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TheUptightMidwesterner
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
Before I clicked through the link I thought the hat was made out of cigs and was all "AWESOME"!.

But, now that I know that is not the case, well- it is just so wrong.
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token_illiterate_commenter
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
The ad may be crap but at least the cigs are safe. They're filtered!
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femme-bot
11/18/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: Just remember, L.S./M.F.T!
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LaComtesse
11/18/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: It's like smoking a vitamin.
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Lymed
11/18/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: I also hear they're toasted!
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midwestdesigner
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
This ad was so obviously post-Sal.
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Lymed
11/18/09

@midwestdesigner: As horrific as it is, they are at least trying to do something interest with the shape of her hair and the shape of the bite hole.
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rodmanstreet
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
No, you're right, it's obviously not Don's work.

The tagline is Peggy's, you can thank Sal for the model's fierce smize, and the ad was sold to Lucky Strike by Pete Campbell over a deli lunch served by his wife, Trudie, Patron Saint of Awesome Hats.
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LaComtesse
11/18/09

@rodmanstreet: Kinsey, not Peggy. A tagline of Peggy's would have more finesse.
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jigglyball
11/18/09

@rodmanstreet: Eh, I think that the cheesy graphics are direct result of losing Sal.

But I agree that this has Pete Campbell written all over it. "You know, Mr. Cooper, the Oriental* market is full of untapped potential."

* Not a descriptor I would use, but I'm fairly certain ol' Petey would.
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Mary McCarthyite
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
Consider the political implications of this, as this ad was probably created during the Vietnam War. (Since starvation was a rampant problem for the Vietnamese, the "eat my hat" statement is particularly "clever.")
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rodmanstreet
11/18/09

@Mary McCarthyite: Oh snap. I can always count on you to bring the historical perspective. Every month, when I make a payment on the college loans with which I payed for my history degree, I'll think of you and weep.
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Mary McCarthyite
11/18/09

@rodmanstreet: Well, my friend, we will weep together because I am paying oodles for the same degree.

(This just reminded me that said loans have put me in the red this month; I may very well be eating my own hat for dinner!)
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bluetrain84
11/18/09

@Mary McCarthyite: Think of it this way: us history nerds are always the best at Jeopardy.
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BitingThrough
11/18/09

@Mary McCarthyite: I know, I know, pedants should be beaten, but I can't help myself. I believe that filtered Lucky Strikes were introduced about 1964-65, and from the style of the ad I would say this dates no later than 1967-68 (this is pure gut feel, that and I used to be a graphic arts/advertising geek when I was a teenager).
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Mary McCarthyite
11/18/09

@BitingThrough: So...still during Vietnam!

@bluetrain84: I knew some good would come out of it!
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
Lucky Strike show you plenty! Love you long time! Ching chong ching ching!
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CurtCole
11/18/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): I know, this ad is so racist. I'm surprised they don't have her lighting a cigarette from the static electricity that she generated running up a wall.
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midwestdesigner
11/18/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): It's spans so many stereotypes, it hurts my head. Modern Asian woman hair, old-school kimono, "laborer" hat.

That'd be like having Twiggy all dolled up mod make-up, while wearing a Victorian dress and sporting a straw farmer's hat. Does not compute!
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LaComtesse
11/18/09

@midwestdesigner: There's no kimono in this shot. And her haircut is typical of the era.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
11/18/09

@LaComtesse: The Mandarin collar is what she means, I think. Hair and makeup are very typical, true.
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midwestdesigner
11/18/09

@LaComtesse: By "modern" I meant modern for the time of the ad (hence the '60s tilt in the Twiggy comparison).

And if an Asian woman wearing a mandarin collar in the '60s isn't a kimono, I'll eat my hat.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
11/18/09

@midwestdesigner: Pet peeve time: Not all Asian clothes are called "kimono" and that collar is not typical of a kimono. It's typical of a cheongsam/qipao.
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midwestdesigner
11/18/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Consider my hat eaten.
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Schrodinger's Cat
11/18/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): Lucky Strike is disrespectful to tar! Can you see I am serious! Get out of my way, all of you! This is no place for loafers. Join me or die. Can you do any less?
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LaComtesse
11/18/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): @midwestdesigner: Kimonos don't have mandarin collars, though. Mandarin collared top plus sunhat was fairly typical in many places in Asia, so I don't think the way she's styled is in and of itself offensive. The issue, if there is one, is using typically Asian imagery to sell something, depending on the viewer having preconceived notions of "The Orient" and Asians. However, though the model is styled prettily in traditional clothing, the copy has nothingto do with Asia or Asians. I'm thinking this ad, not so terrible. (Unless you take it to where Mary McCarthyite did above, which could be valid, but I don't know enough about when this ad came out to confirm or deny that: I'd need more context.)
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LaComtesse
11/18/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Beat me to it. Thank you.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
11/18/09

