Jane Goodall is an amazing scientist who shows that one doesn't needs to test on animals or eat them to work or live. She is a constant inspiration in my life and I credit her for planting the seed of empathy in me.
Her answer to the question below gave me a little more hope. Thank you Jane!
Q-Do you think there is still hope for this planet despite all the bad things we have done to our environment?
A-When I was doing the research for this book, I met so many extraordinary people who rescued species from the brink of extinction when everybody else laughed at them. One example is the California condor. At one time, there were just 12 of these birds left in the wild and one in captivity. Now there are 300. This bird would have gone but for a small group of people who would not give up. As long as we have people like that, there's hope for the future.
I think empathy would help in just about every aspect of society. There wouldn't be debates about universal healthcare, gay marriage, equal pay for the sexes or reproductive rights if more people were capable of recognizing that what makes others different isn't wrong, it's just different.
@CurtCole: I wanted to put on my fake-hysterical conservative evangelical voice and shriek some incoherent reply... but I'm tired and kind of sad today, so I will simply agree and Internet-hug you.
True! I once had a discussion with my father about his role as a cattle rancher. In order to kill animals routinely, farmers typically refer to them as crops as "growing cattle" , in an effort to put them lower down on the food chain than they are, like ears of corn, and to create an objective distance.
He went on to quote the oft-used Biblical phrase of "man's dominion over animals", whereas I pointed out the dominion over does not neccesarily mean "kill all of them and eat them"! It may mean to oversee and protect, like a shepherd with his flock.
I then went on to say "But we are animals, too, Dad. We are mammals."
The look on his face, as I bested him intellectually, of surprise, happiness and astonishment, is something I will always carry with me.
@OneTwoPunch: I had a similar moment with my father, who took me hunting and had me kill a deer at the age of 9. Granted, I still eat meat, but I don't kill it and I don't eat it if it was raised on a factory farm.
@CurtCole: True. My father is a great man, and I am thankful for our conversations. He always says, if you really want to eat meat, have the balls to go out there and kill an animal, and then we'll talk. And so he does. I can respect his choice, because it comes from an honest place.
I do not know if I have the wherewithal to kill, since I've never tested myself in that regard. I suspect if it was my family's life or death, and a deer's, I would choose the deer.
As it stands in my urban life, I am mostly vegetarian, out of respect for my far-remove from nature.
@OneTwoPunch: I agree with the "If you can't kill it, or see it killed, don't eat it". I worked on an open graze organic lamb ranch for a summer, and in that time killed lambs, chickens, and helped with cows. I don't eat anything I couldn't kill.
I also learned there's a way to respect and treat animals, EVEN and ESPECIALLY if they are giving you sustenance.
Exactly. It's this reverence towards the animals who provide sustenance and life, a real regard for them instead of creating some fake reality that all meat grows in shrink-wrapped packages.
In many Native american cultures, a prayer of thanks was offered up, as a way of honoring the life spirit to the animal who's life was taken. In Christian cultures, we too also have prayers of thanks before meals.
That, to me, shows the proper respect towards nature and animals.
@OneTwoPunch: I know, right? I said that as my "Unique fact about me" for a class, and one guy went "Do people really do that??" No, lamb pops up out of the ground. Like weeds.
I am just about to graduate with a BA in Anthropology. I have had some wonderful primatologist professors, and it is something I have been thinking about going into. Such wonderful work this woman did.
MA in anthropology and PhD in biological anthropology?! My friend's following that same path, and she's also working with primates. Anyone who chooses to work with any primates has nothing but my respect and admiration (and a smidge of jealousy, but I couldn't do it because I'm not a math person).
My thoughts go out to Dr. Noon's family; while their daughter is gone, her dreams and legacy will live on with this foundation, and that's something to be proud of.
"Dr. Noon said she was often asked why she spent so much time and energy caring for chimpanzees when children were going hungry."
This always bothers me. We can't all solve all of the world's problems. When someone is doing good, why can't people just appreciate that? Besides, this question always seems to come from someone who isn't doing anything for either situation.
@IHazKittehz: This question also drives me up the wall. It seems to be code-speak for "I feel guilty for not doing anything for ANYONE, so I'm going to belittle your attempts to be concerned/involved with any issue".
@IHazKittehz: Exactly. When someone asks that kind of question, the fastest way to make them shut the fuck up is to ask them what they're doing about those starving children. Usually, they aren't doing shit.
@Eleanor Savage (Shannon): It was because the company I work just became involved with her charitable organization. They had a press launch and she came and gave a talk. I did get to chat with her a bit afterwards, and she was so incredibly nice and smart and down-to-earth.
The best part was that someone brought their dog along and she got down on her knees and was hugging the dog while he licked her face. You could really tell in that moment just how much she loves animals.
@Annabellie: Heeeee. I met her when I was in Middle School. I remember the security around her was tight and back then I did not know why. Now that I do, I love her that much more.
Ohh, I wonder if my mom has read this. It's always been her dream to work with primates, and she idolizes people who do this kind of work. I hope there are more passionate animal lovers to take her place!
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Q-Do you think there is still hope for this planet despite all the bad things we have done to our environment?
A-When I was doing the research for this book, I met so many extraordinary people who rescued species from the brink of extinction when everybody else laughed at them. One example is the California condor. At one time, there were just 12 of these birds left in the wild and one in captivity. Now there are 300. This bird would have gone but for a small group of people who would not give up. As long as we have people like that, there's hope for the future.
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Empathy, in its truest sense (not some shallow politically correct white-wash, where we are all the same) can change the world.
It's about clarity, and reality, and seeing others, and the world, as they truly are, not as one wishes them to be.
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He went on to quote the oft-used Biblical phrase of "man's dominion over animals", whereas I pointed out the dominion over does not neccesarily mean "kill all of them and eat them"! It may mean to oversee and protect, like a shepherd with his flock.
I then went on to say "But we are animals, too, Dad. We are mammals."
The look on his face, as I bested him intellectually, of surprise, happiness and astonishment, is something I will always carry with me.
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I do not know if I have the wherewithal to kill, since I've never tested myself in that regard. I suspect if it was my family's life or death, and a deer's, I would choose the deer.
As it stands in my urban life, I am mostly vegetarian, out of respect for my far-remove from nature.
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I also learned there's a way to respect and treat animals, EVEN and ESPECIALLY if they are giving you sustenance.
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Exactly. It's this reverence towards the animals who provide sustenance and life, a real regard for them instead of creating some fake reality that all meat grows in shrink-wrapped packages.
In many Native american cultures, a prayer of thanks was offered up, as a way of honoring the life spirit to the animal who's life was taken. In Christian cultures, we too also have prayers of thanks before meals.
That, to me, shows the proper respect towards nature and animals.
ps- How Silence of the Lambs!
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My thoughts go out to Dr. Noon's family; while their daughter is gone, her dreams and legacy will live on with this foundation, and that's something to be proud of.
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This always bothers me. We can't all solve all of the world's problems. When someone is doing good, why can't people just appreciate that? Besides, this question always seems to come from someone who isn't doing anything for either situation.
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I am newly inspired to volunteer at the cat shelter down the street. Thank you Carole for all you've done.
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The best part was that someone brought their dog along and she got down on her knees and was hugging the dog while he licked her face. You could really tell in that moment just how much she loves animals.
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With a kebab.
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