<![CDATA[Jezebel: cary tennis]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/jezebel.com.png <![CDATA[Jezebel: cary tennis]]> http://jezebel.com/tag/carytennis http://jezebel.com/tag/carytennis <![CDATA[Not That You Asked: Some Advice For An Advice Columnist]]> Salon advice columnist Cary Tennis mostly gets blogosphere attention when his answers are WTF-laden, but today I'd like to praise him for getting it right, in response to a guy who's obsessed with his wife's rape. Well, mostly. Partly. Whatever.

Disclosure: I am on Salon's payroll, which doesn't influence my opinion much (you won't find me mincing words about Camille Paglia), but as a reader, I've long had a soft spot for Tennis's writing, which does. So I will respond to yesterday's column in the form of an open letter to him, lest I fall into the trap of giving advice without remembering that I am talking about a real human being — something he generally doesn't do, hence soft spot. Consider it my own little one-off advice column: "Not That You Asked."

Dear Cary (may I call you Cary?).

I've been reading your column for years, and in my opinion, your greatest strength and greatest weakness as an advice-giver are the same: You are relentlessly empathetic and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. This often makes your long, thoughtful responses quite moving. It also often leaves the reader wondering, "Why are you being so nice to this asshole? Did you not see the part where he said [complete asshole thing]? Call him out!"

Yesterday was one of those days, although in this case, "asshole" is probably too strong a word. Let's call him A Guy With Serious Issues That Are Above Your Pay Grade And Mine And Maybe Even A Licensed Therapist's. ("Guy," for short.) Guy tells you that 20 years ago, around the time he started dating his wife, she was raped. She has processed it and moved on with her life, and chooses not to talk about it now. Guy is not over it. Says Guy:

I can't let it go. I think about it daily, 20 years after the fact. I wonder about the details. I'm angry at the friend who let it happen. I blame (only to myself) current behaviors of my wife on the fact that she was raped then. I fantasize about causing harm to the man who committed the crime. But this was so long ago, and our lives are so different, and reasonably happy, now. Why my obsession?

Wisely, you don't really attempt to answer that question, because seriously, who knows? Also wisely, you encourage him to consult a licensed professional on the matter, even though he says, "I have had therapists but never felt able to talk to them about it." You spend a long time talking him through how that might go, the finally opening up to a therapist, which is probably something he needs. People do usually respond better to gentle guidance than no-holds-barred ass-kicking, I think.

But the problem with being an advice columnist (and I was one, briefly, albeit only for a blog with almost no readers) is that you're simultaneously writing back to the person who sought your advice and to a whole bunch of strangers. You are well aware of this, of course, if for no other reason than the vile pit of hatred that is (or sometimes can be, more charitably) your comments section. But I bring it up anyway because I think that sometimes your empathy for a person who has come to you with a problem, and is maybe even sincerely trying to change, leads you to forget that those other readers might need to hear something different.

Take that dude who didn't want to tell his new girlfriend he used to beat his wife. I know you've already heard a lot about that one, so I'll keep it brief. But Cary, as much as that guy may have been truly remorseful and really needed some support, your other readers — who almost certainly include domestic violence victims, abusers, and people who will some day become one or both of the above — need you, too. We need you to point out explicitly that beating your wife half a dozen times is six times too many, and not a youthful indiscretion that can be brushed away. We need you to say that, even if this particular guy really deserves the benefit of the doubt (who knows?), most abusers don't stop with one time, or one victim. In light of that, we need you to call him out on describing his ex as malicious for wanting to warn the new girlfriend about his past behavior. Come on! We need you to say that yes, people can change — you're living proof — but the reality remains that many people do not, and learning that your partner has a history of being abusive is a very good reason to leave him. That sort of thing, you know? Then you can get into walking him through the best-case scenario for him.

With Guy, it's not as clear-cut. He's got this problem, he knows it's fucked up, he's asking for help. Except — that part about him not being able to tell a therapist about it? That's a red flag for me. And the part about him blaming his wife's (unspecified) unpleasant behavior on a rape that happened 20 years ago, even if he doesn't say so out loud? That's another one. His anger at the friend who "let it happen," as though rape is anyone's fault but the rapist's? Number 3. And his fantasies about harming the guy? Common among men whose loved ones are raped, as I understand it, but daily, 20 years later? That's a red flag.

