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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
06/30/09

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"Well, I thought we'd go to dinner right after we get this thing out of you."

Yeah, somehow I don't see it going down like that. I hope mother and child are doing well, since the article doesn't give much information in that regard.

"He denies any involvement in the alleged abortion and says he is being persecuted because he is a successful Arab star."

That's a fairly pathetic excuse for why he thinks they're 'attacking' him. You would think he'd come up with something a little bit more believable.
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formergr
06/30/09

@tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock: There actually is a huge amount of anti-Arab sentiment in France, partially due to a pretty large influx of Algerian and other North African immigrants in the past 20 or so years.

So it's actually not the lamest excuse to come up with, and would be believable to many (myself not included).
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
06/30/09

@formergr: Really? That's fascinating, I had no idea. Well, clearly I had no idea, my comment says as much. Thanks for letting me know.
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formergr
06/30/09

@tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock: No worries! My sister lives in France, and has told me a lot about it. It also manifests itself in employment discrimination, which causes high unemployment rates, and makes it harder for the immigrants to become successful.

Which then just perpetuates a stereotype of them lazy, causing further discrimination. Pretty bad cycle...
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JinxyMcDeath
06/30/09

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This is all sorts of wrong...

Also, how does one get a forced abortion? Are the medical care providers corrupt as well? A bunch of fucked up nurses and doctors?
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CurtCole
06/30/09

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So, apparently he is possibly facing 10 years in prison. 10 years? For assault, kidnapping, and forcing someone to undergo a medical procedure. Nothing about this seems to add up.
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elephante
06/30/09

@CurtCole: I agree, but after last week's articles about child rapists getting one year, I'll take it.
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CurtCole
06/30/09

@Eriu: Cripes, I missed that one.
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elephante
06/30/09

@CurtCole: Jeez, this was hard to find: [jezebel.com]
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CurtCole
06/30/09

@Eriu: THANKS!!!
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BeckySharper
06/30/09

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Damn. I really like his music, too. I dunno about the rest of y'all, but I have a hard time disassociating the musician and his personal crap from the music, which means my song library is really taking a hit these days.
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Majrhoulihan
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: Perhaps this is why my music library is mostly female folk singers?
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EkaterinaBallerina
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: Same here. It's sort of been ingrained in me since childhood so I have never been able to dissociate. But, it really is the only way to tell them that you disagree with their actions.
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LaComtesse
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: I think it depends. If I found a Chris Brown song catchy and had considered buying the album before, I probably wouldn't now. You could tell me Tom Waits was a puppy killer who drinks the blood of fairies and I would still rock out to "Rain Dogs."
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wickedkez
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: Yeah, I have the same problem. I have a few Chris Brown songs that are associated with really good memories... but I just can't enjoy them anymore. Can't do it.
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Majrhoulihan
06/30/09

@wickedkez: I wouldn't ever buy a Domino's pizza (not just because it's gross) but because it's CEO gives tons of money to anti-choice groups.
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CurtCole
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: I know, I used to do that all the time. I finally had to give it up because I missed their work too much.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: Yeah, I'm definitely not going to be listening to him for a while. Some things I can overlook, but this? Not so much.
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BeckySharper
06/30/09

@Majrhoulihan: Good point. If only liked female folk singers. Unfortunately I'm more into rock and hip hop. Problematic, to say the least.

@EkaterinaBallerina: Hence my very troubled feelings about Michael Jackson's music. On one hand, I'm convinced he's a pedophile. On the other hand, I caught myself totally rocking out to "ABC" and "Billie Jean" when it was played on the radio yesterday. Sigh.
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Majrhoulihan
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: It's true. You never hear any bad shit about the Indigo Girls.
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ellaesther
06/30/09

@BeckySharper: I can't give any props whatsoever to Miles Davis -- Miles motherfucking Davis! -- because he beat the crap out of Cicely Tyson.
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willwriteforfood
06/30/09

@Majrhoulihan: The fact that Domino's pizzas are gross makes it that much easier to take a stand. Win-win!
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CurtCole
06/30/09

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"The woman was allegedly forced to undergo an abortion, but on returning to France she discovered she was still pregnant and later gave birth to a daughter. "

Will someone explain to my how that works?
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BeckySharper
06/30/09

@CurtCole: Yeah, I was wondering about that too. ABORSHUN, UR DOIN IT RONG.
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Rare Affinity
06/30/09

@CurtCole: Could have been twins?
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Samanthrax
06/30/09

@CurtCole: It wouldn't be the first time an abortion failed.
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CurtCole
06/30/09

@CurtCole: Wow, learn something new everyday.
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argle-bargle? or fou-ferraw?
06/30/09

@CurtCole: if she was forced to have an abortion, i doubt she had a follow-up ultrasound, which they usually require to ensure that the procedure worked. the doctors where i live require it anyway.
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Triphena
06/30/09

@CurtCole: There's some sort of kinda old-timey abortion where they fill the womb with saline or something? I can't remember exactly what it is, and I think it's more like it triggers a miscarriage. Maybe that's what they did?
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mommy_dearest
06/30/09

@Triphena: The article says that upon returning to France, she discovered she was still pregnant, so the abortion didn't work.
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Triphena
06/30/09

@mommy_dearest: Right. The method I'm describing doesn't always work. There's some pro-life activist who was born after this sort of procedure was used, I can't remember her name. I was just using it as an example of an abortion procedure that may explain how the abortion didn't work. Like, it's really hard to fathom how during a surgical abortion they'd miss the fetus, but if they were using more rudimentary techniques, maybe that's why.
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