@LaComtesse: Yes, I know kimonos don't have Mandarin collars - I was correcting, badly I guess...
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
11/18/09

@midwestdesigner: Heh! Sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine. When the original The Sims 2 game shipped, it came with a qipao and a hanbock as in game clothing. I got so freaking sick of correcting people that none of the above were actually "kimono" OR of Japanese origin OR something you could dress your Geisha Sim up in.
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JessickerFletcher
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
I'm sure milliners throughout the world were just thrilled about this ad.
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femme-bot
11/18/09

In reply to This Was Not The Work Of Don Draper.
To be honest, her hat does look tasty. Or I just really need lunch.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
10/15/09

In reply to Skunk Whisperer Saves The Day • Men Are Gross And Don't Wash Their Hands
A "skunk whisperer"?! So where was this dude a month ago when both our greyhounds were skunked at 10 pm on a Wednesday night. On our patio next to the house, where we had ALL the windows open in our back room.

I can attest to the power of the home-made peroxide/baking soda/liquid soap de-skunker for dogs. I also found that extra-strength Febreeze works wonders on skunked furniture, blinds and carpets but you need to apply and let dry at least twice.

If I ever catch that little fucker I'm gonna stick it's ass in a peanut butter jar.
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Scout
10/15/09

@Gretchen is a new kitten mom!: skunks only spray when they feel seriously threatened so perhaps your dogs deserved it. *ahem*

I'm a skunk lover - they are awesome creatures. #animals
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Pantra
10/15/09

@Scout: We used to have skunks come in our garage to eat cat food and I found them so enchanting. If we got too close, they did a little stomp with their back paws as a warning to back off. #animals
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
10/15/09

@Scout: Our greys will rush at the 'kitty' to check it out, but have never killed anything. They live with 9 cats so anything similar looks like kitty to them. We have a possum that hangs around too and he just plays dead until they go away.

I just wish the stinker would have waited a couple of seconds before cutting loose, however I also know survival instincts are only good if they kick in right away. That still doesn't stop me from cursing that fuzzy for giving me enough clean-up work to cut my sleep down to 3 hours. #animals
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Scout
10/16/09

@Pantra: oh! I love the stomping part it is so friggen...well, cute but also, i heed the warning.

PBS had a great documentary (you may have seen it) with so much stomping I was in frequents fits of giggling. #animals
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Scout
10/16/09

@Gretchen is a new kitten mom!: oh absolutely....i'm sure it was a pain in the ass << he he ; ) #animals
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ManofReason
10/15/09

In reply to Skunk Whisperer Saves The Day • Men Are Gross And Don't Wash Their Hands
I had a coworker tell me to go fuck myself when I told him to please wash his hands as I saw him leave the urinal without washing first. Afterwards I made sure to never touch him again and disinfect everything he touched right in front of him. Then after I told other coworkers why I was doing that, they made sure never to touch him either. One dick move deserves another. #animals
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Ailatan
10/15/09

@ManofReason: what a jerk! cough inside his cup whenever possible. #animals
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J.D.Regent
10/15/09

Isn't urine sterile though? It's not like feces or spit.
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NellMood
10/15/09

@J.D.Regent: I think your urine is sterile for you, but not for other people. #animals
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J.D.Regent
10/15/09

@NellMood: really? how could that possibly work? #animals
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NellMood
10/15/09

@J.D.Regent: Yeah, I was wrong. This is why I'm a historian and not a doctor. I just checked and read something about it being sterile, but then picks up bacteria on the way out, but I don't know...
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SBJ
10/15/09

@ManofReason: I really want to just smile bitchily and say, "I'd shake your hand, but statistically speaking it would be kind of like shaking your penis and also I'm a lesbian, so...no thanks!" whenever a work colleague offers a handshake from now on.

That's a lie. I've always felt that way. But still. Renewed vitriol and whatnot. #animals
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veronykah
10/15/09

@J.D.Regent: I never thought it was about the urine, I thought it was about what else you were touching while going to the loo.
As a female the always handwashing thing is kind of stupid, I touch toilet paper and that's it. But from what I gather a guy must handle the johnson in order to pee. Therefore, should wash his hands. #animals
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veronykah
10/15/09

@SBJ: Putting the idea of shaking a guys penis into his head is probably a bad idea anyway. Most men I know would see that as a good thing. #animals
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Little Time Bomb
10/15/09

@J.D.Regent: Urine is sterile until it's exit from the body. As it exits it picks up bacteria and other contamination from the outside of your orifices. Then drops of it transfer on to your skin. Once urine is exposed to oxygen outside the body bacterial growth is rapid. #animals
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Little Time Bomb
10/15/09

@NellMood: You're mostly right. Urine, like blood, is sterile while in the body unless you have some serious medical issues. Once out of your body though it is no longer sterile and bacteria growth is rapid. If you have it on your hands, unless you put them to your eyes, open wounds, or mouth you are not likely to expose yourself. #animals
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Little Time Bomb
10/15/09

