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wageneli
10/16/09

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i was actually friends with kevin mcgee. this is infuriating and sickening and so awful. believe that i've complained at pcc about this atrocity of a human.
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DexterHaven
10/18/09

@wageneli: Condolences. #dailymail
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wtfox?!
10/16/09

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Yes, we know his death is unnatural and related to the gay because, as everyone knows, no married heterosexual couple has ever once, ever ever ever, engaged in a threesome or similarly nonstandard sexual activity. #dailymail
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snark_shark
10/16/09

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In Moir's defense, we all know that undiagnosed heart conditions only affect gay males (being invisible, lesbians are exempt). So if you know anyone who's had heart trouble? Clearly gay. After all, many of those conditions are conGENITAL. Need I say more? #dailymail
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kookla
10/16/09

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RIP Stephen. #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

@kookla: Aw, I feel choked up looking at that. I always had a soft spot for Boyzone, and I shed a few tears watching them read out the statement they made earlier. #dailymail
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kookla
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: As an Anglophile, I was a huge fan of the group. They were cheesy, but adorable as heck.

I also think the song is fitting considering the piece written about Gately. #dailymail
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lurkerbynature
10/16/09

@kookla: Anglophile or Hibernophile? You do realize they're Irish? #dailymail
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heykoukla
10/16/09

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There is some small comfort in the fact the comments on the Daily Mail site are so strongly anti-Moir, and have been all day.
As sad as his death is, it helps that Gately was widely considered a sweet guy, so your average Mail reader actually cares about homophobia in this case. Small steps. #dailymail
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BetteD
10/16/09

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Everything about this is appalling. But I would expect nothing less from the Daily Fail. The best part is this line, "not everyone, they say, is like George Michael."

Um, excuse me, but no ONE is like George Michael! It's not a gay thing, it's a George Fucking Michael thing. Who else would buy a brand-new Lamborghini and drive it with a suspended license stemming from a crack arrest?!? George is in a class by himself in all regards.

And in case you haven't guessed, when you bring GM into the argument, Daily Fail, it gets personal! You won't like me when I'm angry. #dailymail
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BetteD
10/16/09

@BetteD: Just to clarify, btw, I LOVE George Michael, and make no apologies for it. #dailymail
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laurasaurus
10/16/09

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Right, it's like, what a shame that he died CLEARLY doing something unspeakably shameful, and what a shame he couldn't have been a better role model as a man engaged in a homosexual relationship for all those gay youths we at the Daily Mail are so concerned over.

The man died. Leave him in peace. This isn't about his sexuality; "natural causes" doesn't mean he died because he was gay and in a relationship.

Worst, ever. #dailymail
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roadrunnerbeepbeep
10/16/09

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This satire piece is a must read

[www.dailyquail.org] #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

@roadrunnerbeepbeep: Fab. 'Ticking timebombs of fatal gay'. #dailymail
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curlymynci
10/16/09

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Plum-Pie
10/16/09

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The original headline to the piece was "Why there was nothing 'natural' about Stephen Gately's death" which you can see at the side of this picture: [www.twitpic.com]

Fucking disgusting. #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

@Plum-Pie: I actually read this piece online this morning and nearly wept, then thought there was no point even registering to post a comment on it. I was so glad to see this evening what had happened in the interim, and how that hateful cow has been forced to 'justify' herself. She makes Liz Jones look like Aung San Suu Kyi. #dailymail
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heykoukla
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: Liz Jones should send Jan Moir a thank you note tonight. #dailymail
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gherkinfiend
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: I read about 250 of the 700+ comments on the Mail and only about 5 agreed with Jan Moir which is a tiny teeny glimmer of good at least. I didn't expect the DM readers to be as tolerant...

Unless the online version is full of liberals like me who read it and pretend they don't? #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

@heykoukla: Of course there is always the chilling prospect that Liz might feel she has to up the crazy now to wrest the spotlight back..
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Plum-Pie
10/16/09

@gherkinfiend: Maybe!? Same as most Guardian commenters being so far right, they're about to fall off the edge. Hmmm. #dailymail
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heykoukla
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: True.
Liz Jones' column next week: Frankie Howerd: Also Dead, And Gay. #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

@Plum-Pie: Yeah, I felt a slight sense of irony in reading some of the approving comments on Charlie Brooker's article. Where are these outraged people any time there is a Guardian article on feminism or racism?
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Charlotte Beer
10/16/09

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Not only did she write this trash today, there was also a little side piece by her in the actual paper - I needed something to to take to the toilet with me in case there was no paper, please don't judge me and think that I actively read the thing - stating that she thought increased maternity benefits for woman are a bad thing as they will put employers off hiring women. Apparently women will get a job and then fall pregnant just to screw her employer for all the maternity benefits she can get!

She's treading a fine line between being a bitch and a c**t today. #dailymail
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gherkinfiend
10/16/09

@Charlotte Beer: I found her jump from gay-bashing (and woman-hating) to bitching about pumpkin scones in the same article really showed how callous and unpleasant she is... #dailymail
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kookla
10/16/09

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For once again, under the carapace of glittering, hedonistic celebrity, the ooze of a very different and more dangerous lifestyle has seeped out for all to see.

