Having been involuntarily admitted to locked psych wards as well as having someone watch my every move in a 72-hour suicide watch while there.. Well, I have a really hard time seeing anything like this being publicized.
It was hard for me as a college student nobody (and then hearing "She's crazy!" behind my back for years afterwards). I can't imagine how difficult it would be as a member of the very public eye.
Events like this personalize the celebrity to me and my own experiences. So I can't celebrate this. I just want to give them a hug or something.
I think it is all explained by "Britney's New Look" South Park Season 12. From the dawn of time we have taken a young girl, treated her like a princess and they are sacrifices for the harvest.
@kissmyarchetype: That's exactly the image I have when I read these zingers in the press.
On a side note: Bravo Hortense for summing that up in a reasonable and concise manner. The madness is not stopping anytime soon, but it is refreshing to read a piece like yours.
College Candy has been deserving a good take down by Jezebel for a long time now. Thanks, Hortense. I don't usually read it, but every time I do, it is a sexist, classicist or demeaning article upon the other. The funny thing is that the first time I heard of that site, it was during the Moe and Tracie debacle, pointing out how they were being anti feminist.
At the matter at hand, let's just say that celebrity gossip is not in my top ten favorite subjects (even when it's something innocuous like criticism to how one dresses kinda bothers me), but I really like how Jezebel, and especially Hortense, use it as a starting point to more substantive discussions.
In this case, young pretty female celebrities and their serious problems, I believe it's the old Madonna/Whore complex taking place at the same time in people's imaginarium, they are supposed to be saintly sexy, objects without desire, and when they express any kind of will, besides being roll models, you know being humans, society will eat the alive.
I will only say this: This little female college student at Michigan State University is damned lucky she didn't say a bunch of ugly stuff about my pretty, pretty girl. I'm injured and full of pills, by that wouldn't stop me from having a little discussion with her.
I think we celebrate because we're furious that we are made to feel so bad about ourselves for not being perfectly beautiful. Of course it's not the fault of the individual women, but they're the face of it, and when someone we feel has oppressed us fails, we are finally safe to express our hate.
I feel awful for them (in fact, I often have these sad sympathetic dreams about Lindsay Lohan, which is weird), but I also feel a part of me being like, yeah, that's right, not so pretty now, HUH, skinny lady?!?
As useless as I think a lot of these young women are, I am genuinely appalled by the media's and the public's appetite for watching them break down. In part because I think there are a lot of really insidious gender dynamics behind it...particularly as regards the ones who were child stars.
Both Britney and Lindsey went through a similar cycle. They were child stars - arguably with genuine talent - who grew up in the media eye. Right around the time they went through puberty the "industry" swooped in and over-sexualized them. The internet was abuzz the moment their boobs came in...creepy bastards were counting down the days until they turned 18. I don't know about anyone else, but I hid under a sweatshirt for a full year when I got my boobs. I wasn't ready for the attention. I suspect they weren't either...certainly not on an international scale.
I think they both made attempts at staying "wholesome": Britney by getting married and having babies, Lindsey by getting really skinny and trying to reverse puberty. THEN when they realized that wouldn't work they went ahead and tried to play the hyper-sexualized vixen role the world wanted to see and get some empowerment out of it, but without the chance to mature psychologically in a healthy environment...they just got eaten alive.
I mean, that's just my armchair-psychologist version of things but I suspect it's not far from the truth. Either way, I don't think it's anything to laugh at.
I think we can all admit to being shocked at the downfall of certain female celebrities (Britney Spears, for me) and, unfortunately, maybe a bit amused. But the level of vitriol in that college article (and as displayed by others) truly astounds me.
I celebrate when a Celebrity's assholeishness or diva ways are exposed, and they look silly for being such a snob. (dressing room riders, anyone?) However, illness and addiction are sad, and not the fault of the person, no matter how famous. I feel for anyone who has to suffer through that, even if they seem to have the perfect life otherwise.
If you end up with a DWI or some other situation where your illness or addiction hurts others though, no sympathy from me. That's dangerous jerk behavior and there's no excuse.
