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    It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs

    Is It Easier For Men To Make A Comeback?

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    Image of rowingrowingrowing rowingrowingrowing
    08/10/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    My favorite Whitney Houston song was an overtly jazzy single from the late 80's (early 90's) that for the life of me I can't remember. In the video she is sporting a retro head to toe black, beat poet capri look (which would look at home on Mad Men today) and the vocals were understated and divine. Can anybody help me?

    I should add I don't think the single did very well, sales wise, and she abandoned the stylistic approach soon thereafter.
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    Image of notheretomakefriends notheretomakefriends
    08/10/09

    @rowingrowingrowing: 'All the man I need'?
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    Image of jianna jianna
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    I love this, it's totally infectious. I think I really love the retro-ness of it. It makes me feel light and while not like a million dollar bill, at least like ten dollar bill.
    Although, it does make me wonder how long it'll be until some ladies are singing it into a hairbrush in a rom com.
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    Image of goodcheapfun goodcheapfun
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    I agree with the critique of Whitney's voice. I think her music has to change just like her voice. It is a disappointment. It's just not as crisp. She might be able to salvage her voice by changing her sound but not trying to relive the Whitney years.
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    Image of TealCuttlefish TealCuttlefish
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    I'm thrilled with the lack of Autotune. I prefer hearing a real voice. The song is OK and will probably stick in my brain from time to time, though it isn't particularly my style, it is catchy.
    I did like her younger voice, but this voice does sound more mature, and definitely has weathered aging better than I have!
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    serreca promoted this comment TealCuttlefish was starred TealCuttlefish was unstarred
    Image of bananastand bananastand
    08/09/09

    @TealCuttlefish: Gah, Autotune. If I wanted to hear robots singing, I'd go to a Teddy Ruxpin fan club meeting.
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    08/09/09

    @TealCuttlefish: word on the autotune. so damned sick of that ish.
    no one's voice is the same 20 years forward. it's impossible. i like the quasi-rasp...let's call it the sound of being road-tested.
    mmmmhmmm--roller skates...clams on the half shell, and all that.
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    Image of NewsBunny NewsBunny
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    Smoking and drinking will lower a voice.
    Remember all those old radio guys? Take Edward R. Murrow. That voice was breathtaking. But he got it from chain-smoking and drinking.
    I have a very low voice, for a woman. And I got from smoking two packs of Malboros a day. (Quit now -- for about ten years).
    When my voice started going from velvetly low to raspy -- it was a big motivation to quit.
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    Image of Cunning_Linguist Cunning_Linguist
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    Love it! I think she sounds even better now than she did in her heyday. The gritty voice suits her better and I think it's perfect for this kind of disco-y song. (Also, her hair looks better than it ever did. LOVE.)
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    Uh, not only is she older, the world is too. And frankly I never could stand the treacle she used to sing and the megapyrotechnic vocals. I like this a bunch. I can imagine it blaring out of the window of the car next to me at a stoplight on a hot summer night.
    Good start.
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    Image of Trixie from Toronto Trixie from Toronto
    08/09/09

    @SarahHeartburn: Yeah, I prefer the grittier voice.
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    08/09/09

    @SarahHeartburn: @Trixie from Toronto: Disagree per the grittier voice. I cannot celebrate the muddying of the dulcet, crystal clear perfection she sported back in the day. Yes, she would occasionally go over the top and sacrifice technique for power but MY GOD that is overlooking how absolutely incredible she was. I never liked her music at all, I don't like this song, but to deny the voice she had would be insane.
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    08/09/09

    Oops. Doubled. Don't quite know how that happened.
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    08/09/09

    @LaComtesse: Not denying the wonder of her earlier voice. I just prefer more dirt, thank you.
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    08/09/09

    @SarahHeartburn: Oh no, I gotcha. A preference is a preference--I wasn't judging, scout's honor.
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    Image of CParis CParis
    08/09/09

    @LaComtesse:
    This sounds like late 70s - early 80s Diana Ross, at a little lower pitch. Not loving it.
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    Image of electricbubbles electricbubbles
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    This is the comeback I was rooting for most, and DAMN I am happy for it. Also, she looks really good and I am doing the computer dance as I type.
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    Image of Isi Isi
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    "Impacting"? Oy.
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    Image of suck_it_monkeys suck_it_monkeys
    08/09/09

