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    How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?

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    Image of Princess Leela Princess Leela
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    The article doesn't actually quote her as saying their undesirable style of walking was BECAUSE of their weight/size. I suppose that's the obvious connection for us all to make, but it doesn't actually say that.
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    Image of Penny Penny
    09/22/09

    @Princess Leela: If they were bad walkers it probably had more to do with the fact that they are editorial models because no one ever casts runway models that size.
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    Image of Princess Leela Princess Leela
    09/22/09

    @Penny: True ... it all circles back to the same problem. I just like accuracy, though.
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    09/22/09

    @Penny: Elena Miró does, and has for years. I'm confused that people seem to think this is such a novelty. Perhaps it's the contrast -- all the models in a Miró show are size 6, 8, 10, but none of them are 0,2, 4.
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    Edited by Rooo sez BISH PLZ at 09/22/09 2:33 PM Rooo sez BISH PLZ was starred Rooo sez BISH PLZ was unstarred
    Image of ShrilataMover ShrilataMover
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    Seriously, for most of you who do not work in fashion or with models. THE WALKING is important, and it is a lot harder than it looks. Are any of you familiar with Erika Kurihara's work? She has always styled all sizes, ethnicities, and ages in her editorial work when it wasn't popular to do this. And judging from what I have seen, the plus sized models in Mark Fast's show, had crappy walks. Also, before you Jezebels get all happy about this casting: Mark didn't use a single "Black" model. Wanessa is Brazilian of mixed heritage, and Rachel Rutt is half White and Asian...The plus-size casting decision was obviously for novelty.
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    Penny promoted this comment ShrilataMover was starred ShrilataMover was unstarred
    Image of Penny Penny
    09/22/09

    @ShrilataMover: I'm not overly excited about this casting. However....yes, walking is important, the point is that why would a model 4 sizes smaller necessarily be able to walk any better? This is Mark Fast, it's not like he had the industry's top walkers.
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    09/22/09

    @ShrilataMover: Also, I have no idea why you put Black in quotes. Are Black people allegedly Black?
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    Image of gherkinfiend gherkinfiend
    09/22/09

    @Penny: These models likely weren't booked at the last minute, so why wasn't there the chance to give them some extra practice at walking?

    It seems odd that the stylist was more concerned about this and not the ill fitting underwear...
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    Image of Nariel Nariel
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    I know what the stylist is talking about. Us fatties waddle around like pregnant bowlegged penguins, pausing every few steps to catch our breath. It's an ordeal just to haul ass out of bed and waddle to the refrigerator. God knows what I'd look like, hauling my fat ass down the runway. I'd probably have someone following behind me with a chair and a Big Gulp so I could rest and drink every 15 feet. Thank the lord someone's brave and smart enough to break their silence on this topic. Where would we be without her?
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    Image of willwriteforfood willwriteforfood
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    The photo of the Fast model above is much better than the one that ran yesterday, in which the dress looked incredibly ill-fitting and uncomfortable. It looked like it was cutting into her skin in some places. I wrote that off to bad lighting or bad camera work.

    But in the above photo, I see how the dress is supposed to fit. It (and she) looks pretty damn hot. I only wish I could pull off a look like that. Good for Fast.
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    Image of GirlFailer GirlFailer
    09/22/09

    @willwriteforfood: I think the fit was so bad because the stylist had apparently given the ladies ill-fitting undergarments. If you look at the gallery it wasn't the dresses so much as the underwear. I think the stylist was being spiteful and gave them too -small underwear. No matter what your size, if your panties don't fit, you will look uncomfortable.
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    Edited by GirlFailer at 09/22/09 12:05 PM GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred
    Image of willwriteforfood willwriteforfood
    09/22/09

    @GirlFailer: I went back to look at the photo and you're right, you can see her bra and panties cutting into her body. If that was done on purpose, then that's just evil.

    WTF is a stylist doing commenting on the models' walk or build, anyway? I would think a stylist of any talent can work with the people and clothing they're given without crabbing about it. I doubt a designer pays a stylist to mouth off about his choice of clothing or employee.
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    09/22/09

    @GirlFailer: Well said.
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    Image of LeCauchemar LeCauchemar
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    The DeBeers spokesman continued, "We told the miners to turn off the faucet while they brush their teeth and asked the warlords to recycle bullets."
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    Image of thelastsara thelastsara
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    Sometimes it's really hard for me to remember that Tim Gunn isn't my real-life friend.
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    schlegs84 thinks John Galt can suck it. promoted this comment thelastsara was starred thelastsara was unstarred
    Image of Penny Penny
    09/22/09

    @thelastsara: Speaking of, I just sent this to my boss and our buyers in response to a whiny email from our store staff.....you gots to click on it for the full effect.
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    Edited by Penny at 09/22/09 11:49 AM Penny was starred Penny was unstarred
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    09/22/09