@weetziebat: But how can you say that addiction is sad to the point where it doesn't harm others? I don't think anyone truly intends to get a DWI or hurt other people as a result of their drunken/drug-fueled actions. I'm not saying we shouldn't punish them, but sympathy is not a finite resource.
@angelina jolie-laide is a gaudy tulip: I guess i'm more sympathetic towards the people they hurt or could have hurt, and i don't feel bad for the person doing the hurting. Not all people who have issues with mental illness or addiction are a danger to others, just like not all people with anger issues end up attacking someone physically. I feel that there's enough free will involved that the action can't be blamed on the addiction.
I wish we could focus our energies on young women going through the same hell, but those without the movie deals, TV shows, paparazzi, etc.
As much as folks sip on haterade when it comes to these starlets, the fact is that they CAN get better and often have the resources, family and friends (not to mention directors or producers) to help them reach recovery. They can afford costly rehabilitative therapy, therapists, nutritionists, personal trainers, the whole shebang. And we all love a good comeback story and expect it.
But this fact tempers my empathy for them. Because there are so many young women who are self-destructing and suffering with addiction, but who's shining the light on that? Where's their trip to Betty Ford? Or restorative exotic vacation from destructive environments? These stories should only be used as a way to shine light on the plight of other women who may be going through the same thing, but with no road to recovery that's paved with glitter and gold.
I wonder if it's easier for these people to fall harder than the non-famous person because of all the Hollywood people kissing your ass. "Oh no Lindsay you don't need to go to rehab! The haters are just jealous!" Maybe the ass-kissing insulates them from truly realizing how rock-bottom they are. Whereas say, a schoolteacher in Wisconsin doesn't have that.
And maybe the common girl is unhappy because when they fuck up, they don't get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to show up to set and do blow in the trailer. Hence the glee.
I hope I'm never as mean as that person who wrote that article. God, lady.
I was going to write something smart about various falls from grace, repetition of history, and the cyclical nature of humanity. I was going to reference Vico and Joyce and be a nerd about it. But the more I thought about it, the more I just wanted to say that the world has always been full of jerks with a certain blood lust and an intense jealousy of those that are worshiped and honored by the masses. We love the rise and love the fall. Two shows for the price of one.
@BicSharpie: Do you see the current iteration of that - produced and sustained by instant internet content, the atomization and digestion of bodies thanks to telephoto lenses and general paparazzi culture, the constant feed of commentary - as an intensification or merely a variation?
@andBegorrah: The only variation that I can see is that the rise seems to have become less important than the fall. And I think that is because of instant information and viral stupidity.
I don't. When it comes down to it, some of them may really be assholes, spoiled rotten, mean--but the ones with obvious illnesses, of course not.
It really comes down to empathy, I cannot, for a moment, understand what it's like to be in that monster of an industry, where you may never know who your friends are (if they even exist) and even your family may look at your as a cash cow. Pair that with paranoia, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, leading to likely drug use....it's certainly a recipe for serious problems.
When you look at young women who seem well adjusted, the constant always seems to be 1) a trusting connection with at least one family member and/or 2) keeping connections with people from their "pre-famous" life. Things that keep one grounded.
I am not a fan of all these women, I dislike Lohan simply because I feel she's been elevated by some and I really think she's mediocre, talent-wise. I never listened to Spears' music, and I Reid.....well, indifference. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't cause a lump in my throat when I see them self-medicating and self-destructing. It's heartbreaking.
Not only does celebrating actresses who have fallen make life more difficult for them, it makes it worse for those not in the limelight to come forward and get help for their similar issues. All the media is doing is making those who suffer from depression/addiction feel as though they have to isolate themselves for fear of being seen of as a failure.
I blame the Germans. If we didn't have such an awesomely fun word to say like "schadenfreude" that so perfectly encapsulated the feeling, we wouldn't be able to express it. (That's why Scandinavians are physiologically incapable "chillaxing." FACT.)
@andBegorrah: But according to Sapir and Whorf if you do not have an expression in your own language, you cannot act upon it.
MUAHAHAHAHA! I maliciously enjoy you unknowingness!
