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    Image of UnicornZiva UnicornZiva
    11/23/09

    In reply to Ashro: Stop Being Such A Slob And Get Yourself A Suit, Hat & Wig
    GUYS. Guys I want all these hats. Seriously, like every one. Especially the pink/black one on #10.
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    boxspelunker promoted this comment UnicornZiva was starred UnicornZiva was unstarred
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    11/23/09

    @UnicornZiva: Let us unite. Seriously, I would go halfsies on a hat like these. I LOVE HATS, but I have nowhere to wear them to. It's a sad life I lead.

    OMG HAAAAAATS *clutches face*
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    Image of bernadette4 bernadette4
    11/24/09

    @boxspelunker: I'm in! I wish I had a place to wear big hats every day. The black and white floral one has my name written all over it.
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    Image of CrankyOldBroad CrankyOldBroad
    11/17/09

    In reply to 19 Crappy & Crazy Christmas Gifts From Sky Mall
    #10 - Treebeard and the Ents are sooo not gonna be happy about this. #skymall
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    Image of SouthernGal98 SouthernGal98
    11/12/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    I can't speak with any authority to high glitz child pageants - they didn't really exist when I was a kid. However, I can say from experience that some of the essayists defending child pageants are right on target. When I was three, I begged my mother to let me participate in a local cute kid contest, which she begrudgingly did. I was hooked. I did hundreds of pageants during my childhood and loved every minute of dressing up, meeting new people and performing onstage. I was not pushed to participate or to excel; I did so because I enjoyed it. And I'm now a grown, well-adjusted woman and a successful professional with multiple degrees. I credit my success in part to many of the interpersonal and communications skills I learned in those cheesy pageants. #highglitzbook
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/12/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    #1. If she didn't look like her top was going to fall off, I might accept this as a "Victorian" look for some young miss living in Murray Hill.

    #2. This is what Carrie Prejean still sees when she closes her eyes and repeats "no sex tape...no sex tape...no sex tape...no gays married...no sex tape..." PS. The dog hates America.

    #3 just killed Blofield. AND SHE WILL KILL AGAIN.

    #4 is actually Strawberry Shortcake's fucked-up cousin Cherry Tart.

    #5 is the missing Huckabee.

    #6 is hoping that her exposed navel will distract us from the fact that she just chewed a hole in her hat. #highglitzbook
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    Image of NewsBunny NewsBunny
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    Girl number three is horrifically over-sexualized. That is a very disturbing photograph. #highglitzbook
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    Image of thehighshelf thehighshelf
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    But there isn't any frivolity! There is no goofiness, luxury, or play in this mess. #highglitzbook
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    11/12/09

    @thehighshelf: Yeah, it's not quite the same as getting into your mum's lipstick and high heels, is it? #highglitzbook
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    Image of amazoncowgirl amazoncowgirl
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    The argument that by criticizing and moralizing about Pagaents is somehow denying a little girl or trans child the right to live out their fantasy of girliness just doesn't hold up. Being anti-pagaent is not about being against little girls dressing up or putting on make-up if they so desire. Or little boys either, for that matter (I have five nephews and they all loved to wear my high heels and experiment with lipstick at a certain age).

    Being anti-pagaent is about being horrified that small children are being sexualised.

    Are being forced into competition with other little children to look the cutest, sexiest, whatever.

    Are being told at such a young age that if they do not win, they are somehow less worthy, less cute.

    Are being forced to wear frigging fake nails at the age of 2, for fucks sake.

    A little girl putting on a pretty dress up frock and playing with mum's make-up is one thing. A nine year old girl who is made up to look like a provocative grown-up woman is in a totally new ballpark altogether.

    And Doonan arguing that parents are somehow cheating their children by denying them the right to compete in these pagaents is ridiculous. Parents are given these decision making responsibilities for a reason. Because they are supposed to know better than a small child what is good for them. By Doonans argument I should have been allowed to drink the entire bottle of Vallergan when I was four because I really liked the taste of it.

    I used to love being in the spotlight, wearing a pretty dress as well, Mr Doonan. Happily for me my parents sat through many an impromptu backyard play. There are other, less damaging outlets. #highglitzbook
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    Image of neuronerd neuronerd
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    Hmph. Simon Doonan, I'll have knee-jerk antipathy towards beauty pageants if I very well please, even you do think I'm "overeducated"... wait, what? Do you expect me to take that as an insult? No, better question: do you really expect me to accept the existence of such a concept as too much education?

    Also, even if you do think I'm dreary (debatable), overeducated (whatever the hell that is), and middle-class (which, okay, I am, but I'm confused as to whether raising or lowering my class would supposedly increase my appreciation of beauty pageants), lacking in spotlight intoxication I am not. I had nine perfectly enjoyable years on the competitive Irish dance circuit. And yet, I can still muster up a hefty heap of criticism for the increasing makeup-and-wig-laden glamorization trend in said competition circuit. See how that works, Mr. Doonan? I enjoyed the spotlight for the sake of athletic and artistic performance and managed to not pick up an appearance complex while doing so. I cared more about the attention I received from what I did than from how I looked. *Gasp.* #highglitzbook
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    Image of SharonTaint SharonTaint
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    Number 4 could be a Zoloft ad, I'm sorry to report. But these are the facts.