Couldn't this just about apply to almost any celebrity, gay or straight, involved in this sort of tragedy? The only one that comes to mind is Phil Hartman being shot in his sleep by his wife.
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EkaterinaBallerina
10/16/09

@kookla: Not even that though. His wife as it turns out had some serious, and until then somewhat hidden, drug and money problems. Maybe not his, but certainly her life unraveled after they died. #dailymail
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kookla
10/16/09

@EkaterinaBallerina: Which is my point. Moir makes it seem like Lucas' ex-husband's and Gately's deaths are some seamy underworld of drugs and orgies. And because it happened to a gay man, then it was a "strange and lonely death." When it could just as well happen in a hetero relationship.

It should be called The Daily Fail.
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EkaterinaBallerina
10/16/09

@kookla: Ahhh, my bad. Yes, completely true. I mean reading her crap about gay marriage and all I could think of was Katie Price and her over-tanned ex Peter Andre (I hate that I know who they are). That lasted long eh Moir? #dailymail
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SomeAuthorGirl
10/16/09

@EkaterinaBallerina: What a beautiful comparison you just made. #dailymail
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kookla
10/16/09

@EkaterinaBallerina: Exactly. If we started comparing crappy celebrity marriages, we'll all get typer's cramp. #dailymail
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vulcanized
10/16/09

@EkaterinaBallerina: The story is that Andy Dick reintroduced Ms. Hartman to coke after she had been clean for a while. She shot him while he was sleeping and she was high after an argument where he threatened to leave her if she didn't get sober. That is seriously one of the saddest celebrity deaths I can think of, because he had engaged in no risky behavior and was trying to get his wife back on the straight and narrow. I've never heard an unkind world about him. Philip J. Fry of Futurama was named Philip after Phil Hartman, everyone speaks with incredibly fondness for him on the Simpsons commentaries, and the NewsRadio episode "Bill Moves On", the love and the hurt is obvious.

But seriously,
River Phoenix
Marilyn Monroe
Jimi Hendrix
Kurt Cobain
Chris Farley
DJ AM
Nick Drake
Judy Garland
Mitch Hedberg
Rick James
Keith Moon
Heath Ledger
Jim Morrison
Anna Nicole Smith
Fucking ELVIS

All straight. All dead. And those are just off the top of my head. It ain't the gay. It's the celebrity, the drugs, and being surrounded by people who won't tell you "no". #dailymail
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Cerridwen
10/16/09

@vulcanized: Yet one more reason to hate Andy Dick, eh? #dailymail
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Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
10/16/09

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Yes, the dangerous lifestyle, going antiquing and walking the dogs. I'd add sewing reusable pads and nature hikes but, as usual, it seems as though women (lesbians) have been left out of the equation. #dailymail
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Haystacks
10/16/09

@HeatherNumber1: Don't you know, that separate from men, women have no discernible sexuality? #dailymail
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EkaterinaBallerina
10/16/09

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Marks & Spencer, Nestle, and Procter & Gamble have already pulled advertising from the site and publicly stated why.

I love that she has the gall to claim that all her angry detractors haven't actually read the article all the way through. What a fucking moron. Of course they have! THAT'S why they are so angry!

Also, do NOT flood their site with complaints, that's what they want. Go here instead: www.pcc.org.uk. The site has been acting up a bit with the internet flurry but that's the best place to complain. #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

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Charlie Brooker wrote a fabulous piece in the Guardian today about this, and on the back of protests advertisers such as Marks and Spencer have pulled their ads from that page. Get that right up you Moir.
[www.guardian.co.uk] #dailymail
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girlhowdy
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: "All she's doing is running a detailed celebrity-death sweepstake in her head. That's not ghoulish, that's fun. For my part, I've just put a tenner on Moir choking to death on her own bile by the year 2012. See? Fun!" I heart Charlie Brooker. #dailymail
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kookla
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: Brilliant. My favorite part was: All she's doing is running a detailed celebrity-death sweepstake in her head. That's not ghoulish, that's fun. For my part, I've just put a tenner on Moir choking to death on her own bile by the year 2012. See? Fun! #dailymail
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pond-side-over
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: "It's like gazing through a horrid little window into an awesome universe of pure blockheaded spite. Spiralling galaxies of ignorance roll majestically against a backdrop of what looks like dark prejudice, dotted hither and thither with winking stars of snide innuendo."

Charlie Brooker makes me slightly horny sometimes. #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

@pond-side-over: I do believe you are not alone in that. #dailymail
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gherkinfiend
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: @pond-side-over: The London Jezebels went to see the filming of his latest TV show. There was some heavy breathing going on between laughs... #dailymail
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rosy lee
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: Charlie is brilliant. His 'serious' articles are fantastic (that the rest are kind of goes without saying). #dailymail
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DexterHaven
10/16/09

@gherkinfiend: Awesome. I have adored him ever since reading his description years ago in Screen Burn of Pauline Fowler as resembling 'an angry yeti'. #dailymail
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gherkinfiend
10/16/09

@DexterHaven: Buy the Screen Burn book if you haven't already. It brings a (twisted) smile to my face on even the bleakest day... #dailymail
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kookla
10/16/09

@girlhowdy: My bad. Didn't see your comment before, or I would have promoted it! #dailymail
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