This suggests to me that we could be using women who look fit and healthy at all sizes to model clothes (at least in magazines) and odds are good that no one would notice and be outraged. Because you can't even tell she's bigger than the other models! #glamourplussize
I actually think that all of the women shown in this spread look slightly more "average" than stickly; more importantly, they all look HAPPY and vivid and pleasant, rather than dead, which other posts have indicated seems to be the preferred state for women in fashion these days. The women in photo #1 are stunning. I've never really been a Glamour reader, but I have to say that these photos give me a slightly more positive impression of their magazine. #glamourplussize
A size 8 is plus size? Dear God. Wasn't a size 8 the STANDARD not that long ago? What kind of sick individual needs size 0 models for their clothes to look good? And why is this pitiful lack of talent praised rather than pointed out?
Ha! Picture No. 2 proclaims, "Don't be tardy for the party!" I wonder if by plus-sized they mean plus-sized blonde weaves. If so, I approve. #glamourplussize
I hear the point. I've heard it 1000 times here. And I agree with it. The exceptionally gorgeous woman in the photographs does not look remotely "plus sized." But, the fact of the matter is that in her profession, she is. She's probably marginalized and has a hard time finding work, makes less money and can't do the same sort of jobs as her model peers because she's maybe a size 6 or 8 and not a 2. No, this isn't a giant leap forward where all of a sudden a lady mag is showing us the full spectrum of humanity - both in size and color - after one successful image of a woman with *gasp!* a very small belly. But, I'll give Glamour credit for beginning to try. They can't reset the business model overnight and no matter what, the available models are going to be gorgeous women. They're models. One way or another they won a genetic lottery because they are capable of making their living off of their looks. It's no different than athletes making a living off of a skill that otherwise has little social value (100 mph accurate fastballs is not a transferable skill). The criticism is valid, but I actually think Glamour deserves more praise. Baby steps maybe, but steps nonetheless. #glamourplussize
Okay, here's the deal. When I was 8 my nanny/2ndmom/whatever sat my chubby self down and flipped through a plus-sized catalogue with me. Unlike LB's catalogues, it was full of women of ample curve - at least sizes 12, 14, and 16 were prominent. She told me women are beautiful at all sizes, and as long as I'm healthy, I don't have to fit into small sizes. I felt empowered *then*, I felt beautiful *then*. I don't feel empowered or beautiful now, what with the models at LB modelling the smallest sizes they have and these plus sized girls frolicking around in sizes I'll never squeeze into. #glamourplussize
@dialing_footnoterphone: I used to be active on BBW forums, back when it was still alt.whatever.net. And a few women there had written letters of complaint to the Roaman's/Lane Bryant catalog people to complain about the thin models. I know I've bought "cute" things from there before that looked HORRIBLE on me because, oops, I'm not a size 8. Anyway, the women had gotten replies that basically said that their customers didn't want to see women "like that" in their catalogs. Who are these self-loathing big girls, and can I hit them, please?
**I don't know if you mean Lane Bryant the store or the catalog, which are two separate companies entirely. Just thought I'd chime in. #glamourplussize
@SaraRueful: I mean the season preview that LB sends out. Same models they have plastered all over the walls of the stores.
And yeah, I have gotten some adorable clothes there and then put them on and was like "OMG I'M A BLUE BOAT, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN!?" and realise, the model in the shot? Probably wearing LB's version of a sample size. Le sigh. #glamourplussize
I mean, I think it counts in that a diversification of sizes should ALSO include women like Amy Lemons. But if Glamour is serious about a commitment to diverse body types, it's not enough by itself. #glamourplussize
No, it doesn't count, sorry, try again later. Like one size makes that much of a difference. It might for the people actually making the clothes, but I can't visually tell the difference between a size 6 and a size 8, so to me, it makes none. I hate this fake plus sized revolution anyway, like shifting the superficial parameters by which women's value is measured to include an ever so slightly bigger amount of women into the realm of acceptability is going to make any difference for most of us.
a plus size model should wear a plus size, which averages to be dress size 12-14 and up. when designers realize that plus size women want actual design and style, not a curtain or caftan with a bow sewed on it, perhaps this will change, but in the designers eye, a size 8 might as well be wearing a size 18, and that's the problem.
there are designers that are trying to change things and make clothes, but really all anyone wants is to find something cool and flattering that's advertised in mainstream media in their size. that's all. it's not hard, but the industry makes it an epic saga. #glamourplussize
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Maths. Ur dooin it wrong.
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Hell, Michelle's gorgeously fabulous arms are probably bigger than the thighs of most of the average size 00 models! #glamourplussize
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DIAF industry #glamourplussize
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FYou, Glamour. #glamourplussize
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...you're reaching, Glamour. You're really reaching. #glamourplussize
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**I don't know if you mean Lane Bryant the store or the catalog, which are two separate companies entirely. Just thought I'd chime in. #glamourplussize
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And yeah, I have gotten some adorable clothes there and then put them on and was like "OMG I'M A BLUE BOAT, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN!?" and realise, the model in the shot? Probably wearing LB's version of a sample size. Le sigh. #glamourplussize
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there are designers that are trying to change things and make clothes, but really all anyone wants is to find something cool and flattering that's advertised in mainstream media in their size. that's all. it's not hard, but the industry makes it an epic saga. #glamourplussize