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t-yo3
07/24/09

In reply to Desperate Times...
I read the Daily Mail article and I'm confused as to what exactly this is supposed to achieve.

I don't think that baptising illegitimate children is uncommon in the Anglican church (I know plenty of Anglican bastards, including myself, who were baptised), so I don't see how this two-for-one deal does anything new to "effectively giv[e] its blessing to living in sin", as the Daily Mail puts it.

Is it supposed to be an incentive to get people married as in, "Yeah, we'll only baptise your kids if you get married"? Or is it supposed to be an incentive to get people baptising their kids (and thus, in theory, encouraging the growth of the Church) as in, "We'll only marry you if you get your bastard kids baptised"?

I don't think either one applies, because I don't think the Anglican church in the UK is especially hard-line on issues like that. And this is the sort of thing that people could arrange with their priest anyway (Eric Clapton did it, years ago, to cite one famous example), it doesn't need a special programme to make it happen. The whole thing just seems silly and pointless. I don't see the purpose.
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Brigit
07/24/09

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My dad married his wife on their daughter's christening. It was rather odd for my sheltered teen perception.
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arodriguez.romero
07/24/09

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yep I did this. I baptized my daughter and got married in the RC Church at the same time to please my mother. And ... it is one of my bigger regrets in life
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
07/24/09

@arodriguez.romero: Do you regret combining them, or doing them at all?
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arodriguez.romero
07/24/09

@Grim Reaper of the Forest: doing them at all. I was already married by a civil ceremony, but did both the religious ones to please ma. That's a bad reason to do anything
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Skellatrix
07/24/09

In reply to Desperate Times...
And then the courts will offer a "hate and mate" deal where you can get divorced and married in one sitting.
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Maritsa
07/24/09

In reply to Desperate Times...
Maybe if this couple had been married, their son wouldn't be a vampire. Oh sure, you'll look at the picture again and think he's just "missing teeth" because he's a "child." No. He's a day-walking vampire who sucks the blood of the innocent, all because his parents procreated out of wedlock. For shame, hippie mom and nattily-dressed dad. For shame.
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emilyanne
07/24/09

@Maritsa: ahahahahaha - thank you, that really truly made my morning. Bad bad parents, they will regret it when he eats their other offspring one dark night.
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Maritsa
07/24/09

@emilyanne: Plus you know they let him get away with everything because he's a Precious First Born.
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BearDownCBears
07/24/09

@Maritsa: Breastfeeding must have been fun.
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emilyanne
07/24/09

@Maritsa: oh absolutely, that's why the little girl is cowering. The parents think it's sweet but she's thinking 'nooooo not only am i am an after-thought doomed to being cut out of family photos and ignored for long stretches of my teenage years but now I've got to learn how to defend myself from brother vampire as well, oh the sparkles, the sparkles."
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Maritsa
07/24/09

@BearDownCBears: Oh, are you kidding? Whorish out-of-wedlock moms don't breastfeed, they go straight to Coke and hot dogs.
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BearDownCBears
07/24/09

@Maritsa: Wait, so if what you say is true, and my binky was a Ballpark frank lodged in a Fanta can, that means my mom--

Oh. God damn it.
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colormeroutine
07/24/09

@Maritsa: but, he's not a ginger. Therefor he must have a soul.
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Maritsa
07/24/09

@colormeroutine: Sigh. *Obviously* his parents died his hair so he could pass. You're so naive - I bet you think Obama was born in the U.S.!
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hellosunshine
07/24/09

@Maritsa: He can't be a vampire - he's not sparkly.
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BearDownCBears
07/24/09

In reply to Desperate Times...
And for an extra quid you can have you kids' oil changed and have them waxed and buffed.
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wtfox?!
07/24/09

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Question: is there a coupon, and does it expire? Also, can I only use it once?
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KathrynwithaY loves Joan Collins
07/24/09

In reply to Desperate Times...
All right. Who doesn't love a good 2-for-1 deal??

On that note, I'm gonna start advertising my "Hatch, Match, Patch" deal. Only this one includes free marital counseling if need be.
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thegogglesdonothing
07/24/09

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Church of England is nothing if not accommodating. Just ask Henry VIII!
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cate3710
07/24/09

@thegogglesdonothing: Or Eddie Izzard.
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J.D.Regent
07/24/09

@thegogglesdonothing: amen!
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curiousgeorgiana
07/24/09

@cate3710: I think you mean the Psychotic Bastard Religion.
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cuteasabutton
07/24/09

@thegogglesdonothing:
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Ailatan
07/24/09

In reply to Desperate Times...
Even the Catholic Church bapitises children of single parents.
This seems like a good plan, and nice way to have a celebration for the whole family.
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emilyanne
07/24/09

@Ailatan: indeed - the Catholic Church proved more accomodating than The London Times newspaper when my goddaughter was born. They had no problem with baptising her while The Times refused to announce her birth as back then they didn't carry the birth announcements of 'illegitimate children'. Yes, really. This was 15 years ago, I think they do now.
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curiousgeorgiana
07/24/09

@emilyanne: Did you even have electricity 15 years ago?
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Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
07/24/09

@Ailatan: Yeah, this is not uncommon. I went to a ceremony recently where the bride was baptized, confirmed, had her First Communion, and got married, all at the same Mass. (Their child was already baptized and had already had her First Communion.)
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emilyanne
07/24/09

@curiousgeorgiana: ha i sometimes do wonder you know. Strictly speaking we didn't 30 years ago but that was because the country was on strike rather than because we'd retreated into caves to rediscover fire...maybe.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
07/24/09

In reply to Desperate Times...
Hatch? Wow, they really do things differently in Europe.
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wtfox?!
07/24/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: Ain't them Frenchies called "frogs" for a reason?
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samethingwedoeverynightpinky
07/24/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: Under socialized medicine, we will all be required to hatch our babies. Obama is building giant nests out of phony birth certificates as we speak.
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alwaysapropos
07/24/09

@samethingwedoeverynightpinky: That's a lie propagated by the liberal media. Under socialized medicine, there will be no babies, because we will all be forced to have abortions. In other words, they will make the nests and then crush all the little human eggs with a sledgehammer. Then, they will make a giant omelet and use it to feed the poor.
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VanDessa
07/10/09

In reply to The Opposite Of TGIF
So, what is most disturbing is the packed house. I confess sometimes I wish I could feel this elated about anything besides pizza. But only sometimes.

One day anthropologists will look back at footage such as this and ask "WTF was going on in that century?"
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queenieinmanhattan
07/10/09

@VanDessa: Salem Witch Trials? First and Second Great Awakenings? None of this charismatic stuff is new, not in the slightest. But, yes - I agree. It's fascinating stuff, anthropologically speaking.
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shorty63136
07/10/09

In reply to The Opposite Of TGIF
It's an exercise in joy from the Holy Spirit. Seen it quite a few times in my own church. It's got a good chunk edited out so it's hard to see what was being talked about initially.
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LawFairy
07/10/09

In reply to The Opposite Of TGIF
It's the power of the Holy Spirit! Can't you feel it??!

(No, seriously. These people actually believe that they are being filled with the Holy Spirit and that's why they act this way. Sadly, I have seen this in person).
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funnyface
07/10/09

In reply to The Opposite Of TGIF
It's a Charismatic (like Pentecostal, Assemblies of God) thing. Sorta like being "slain in the spirit" aka falling down at a Benny Hinn event, or speaking in tongues-- they see the uncontrollable laughter as a sign of the Holy Spirit taking them over and giving them joy. (Though I grew up Presbyterian, and we don't go in for these shenanigans.)
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