And when you put all those red flags together, it seems clear that this is not a letter you can take at face value. He's angry at all the wrong people, he's obsessed with an act of violence that happened to someone else two decades ago, and he thinks he needs help but won't tell a therapist about it? This guy seems to think his wife's rape happened to him, for Pete's sake. That is all shit your readers need you to address before you put the kid gloves back on and try to be helpful.

Having said all that, I promised to give you credit for getting something very right, which is this: You brought the concept of rape culture into your response, and encouraged Guy to take responsibility for helping to end it.

How do young men find the motive and the opportunity to commit such crimes? This was not a lone crazy stalker. This happened within a trusted social network. So there is something in our society that permits such things to occur. That is probably part of what outrages you so, and rightly. It confers upon you an obligation to speak out. When those to whom these things happen are silent, nothing is done to prevent further occurrences.

This rape that happened 20 years ago is not simply a private matter between you and your wife. It is a social problem today. Each of us bears some responsibility for embodying principles of respect and dignity that act as a social deterrent to the depersonalization that must occur in order for a man to commit rape. By supporting educational and law-enforcement programs that inform women, empower them and remove their attackers from the population, you can transform this crime into something positive.

That is 95% awesome, and incredibly refreshing to see in an advice column (or anywhere), so really, thank you for that. As for the other 5%, two quibbles: 1) As I just mentioned, the rape didn't actually happen to him, but to his wife, who apparently is choosing to be silent. There are lots of reasons why survivors might make that choice, primary among them that speaking out often brings judgment, derision and disbelief. (That's rape culture!) So, while it's absolutely true that decent people in general have an obligation to speak out against rape and rape culture, and that hearing the voices of victims has a powerful impact, let's not put too much pressure on "those to whom these things happen," okay? 2) Related to that, while the "educational and law-enforcement programs" you speak of are all important, you left out one crucial element, even though it's exactly what you're doing here (and well, and thank you again!): Educating men. Educating them first, not to rape — which you'd think would be a no-brainer, but the number of "nice guys" who "would never do a thing like that," and yet do do things like that, tells us otherwise — and second, not to support rape culture. Not to objectify women, or let it slide when others do; not to violate women's boundaries, even just to say hello; to call the police when they see a young woman being attacked instead of standing by or worse, joining in. That sort of thing. There's a lot men can do that doesn't necessarily involve law enforcement or teaching women to protect themselves. You just did some of it in this column, and it would be terrific if you encouraged guys like Guy to do even more of it among themselves.

But you know, I think I just put my finger on the thing that's really bothering me about your exchange with this writer, the thing that's really missing. (Like you, I often have to write my way into the real point, and it rarely happens quickly.) It's that fantasy about causing harm to the rapist. Like I said, it's common. I didn't tell my dad for months after I was raped, because I knew he'd respond exactly how he eventually did, with a bunch of talk about shotguns and "If I get my hands on him..." (And my dad is the type of guy who enjoys crossword puzzles, bird watching, and making goofy faces at babies a lot more than macho posturing. He's 5'8" on his tippy toes. His ideal Saturday afternoon involves sitting on a dock, waiting for a turtle to pop his head out of the water every 15 minutes, and exclaiming, "Oh! There he is!" whenever it does. You get the picture.) I didn't know at the time why that reaction bothered me so much — I've appreciated others' desire for vengeance on my behalf for much lesser cruelties — but now I do. It's because that, too, is part of rape culture.

When men focus on their urge to punish the rapist with their bare hands, instead of on the victim's needs — like, moving on after 20 years, for instance? — it reinforces a lot of nasty shit. Like the idea that women belong to their men, and a woman being raped takes something from those men. The idea that violence is best solved with more violence. The idea that making one rapist so sorry he'll never do it again — which, good luck with that — will do a damned thing to end rape. The idea that women need protection from and by big, tough guys more than we need a woman-friendly culture in which we're free to move autonomously and safely. The idea that once a rape has happened, there's anything anyone can do to fix it. A guy still laboring under any or all of those delusions needs to be disabused of them swiftly, as much as he may also need some gentle advice.

