People are sick, sick fucks and I'll never understand them thank god.
One dark night of my soul, I posted something on the CL spirituality forum. While about 90% of the responses were great, there were some people who were just a*sholes to me. I'm like, "Why the hell are you trolling the spirituality forum? There's nothing on television?!!!"
Cops, paramedics, doctors, etc. leak this stuff all the time. If they have a policy where they work, it should be enough. If they don't have a policy, they'll be sued in civil court.
Criminal laws could be a very bad idea - as it could have a chilling effect on whistle-blowers - there's a fine line that requires careful definitions to be imposed.
For those of you who googled the pictures, may I ask why? I'm guessing that it's morbid curiosity, but I'm curious to hear from you guys.
It's difficult to write about stories like this. Dodai is in the uncomfortable position of increasing the views of those photos by reporting on why we shouldn't be looking at them. Obviously, she can't control the reactions of her readers.
@thesciencegirl: BTW, I ask this is an incredibly, ridiculously curious person. But I couldn't bring myself to search for these photos; it just seemed so clearly wrong.
I also refuse to google tubgirl, but that's self-preservation more than anything else.
@thesciencegirl: I can say I was curious to learn more of the story however I very strongly did not want to see those pictures. Part of me can not deal with the fact that people make jokes of others misfortunes and I searched to see if I could make sense of it. A failing cause of course because some people are just cruel. I made sure to only open articles that were of an official site, news sites and wikipedia although I accidentally opened encyclopedia dramatic having never been there, read the first paragraph and had to leave in case it got worse. There is something in me that always has to question tragedy, I wanted to know how this happened, but not see anything. Regardless of if it is considered to be public I think there needs to be more control of our own information on the internet especially with places like 4 chan. My guy showed me the site for animal pics and I surfed around and was sickened by the 16 girls posted and the lewd comments that follow. But I guess those pics follow the idea of its public so you can use it anyway you want.
Oh God. I gotta get out of here because I can't even stand it. I will not look at the photos, because I do not want to spend the next several weeks thinking of nothing but. I feel so sick and sad and angry for her family. And for her, really. Because who in fuck would ever want to be remembered let alone seen that way? No. The world can be such a horrible, wrong place. Populated with more horrible, wrong people than any of us will ever know.
Some primetime news show did a story on this family before the lawsuit. The cruelty this family has endured is disgusting. I remember hearing that schoolmates would taunt the daughters with pictures of their sister (she was decapitated). What kind of monster does that? WHO THE FUCK THINKS SHARING PICTURES LIKE THIS WITH THE PUBLIC IS A GOOD IDEA?? Some people are sick fucks...
@mollymoxie: I watched that too. Dateline? It seems like something they'd report on.
The girls have NOTHING to do with the Internet because they're scared to accidentally see the pictures. There's nothing funny about it. I have no clue why anyone would use them for sick and disgusting "humor".
I thought you could sue a person for emotional distress or something like that. Seems like this family could do that, or get the emailers on harassment AT LEAST. How does that not count as harassment?
I'm not at all trying to make light of this, but seriously, if Paris Hilton can get her sex tape ripped off of the internet, why is this family not able to have these pictures taken away?
@Leslie: Paris Hilton has the rights to her sex tape and posting it online is piracy. I was trying to think if there was a way this family could get the rights to the photos, but I'm sure if they could they would have already.
If any of the sites posting the photos are also making money from ads, and are using the photos to generate web hits, couldn't that be considered using her likeness to make money?
I have no idea if any of the sites are, but if that arguement is even possible, that maybe could get some of the photos down.
@Leslie: Dateline (or a show like it) covered this story awhile back. The family actually did hire a company that specializes in removing info from the web. They succeeded in toning it down but all it takes is one person to upload it again, ya know? Pictures are pretty unstoppable.
@Leslie: As the closest I come to a law degree is watching SVU and talking to my friend and my grandfather, this is not a question I could answer definitively, but I guess one could try that if applicable...
@Leslie: @LaComtesse Mourns Bea Arthur: i see where you are going, but i feel like with the proliferation of these photos, somebody somewhere made some bank on them. it's not like these photos were from a magazine cover...somebody had to have made some cash on them somewhere in the stupidity chain.
@Leslie: Part of the Paris Hiton ruling was that she participated in creating the tape by directing some of the action, so she owned the content. The family had no role in the creation of these images. Really, CHS owns the photos and should be held responsible for controlling their release and correcting the damage from the leak.