    @Isi: I couldn't get past that title either. The use of "impact" as a verb is the bane of my grammar nerd existence.
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    08/09/09

    @Isi: @suck_it_monkeys: Thank you both. My boss and I bitch about this all the time.
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    Image of Devonna Devonna
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    It's going in my mental list of celebratory jams next to "Just Fine" by Mary J. Blige. That means I like it. And now I want to know what the rest of the album sounds like.
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    Image of angelheadedhipster angelheadedhipster
    08/09/09

    @Devonna: I could put anything at any time in my mind next to "Just Fine" because it's ALWAYS THERE. Luckily, I enjoy it, but seriously, that song will never leave my skull.
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    08/09/09

    @Devonna: mary j blige was exactly who I was thinking of when i thought of whitney over time!
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    Image of MeaniePants MeaniePants
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    I'm digging it. Whitney, girl, I missed you!
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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    08/09/09

    In reply to It's Not Right, But It's Okay: Whitney's Comeback Song Has Its Ups And Downs
    I dunno. Sounds like Whitney, but not "I wanna dance with somebody" happy. But you're right. She is older, and that's what happens as you age. I hope it sells and sells.
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    02/22/09

    In reply to Is It Easier For Men To Make A Comeback?
    Ahem, Darryl Hannah.
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    Image of Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux
    02/22/09

    In reply to Is It Easier For Men To Make A Comeback?
    A lot of people have commented on the fact that it is incredibly difficult to get cast in films once your a "woman of a certain age," but I don't get it.

    I think that women are narrowing their scope by trying to hold on to their youth. And as much as the machine tries to keep them in that position, women do have a choice.

    For instance, a lot of women produce things, but it often seems to be something that is popular to their genre, for instance Drew Barrymore's production company has done a lot of romantic comedies, but she did something different from "40 Dates," and also produced Donnie Darko.

    It seems to me that women (especially powerful women) in Hollywood are marginalizing themselves by trying to "stay cute," as opposed to "being creative."

    I mean, Mary Pickford helped found United Artists in 1919! I guess my point is, why aren't women more in charge of their collective destinies? If I had Jennifer Aniston's money, I wouldn't be starring in "He's Just Not That Into You," I would be searching for the best fucking independent movie I could find. I would be searching writing websites for good scripts.

    I guess my question is...don't women have a choice as to how they stay relevant in Hollywood?
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    Image of Hana Maru Hana Maru
    02/22/09

    @Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux: But if they have to produce their own movies to get roles, doesn't that mean that it's harder for women than it is for men? Mickey Rourke and John Travolta didn't have to produce the vehicles for their comebacks.

    Also, older women have to look like young women to stay in the game. Demi Moore and Jennifer Aniston are not allowed to stop having work done and dieting and exercising like olympians. Aging men who look aged(like Jack Nicholson and George Clooney) still get cast as romantic leads.
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    Image of nora charles nora charles
    02/22/09

    @Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux: That's like saying women don't need to worry about workplace sexism because they can just become CEOs of their own companies.
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    Image of Louisa Lee Louisa Lee
    02/22/09

    @Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux: "Searching for Debra Winger" by Roseanna Arquette had some similar insights.
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    Image of Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux
    02/23/09

    @HanaMaru: "Aging men who look aged(like Jack Nicholson and George Clooney) still get cast as romantic leads."

    Yes, and women who wait to get cast alongside of them are buying into studio bullshit. Take the power you have and change the system.
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    02/23/09

    @nora charles: Thank you! You get it! Why should be deal with sexism when we can be running the company?

    (Unless you were being ironic, and saying that it's difficult for women to become the boss. In that case I disagree, we always have the capability to be "the boss.")
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    Image of Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux
    02/23/09

    @Louisa Lee: I love that documentary.
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    Image of bellejay bellejay
    02/22/09

    In reply to Is It Easier For Men To Make A Comeback?
    I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around The Wrestler being a feminist film just because the male character is being physically exploited alongside the female character...
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    Image of Hana Maru Hana Maru
    02/22/09

    @bellejay: likewise
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