That's what I really didn't like about that letter. I liked a lot of things about your response, but if Guy had written to me, I'd have made sure to add all that, too. Not that you asked.

Fondly,
Kate

I Can't Get Over My Wife's Rape — 20 Years Ago [Salon]

Related: I'm A Former Abuser — Should I Tell My Girlfriend? [Salon]
Rape Culture 101 [Shakesville]
Guest Blogger Starling: Schrödinger's Rapist: Or A Guy's Guide To Approaching Strange Women Without Being Maced [Shapely Prose]

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<![CDATA["I Am Fed Up With Feeling Like A Secondhand Citizen To Gadgets!"]]> "My boyfriend's an iPhone addict!" complains one letter-writer to Salon's Cary Tennis. Lady (or gent?): Join the club. [Salon]

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<![CDATA[Advice On Advice: Rating Internet Advice Columns]]> Advice columns are a little like cats: they may not actually do much, but they're fun to look at. Also like cats, not all advice columns are created equal. After the jump, we grade a few of the major players.

We can't rate all the advice columns on the internet (and we had to eliminate some for reasons of bias), but the following is a representative sampling. The grades, like advice, are totally subjective.


Dear Prudence, by Emily Yoffe

Unlike, say, Prudence Farrow, Emily Yoffe does not put up with any nonsense. Nonsense includes: masturbating too much, "using up [a woman's] most fertile years," and having doubts about a generally decent boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse. Though she sometimes provides a refreshing kick in the pants, or gets mad on behalf of people who aren't mad enough ("You're a generous and forgiving person. I'm less generous and forgiving"), but she also name-checks Emily Post a lot and seems creepily in favor of settling. She's not quite Dr. Laura, but she might be a little bit Lori Gottlieb.
Favorite topics: bad manners, terrible family secrets, silly relationship problems (his toupee!)
Words of wisdom: On masturbation — "Get a grip and give it a rest. Maybe if you make the decision to do something else with your hands (whittling? knitting? flossing?), you'll find you aren't so obsessed with your urges. Then masturbation will become a pleasurable thing you do sometimes instead of a twice-daily necessity."
Grade: B-

Friend or Foe, by Lucinda Rosenfeld
Friend or Foe focuses on friend drama, mostly of the female persuasion. Since Rosenfeld has only written three columns, it's hard to tell how she'll turn out, but as we've mentioned before, her column is predicated on a pretty competitive view of female closeness. Then again, her advice-seekers aren't doing anything to dispel this view. One writes that her so-called friend "swiped a significant amount of my Crème de la Mer" even though said friend "is beautiful, wrinkle-free, and rich-and I'm so not any of the above."
Favorite topics: back-stabbing, moisturizer thievery, and the baby as status symbol
Words of wisdom: "Clearly, your friend Haley was jealous and didn't know how to deal with your expanding belly. Similarly, the appearance of her own potential sperm donor has made her less threatened by the sight of all those Build-A-Bears strewn across your living room floor."
Grade: C

Savage Love, by Dan Savage
Dan Savage has been hugely influential, and we bet lots of college kids have traveled the trajectory from reading his columns aloud and laughing at the "freaks" to realizing that kinks don't make you bad or crazy, and accepting said kinks in themselves and others. Savage has added several important terms to the American sexicon — concerned yet time-strapped friends can now tell their deluded buddies to DTMFA. And he was using his column to raise awareness about gay marriage and gay rights long before Prop. H8 came on the scene. But he also subscribes to some troubling stereotypes — that only girls can be bi, for instance, or that black people are more homophobic than whites. He's also not particularly sympathetic to people who gain weight while in relationships. So while Dan Savage is a pretty good guy to have on your side if you're a superhero fetishist, he's not so good if you are, say, a bi black dude with body image issues — or if you believe, like Megan, that "a columnist who is all about letting people know the safest way to drink other people's urine" should be a little more open-minded about things like male sexual fluidity.
Favorite topics: open relationships (for), coprophilia (against), sexual word coinages ("santorum"), dumping-the-motherfucker-already
Words of wisdom: "Look, SAD, this isn't a relationship. It's a hostage situation. Your boyfriend is an asshole. Wait, maybe I'm not being fair-to assholes, which are as delightful as they are functional. Your boyfriend is a piece of shit, a loose stool, a santorum slick. And you, my dear, have the worst case of lousy-relationship-induced Stockholm syndrome that I've ever encountered."
Grade: B