@veronykah: It's about urine too, it picks up bacteria on it's exit from you. Toilet paper is not a liquid proof barrier, and I can assure you, amounts of urine are deposited on to your hands when you wipe or shake. #animals
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Little Time Bomb
10/15/09

@everyone in this thread. It's important to remember that hand washing in the bathroom isn't just about removing urine and feces from your use of the bathroom. In any bathroom you are likely to come into contact with microscopic amounts of other people's leftover excretions those also transfer onto your hands. Also regular hand washing with a NON-antibacterial soap is proven way to help slow the spread of disease. If you come into contact with bacteria and virus agents in a non-bathroom setting (door handles, phones, copiers, tabletops ect.) and you're a regular hand washer you are much less likely infect yourself.
Sorry for the long and multiple posts, but I love micro biology! #animals
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Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.
10/15/09

In reply to Skunk Whisperer Saves The Day • Men Are Gross And Don't Wash Their Hands
I just spent a minute or so pushing the little play button on the skunk video before I realized it was just a picture of a video player. Given my skills in basic functions like this, I would say that I am as likely as the skunk to some day have a life-threatening run-in with a peanut butter jar. #animals
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LucilleMcGillicuddy
10/15/09

@Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.: I did the same thing! #animals
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kityglitr
10/15/09

@LucilleMcGillicuddy: D3itto. Also hav3ing we3i4rd ke6yboa4rd t4roubles. Honestl6y. #animals
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LucilleMcGillicuddy
10/15/09

@kityglitr: Oh, I am the Queen of Keyboard
Problems. Every once in a while I break through the margin and go off into nowhere. I have had all sorts of
official correspondence with Hortense.
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spamanda
10/15/09

In reply to Skunk Whisperer Saves The Day • Men Are Gross And Don't Wash Their Hands
The woman in Arizona already had a successful VBAC. Her cesarean birth was TWO pregnancies ago. She was even threatened with a court order if she refused another cesarean -- even though her body obviously had no problems delivering vaginally the last time.
Seriously, this is just one more reproductive rights story. It's appalling to me that we'd force women into unnecessary surgery. #animals
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chinaplate
10/15/09

@spamanda: But perhaps necessary in terms of legislation to prevent deaths in other cases? I mean, most protocols are there for a reason. #animals
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boobookitt
10/15/09

@chinaplate: most medical protocols are in place to protect against litigation - no matter how theoretical the risk. Obstetrics is the highest malpractice risk so there's a lot of CYA- ing going on.

I'm not judging, btw. I've been known to jack up healthcare costs by ordering completely unneccesary tests for CYA* purposes myself.

*cover your ass #animals
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spamanda
10/15/09

@chinaplate: the risk of uterine abruption in VBACs is less than 1%. Since she's already had a successful 0VBAC (at this same hospital, go figure, it really shouldn't be an issue.
Even ACOG says this particular hospital isn't following the protocal correctly. most likely it's an insurance thing -- that's the reason many doctors and hospital no longer do VBACs. Because insurance doesn't want them to perform them. Well, it DOES make more money for the hospital when they cut you open. #animals
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IBleedGlitter: The High Priestess of Tinsel
10/15/09

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Good job PUMA, hate on Obama for not being pro-woman enough but praise the Republicans for promoting a woman who is pretty much anti-woman. That totally makes sense. #animals
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Triana Orpheus
10/15/09

@IBleedGlitter: The High Priestess of Tinsel: But don't you understand! She has a vagina and therefore is pro-woman! That the woman she is pro happens to be herself does not matter, the vagina wins! #animals
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Ailatan
10/15/09

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"A Missouri ninth-grader has been arrested for making a website that called a classmate a "slut" and said she "would be better off if she just died." Missouri is cracking down on cyber-bullying after Megan Meier's suicide"

arrested? I know there should be some sort of reprimand, but arrest seems too tough, this is still a child.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
10/15/09

@Ailatan: A child that is old enough to wish suicide on her class mate. Sorry but I would much rather have a 9th grader spend the night in jail than have a different 9th grader commit suicide.
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Edited by Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny. at 10/15/09 6:05 PM

elliebean
10/15/09

@Ailatan: I think maybe the charge and punishment will be more telling than the arrest itself. Probably, the state is trying to show that they are dead serious, we don't fuck with people's lives. I don't know if this 9th grader understands the effect it has on the other person, but the effect on the other person would be serious, and it would be real. (I'm thinking: the potential emotional consequences of a fine or a sentence are less than the consequences of the other child trying to, or actually committing suicide, or being mentally tortured in some way) #animals
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Scout
10/15/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: and aren't you 14/15 in 9th grade....should kinda know better at that age. #animals
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andBegorrah
10/15/09

In reply to Skunk Whisperer Saves The Day • Men Are Gross And Don't Wash Their Hands
Why would anyone deny a skunk the glory of death by peanut butter? #animals
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