notifications? It did for a while, anyway.
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    BabyJane promoted this comment Edited by BabyJane at 10/26/09 12:28 PM BabyJane was starred BabyJane was unstarred
    Image of Pandorasvoicebox Pandorasvoicebox
    10/26/09

    @formergr: Not working for me. I am currently using Windows XP Professional on a Dell GX280 desktop with Firefox 2.0. It was also not working for me on my Windows Vista Lenovo Thinkpad laptop this morning on Firefox 2.0.
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    curiousgeorgiana promoted this comment Edited by Pandorasvoicebox at 10/26/09 12:28 PM Pandorasvoicebox was starred Pandorasvoicebox was unstarred
    Image of BabyJane BabyJane
    10/26/09

    @BabyJane: Update - I demoted my own comment to see what happens and it shows up on my profile page, but other than that, I'm not getting any notifications of responses, promotions or demotions. #commenting
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