    @Penny:
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    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    I sympathize with that stylist. Sometimes my belly fat reaches up and smacks me in the face when I walk. This would be awkward on the runway.
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    Image of Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny. Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    Really, when you think about it, having "plus" size models walk your show is rather business savvy. They are absolutely right when they say that, because of the size of the models usually walking in shows, women believe only thin women can wear the clothes and look good. Some designers love the exclusivity of that. Other designers see how limiting it is to their bottom line and think otherwise. Capitalism FTW!
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    Image of PinkSoxHat PinkSoxHat
    09/22/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: This was a genius move, and only keeps looking better. One, non size -0 see that they might actually be able to wear these clothes. Two, it would have gotten press regardless of this situation, because a designer used someone out of the norm. Three, he comes out smelling like roses and is getting even more press for it because of the reaction.
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    Image of lalaland13 lalaland13
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    "The kept tripping over the burritos and waffle fries strewn about the runway, and I was concerned for their health," Kurihara explained. "I told them to think happy yogurt thoughts, but they refused."

    I shall now dream of runways filled with waffle fries.
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    Image of wtfox?! wtfox?!
    09/22/09

    @lalaland13: This sounds like heaven to me. Where is this marvelous place, where the streets are paved with burritos and waffle fries?
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    Image of Penny Penny
    09/22/09

    @lalaland13: Personally I think the bacon made the runway a bit slippery.

    Hmmmmmmmbaaaacon.....
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    Image of rednrowdy rednrowdy
    09/22/09

    @lalaland13: ooh, could it be a combination of chick-fil-a waffle fries and arby's seasoned curly fries?

    mmmmmmmm. friiiiiiiiiies.
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    Image of SevenNationArmy has truth tourettes SevenNationArmy has truth tourettes
    09/22/09

    @lalaland13: Mmmm Chick-fil-A waffle fries FTW!
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    Image of lalaland13 lalaland13
    09/22/09

    @wtfox?!: Sadly, for now it only exists in my hungry head. Good thing lunch is coming up.

    There is also a waterfall. Made of soft-serve ice cream.
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    Image of Penny Penny
    09/22/09

    In reply to How Long Until Fat-Hating Fashion Stylist Invokes "But I Love Beth Ditto" Defense?
    Pft, fat people don't walk. They waddle.
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    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    09/22/09

    @Penny: Unless there's a special at McDonalds, then we run. But absolutely nothing in between.
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    wtfox?! promoted this comment Edited by futuremouse at 09/22/09 11:40 AM futuremouse was starred futuremouse was unstarred
    Image of boobookitt boobookitt
    09/22/09

    @Penny: no. they ride Rascals.
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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    09/18/09

    In reply to Emma Conjures Clothes, Versace Tweets, Jackass Kickboxes
    Wow. I wanna work for the Gap. Cause I can dream up ideas for clothes while I sleep.
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    Image of rednrowdy rednrowdy
    09/18/09

    In reply to Emma Conjures Clothes, Versace Tweets, Jackass Kickboxes
    why does that picture of emma watson frighten me? she is a lovely young lady but that photo is so odd.
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    Image of sydbarrettsaves, emissary of hell sydbarrettsaves, emissary of hell
    09/18/09

    @rednrowdy: No one can look perfect all the time.
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    Image of rednrowdy rednrowdy
    09/18/09

    @sydbarrettsaves, emissary of hell: but that's the thing. she looks absolutely lovely - it's the angle that freaks me out.
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    Image of lilbobbytables lilbobbytables
    09/18/09

    In reply to Emma Conjures Clothes, Versace Tweets, Jackass Kickboxes
    Ok. Gaultier and Target is going to either be the BEST THING EVAR or the stuff of my most terrifying nightmares.
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    Image of Penny Penny
    09/18/09

    In reply to Emma Conjures Clothes, Versace Tweets, Jackass Kickboxes
    I continue to be dumbfounded by Leigh Lezark. Especially when I saw her in ads for....Tod's, was it? Not Tod's. Some preppy luxury brand, it was weird.
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    Image of LaFemme LaFemme
    09/18/09

    In reply to Emma Conjures Clothes, Versace Tweets, Jackass Kickboxes
    I don't care for all of these fashion lines that are supposed to help people or the environment. (Ha, that makes me sound terrible.)When you look at them closely they always seem to either donate a negligable amount of money, or are multi-million dollar ventures that provide work for 15 people, who will make 6 dollars a day instead of 3. They also always seem to be short on design or, as with the environmentally conscious ones, just super boring (a whole collection of beige natural linen anyone? 250 dollars a piece, please.)

    I always wonder about say, racks and racks of EDUN merchandise marked down from 300 dollars to 10; is it even worth producing this collection so it can end up on a big rack at Filenes? Is it really generating a profit?
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    Image of lilbobbytables lilbobbytables
    09/18/09

    @LaFemme: That is my complaint as well. I cannot afford expensive clothing, no matter how much I drool, and it can be tricksy to buy ethically and inexpensively. That is why I either want to a) make more of my own clothing, or b) bring back fig leaves.
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    Image of Penny Penny
    09/18/09

    @LaFemme: They do donate a paltry amount, that's why I generally ignore them or any "product" meant to benefit an organization. Unless it's those cute UNICEF Christmas cards.
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