    That little girl is sad beyond her years.
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    Image of limber limber
    11/12/09

    @SharonTaint: I feel like I can not only see what Number 5 will look like at 40, but also her nascent urge to kill. #highglitzbook
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    Image of Misiula Misiula
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    Sorry, but I can't put my ideas in a more developed and refined form. I look at these pictures and can't help thinking that it's all wrong. I liked make up and dressing up as a kid. But for fun: sloppily, like a character in a play. Not like a bikini model straight from a pedophile fantasy. Dyed hair? Fake tan? Acrylic nails? Exotic dancer underwear? WTF???? #highglitzbook
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    Image of MilointheMeadow MilointheMeadow
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    Ugh, I hate it when people invoke the name of Lewis Carroll when the subject of young girls comes up. In my brain, he is a sensitive genius and not a child molester! Sticking my fingers in my ears now - LA LA LA can't hear you!! #highglitzbook
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    Image of lurkerbynature lurkerbynature
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    If you want your kid to play dress-up in a structured environment, there's always Children's Theatre. They can play with makeup and costumes to their hearts' content, and it's clearly in the realm of putting on a play not how they're supposed to grow up to be. If they get judged, it's on their performances not their looks. That's something you don't need plastic surgery to improve.

    And, they might learn some appreciation for the arts while they're at it. #highglitzbook
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    Image of SonicNapoleonic SonicNapoleonic
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    Can we just stop sexing up little kids please? It's NOT RIGHT. Kids don't need make up and sexy outfits. They need to have dirt/grass stains on them and scrapes from PLAYING like LITTLE KIDS. These pictures make me sick. It's okay to like "girly" stuff, but when it comes down to it, there is a line that should not be crossed. These girls don't fully understand the implications of their dressing up this way. It's absolutely horrifying to me that parents allow this to happen to their kids.
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    toastandlove promoted this comment Edited by SonicNapoleonic at 11/11/09 4:35 PM SonicNapoleonic was starred SonicNapoleonic was unstarred
    Image of toastandlove toastandlove
    11/11/09

    @SonicNapoleonic: I dunno, when I was 4, 5, and 6, I did need sexy outfits. (This was after my dinosaur phase, but before my reading and science phase). I wore bikini tops with cutoff shorts, short skirts, and my personal favorite, a black and pink ice skating outfit with pink sequins. I loved them. They were integral to my play.

    You take an awfully narrow view of what it means to be a kid. If I got dirt and grass stains on my dresses, I cried. I wouldn't have any of it.

    And as for my parents? They were mortified. My mother tried endlessly to push "boys" and non-gendered toys on me. I just didn't want anything to do with it. #highglitzbook
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    Image of SonicNapoleonic SonicNapoleonic
    11/11/09

    @toastandlove:
    You misunderstood me. That was only an example of the kind of play kids should be doing. I know getting dirty isn't all that kids do. Adults have a responsibility to teach their kids that sexy clothes are for adults who understand what that means (arousing sexual thought in yourself and someone else). Kids are not supposed to look sexy. Sure I played dress up but never thought about looking "sexy". I had no idea what that meant. Kids need to have that bit of nativity and innocence about them, that's what makes childhood great. No kids "needs" to play with sexy outfits to have fun, btw. #highglitzbook
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    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    Lewis Carroll was also arrested for sleeping in the bushes next to the real Alice's house, and her parents put a restraining order against him, so like, maybe he's not the greatest example of an adult who understands little girls or not being a giant creep and exploiting children. #highglitzbook
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    Image of thewitchandthemoll thewitchandthemoll
    11/11/09

    @judgingamy: He also reportedly asked her parents for permission to marry her. Awwwwwk-ward. #highglitzbook
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    Image of muddgirl muddgirl
    11/11/09

    In reply to High Glitz: Exploring Child Pageants Through A Feminist Lens
    But then how does that explain say, transgender children, or little boys who—at ages as young as 18 months—have those same interests, despite the fact that they've been taught not to?

    This argument never made sense to me, especially when it comes to transgender children. If gender is both brain-based and a social construct, it makes perfect sense that transgender girls will "like" the same things as cisgender girls. Both of them are internalizing the fact that (a) they are girls (biological), and (b) girls like X (learned).
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    toastandlove promoted this comment Edited by muddgirl at 11/11/09 3:52 PM muddgirl was starred muddgirl was unstarred
    Image of History Major History Major
    11/11/09

    @muddgirl: Right obviously transgender girls who self identify as GIRLS from the time they are born would like the things that every other girl likes and is conditioned to like.

    But there goes the fact that MANY OF US still do not consider transgender as well whatever gender they self identify.

    "Why do those little boys who say they are little girls like what other little girls like" #highglitzbook
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    11/11/09

    @History Major: AGH this makes so much sense!

    I am trans myself, and do not consider it transphobic to ask why so many trans people have such strong stereotypical ways of performing their gender. They are the most visible, so people associate that with trans people. And to ask why little kids are so gender-performatory... well, this is a great answer and helps me avoid that awkward "girls play with dolls, boys play with trucks" dichotomy that I absolutely do not believe is inborn based on sex. #highglitzbook
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