Since You Asked, by Cary Tennis
I have to admit that Cary Tennis, with his long, loopy, and sometimes frankly unhelpful answers to equally long and loopy queries, has a special place in my heart. Maybe it's his acknowledgment that advice usually says more about the advice-giver than the problem at hand, or his unwillingness to come down hard on one side of any issue — until, when you least expect it, he does. Cary is kind of like a dithering, slightly dotty grandma — she goes off on tangents a lot, and sometimes she doesn't even answer your question, but she knows that life is complicated, being a good person is tough, and ultimately the only advice she can give is her own totally fallible opinion.
Favorite topics: writing, alcoholism, vague dissatisfaction, ennui
Words of wisdom:On the creative life — "But the work, that is another thing. The real work is staggering; the real work is work. It is not dream. It is pushing against the wall; it is hearing what we do not want to hear; it is doing the numbers; it is learning the new terms as they come along; it is sitting through evaluations and self-evaluations. It is an eternal object lesson in our powerlessness and our smallness. The real work is grinding and slow. "
Grade: A-

Obviously the primary point of any advice column isn't really to help advice-seekers — it's to entertain and soothe the readers, who, while we may not share the exact problems discussed, still have various shitty things in our lives that we want to feel better about. The guy who slept with his stepmom and the woman who likes oral sex from her dog make our own dilemmas seem smaller, but what really separates the great advice column from the so-so is its ability to make us feel that life is livable, that we are going to be okay. And sometimes the best way to do this is not to tell people what to do, but to acknowledge that we live in an uncertain universe, and that we all need to learn, in our own way, how to cope with that uncertainty.

Since You Asked [Salon]
Friend Or Foe [Double X]
Savage Love [The Stranger]
Dear Prudence [Slate]

Earlier: Dan Savage: Cool With Drinking Piss, Weird About Bisexuality
Dan Savage Has Stopped Blaming Black Voters For Prop 8

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<![CDATA[Guy Who Put Hot Sauce In Used Condoms May Need Therapy, Swift Kick In The Balls]]> Say you're having sex with a woman, but you're worried that, being a lying, baby-hungry female, she might secretly impregnate herself with the used condom. Your solution: hot sauce.

According to a letter to Cary Tennis, a radio talk show host advised his male listeners to squirt hot sauce into their used condoms so that women with stealth-pregnancy on the brain would get a burnt vagina instead. At the very least, the host told guys to wash their condoms thoroughly after removal to prevent ladies from stealing their precious seed. Like any person with half a brain and a quarter of a conscience, the letter-writer thought this was insane . . . until she told her fiance about it:

I laughed and said the host sounded like an egomaniac who didn't know a lot about reproduction, but then I noticed he wasn't laughing with me.

I said, Did you believe that guy? And he said, Yes. So I asked, Did you do that when we were together and using condoms? (I'm on different birth control now.) And he said, Well, yes.

She goes on to say that her fiance has OCD issues and maybe that's why he's obsessed with sperm-stealing, and Cary suggests that he get treatment before they get married. He also says that the radio host in question is probably Tom Leykis, who also recommends that a man lie to women about his job, and that he "scribble his phone number on a found ATM receipt that reflects a large bank balance" in order to make himself look rich. According to Cary, Leykis assumes "that neither party is in good faith and that each is trying to screw over the other. That's a model of the capitalist marketplace at its worst; it is not a model of a loving relationship." May we add that if you're the kind of guy who would put hot sauce in your condoms, you might attract the kind of woman who would try to knock herself up without your knowledge?