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08/01/09
It was hard for me as a college student nobody (and then hearing "She's crazy!" behind my back for years afterwards). I can't imagine how difficult it would be as a member of the very public eye.
Events like this personalize the celebrity to me and my own experiences. So I can't celebrate this. I just want to give them a hug or something.
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@kissmyarchetype: That's exactly the image I have when I read these zingers in the press.
On a side note: Bravo Hortense for summing that up in a reasonable and concise manner. The madness is not stopping anytime soon, but it is refreshing to read a piece like yours.
08/01/09
At the matter at hand, let's just say that celebrity gossip is not in my top ten favorite subjects (even when it's something innocuous like criticism to how one dresses kinda bothers me), but I really like how Jezebel, and especially Hortense, use it as a starting point to more substantive discussions.
In this case, young pretty female celebrities and their serious problems, I believe it's the old Madonna/Whore complex taking place at the same time in people's imaginarium, they are supposed to be saintly sexy, objects without desire, and when they express any kind of will, besides being roll models, you know being humans, society will eat the alive.
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I feel awful for them (in fact, I often have these sad sympathetic dreams about Lindsay Lohan, which is weird), but I also feel a part of me being like, yeah, that's right, not so pretty now, HUH, skinny lady?!?
08/01/09
Both Britney and Lindsey went through a similar cycle. They were child stars - arguably with genuine talent - who grew up in the media eye. Right around the time they went through puberty the "industry" swooped in and over-sexualized them. The internet was abuzz the moment their boobs came in...creepy bastards were counting down the days until they turned 18. I don't know about anyone else, but I hid under a sweatshirt for a full year when I got my boobs. I wasn't ready for the attention. I suspect they weren't either...certainly not on an international scale.
I think they both made attempts at staying "wholesome": Britney by getting married and having babies, Lindsey by getting really skinny and trying to reverse puberty. THEN when they realized that wouldn't work they went ahead and tried to play the hyper-sexualized vixen role the world wanted to see and get some empowerment out of it, but without the chance to mature psychologically in a healthy environment...they just got eaten alive.
I mean, that's just my armchair-psychologist version of things but I suspect it's not far from the truth. Either way, I don't think it's anything to laugh at.
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If you end up with a DWI or some other situation where your illness or addiction hurts others though, no sympathy from me. That's dangerous jerk behavior and there's no excuse.
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As much as folks sip on haterade when it comes to these starlets, the fact is that they CAN get better and often have the resources, family and friends (not to mention directors or producers) to help them reach recovery. They can afford costly rehabilitative therapy, therapists, nutritionists, personal trainers, the whole shebang. And we all love a good comeback story and expect it.
But this fact tempers my empathy for them. Because there are so many young women who are self-destructing and suffering with addiction, but who's shining the light on that? Where's their trip to Betty Ford? Or restorative exotic vacation from destructive environments? These stories should only be used as a way to shine light on the plight of other women who may be going through the same thing, but with no road to recovery that's paved with glitter and gold.
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And maybe the common girl is unhappy because when they fuck up, they don't get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to show up to set and do blow in the trailer. Hence the glee.
I hope I'm never as mean as that person who wrote that article. God, lady.
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It really comes down to empathy, I cannot, for a moment, understand what it's like to be in that monster of an industry, where you may never know who your friends are (if they even exist) and even your family may look at your as a cash cow. Pair that with paranoia, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, leading to likely drug use....it's certainly a recipe for serious problems.
When you look at young women who seem well adjusted, the constant always seems to be 1) a trusting connection with at least one family member and/or 2) keeping connections with people from their "pre-famous" life. Things that keep one grounded.
I am not a fan of all these women, I dislike Lohan simply because I feel she's been elevated by some and I really think she's mediocre, talent-wise. I never listened to Spears' music, and I Reid.....well, indifference. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't cause a lump in my throat when I see them self-medicating and self-destructing. It's heartbreaking.
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MUAHAHAHAHA! I maliciously enjoy you unknowingness!
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Wait ... damn ...
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http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/164627
Seriously after this I realized that we really do treat these girls like human sacrifices.