My fiancé put hot sauce in his used condoms [Salon]

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<![CDATA[Is Seeing Prostitutes A Deal Breaker?]]> So, Eliot Spitzer, huh? As most know by now, the muckraking, ethically-superior New York Governor is said to have been "involved" in a prostitution ring. There were federal wiretaps at play, and the sexual congress took place at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on the day before Valentines'. In light of Spitzer's transgressions, today's Since You Asked advice column in Salon seems oddly prophetic! A distraught reader asks Cary Tennis, "Have I ruined my karma by sleeping with prostitutes?" The reader feels his life has been destroyed by years of whoring, and wonders if he's a horrible person for cheating on his wife with hookers. Tennis gives some drawn out, hippy-dippy response as per usual, but ultimately decides "It is not about abstract forces and balance sheets. It's about conduct and relationships." This dude should probably forgive himself, but it begs the question — if you knew your guy had frequented prostitutes, would it be a deal breaker?

And I don't necessarily mean "frequented prostitutes" while the two of you were together. I think for most people, being cheated on with a prostitute would be serious cause for relationship reevaluation. I dated one dude who admitted to frequenting hookers when he lived in Ecuador, and I must admit, it made me think twice about getting in a serious relationship with him. But that was just me; have your say in the poll below and/or in the comments.

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<![CDATA[ Today an unhappy wife writes in to Cary...]]> Today an unhappy wife writes in to Cary Tennis's advice column on Salon, seeking counsel because her husband keeps yelling at her when they go skiing together. "My husband cannot understand why I won't go faster, and he gets upset when I ski slowly. He even thinks I ski slowly on purpose. But I cannot go fast, or at least not as fast as he does. I've tried. It's just not my thing," the woman writes. Well first off, lady, your husband sounds like kind of an asshole, but secondly, there's something innately icky about couples working out together. It's sort of like wearing matching sweaters: exercising in tandem seems way too Doublemint gum commercial for real life. [Salon]

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<![CDATA[Should A Woman Take Her Husband's Name?]]> Oh God, I find myself agreeing with ashram-friendly advice columnist Cary Tennis for the second time in under a month! Today, Cary deals with a woman who is afraid that taking her husband-to-be's last name would be anti-feminist. Cary spends over 1,000 words blathering on about male dominance and the circus and stripper names, but eventually comes to the conclusion that feminism is about choice, and it should be a woman's choice whether or not she takes her husband's name. Cary says that if he were to choose, he would keep his name, but of course a sensitive ponytail man would make the anti-patriarchy choice. As a writer, I'm always going to keep my maiden name as my professional byline, but I'd never subject possible future children to the last name Grose if I could help it. The schoolyard taunts are still ringing in my ears.

Over at the over at the XX Factor, the coven is discussing Hillary's choice to drop the "Rodham" from her name and simplify to just "Clinton" for the 2008 presidential race. A CNN poll from last yearshows Americans preferred Clinton sans Rodham. Again, it's hard for me to cast judgment since I think this is fundamentally an issue of personal choice that has little or nothing to do with one's position as a feminist. But is Hillary a traitor to the cause?

Should I Take My Husband's Name? [Salon]
The XX Factor [Slate]

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<![CDATA["I Think You Should E-mail My Wife And Apologize"]]> For possibly the first time in his career, Salon's resident sensitive new age ponytail man cum advice columnist Cary Tennis gives excellent counsel. A woman wrote in today about an "emotional affair" she had with a former boss that never became physical. The energy her boss was spending on their relationship nearly ruined his marriage. The woman has subsequently left her job, and her now ex-boss wants her to write an e-mail apologizing to his wife, as all three of them must interact professionally in the future. The letter writer says:

"I feel like they labeled me the harlot who almost ruined their marriage, and I suspect he didn't fess up to his wife how emotionally involved he was with me. Although I don't want to apologize, I also feel an obligation to, just to smooth things over and make them feel better. But I'm uncomfortable apologizing because I feel like it gives them more fodder to use me as an excuse for their marital problems. Does my ex-boss's wife deserve an apology from me?"

"If his wife deserves anything, she deserves an end to the conspiratorial intimacy between you and her husband," Cary writes. "He is now trying to use you to manipulate his wife, as though you were currency. You are not currency for him to spend in his fragile marriage. You are not a messenger for his guilt. You are not a singing telegram he can send to his wife to say I'm sorry I was such an asshole."

You are not a singing telegram. Words to live by!

My Boss Wants Me To Apologize To His Wife [Salon]

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