"Any young person that sees these photos and is goaded into driving more cautiously or less recklessly-that's a public service."
um, it's not a public service when you don't have approval from the dead's next of kin to circulate the photos.
a good friend of mine works for the local medical examiner, and the laws that surround releasing names of people who die are voluminous. the CHiP idiots who circulated the photo should be sued for other reasons since the stupid first judge threw out the case.
weird as it sounds, this whole thing makes me thing of the sexting phenomena. am i alone in this?
@rednrowdy: Yeah, I'm sickened by this type of infliction of fear as a way to get teens to drive cautiously. As long as there are teens, there will be reckless driving (not to mention adults who talk on their phones, etc while driving or just in general do not care about harming those around them). I sincerely doubt showing these awful pictures will do anything to stop accidents. At the most, someone who looks at them might drive more carefully for a day then go back to however they drive as usual.
In high school, a friend of mine sent out a group email with horrifying photos of a motorcycle wreck, no warning that they'd be pictures of people missing limbs and decapitations. She sent it as a precautionary tale to tell her friends that she disagrees with people riding motorcycles. None of us had motorcycles or were even thinking of buying one, so it was pointless and gross on so many levels. It's been 10 years or so and I still think about those pictures now and then. It sickens me that photos like that can 'leak' to the public.
@everythingsfree: the only way photos like that should ever be seen by the public is in a drivers education course, where there are checks and balances as to what goes into the curriculum.
i remember seeing the accident photos from my drivers ed class and the effect they had on me. they were also in a controlled, safe environment and the pictures weren't being sent to everybody's niece, nephew, grandma, what have you.
It seems like every damn day I get more information detailing how we are all doomed as a society. Really? How difficult is it for someone to put themselves into the family's position? Would YOU want photos of your child, your parent, your spouse, sent to you like that? Would you want a bunch of degraded, amoral jackasses with the empathic capacities of a praying mantis pronouncing judgment on your family? Then here's an idea: DON'T. FUCKING. DO. IT.
@goldengirl11 (is way too earnest): I meant sue the people sending the photos to her parents, not the dispatchers who released the photo. Though they should be fired.
This is really weird to see, I was just thinking about this story this morning. Some well-meaning relative sent these pictures and glurge-y write up of the story to me and all my cousins about a year ago. You'd have to be either criminally insane or the king of all assholes to send those photos to the girl's parents.
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One dark night of my soul, I posted something on the CL spirituality forum. While about 90% of the responses were great, there were some people who were just a*sholes to me. I'm like, "Why the hell are you trolling the spirituality forum? There's nothing on television?!!!"
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I just don't understand what sort of person would email those photos to the family though. You must be utterly without conscience.
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Criminal laws could be a very bad idea - as it could have a chilling effect on whistle-blowers - there's a fine line that requires careful definitions to be imposed.
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It's difficult to write about stories like this. Dodai is in the uncomfortable position of increasing the views of those photos by reporting on why we shouldn't be looking at them. Obviously, she can't control the reactions of her readers.
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It's really no excuse, I know. And it was probably one of the worst things I've seen.
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I also refuse to google tubgirl, but that's self-preservation more than anything else.
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The girls have NOTHING to do with the Internet because they're scared to accidentally see the pictures. There's nothing funny about it. I have no clue why anyone would use them for sick and disgusting "humor".
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If any of the sites posting the photos are also making money from ads, and are using the photos to generate web hits, couldn't that be considered using her likeness to make money?
I have no idea if any of the sites are, but if that arguement is even possible, that maybe could get some of the photos down.
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um, it's not a public service when you don't have approval from the dead's next of kin to circulate the photos.
a good friend of mine works for the local medical examiner, and the laws that surround releasing names of people who die are voluminous. the CHiP idiots who circulated the photo should be sued for other reasons since the stupid first judge threw out the case.
weird as it sounds, this whole thing makes me thing of the sexting phenomena. am i alone in this?
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In high school, a friend of mine sent out a group email with horrifying photos of a motorcycle wreck, no warning that they'd be pictures of people missing limbs and decapitations. She sent it as a precautionary tale to tell her friends that she disagrees with people riding motorcycles. None of us had motorcycles or were even thinking of buying one, so it was pointless and gross on so many levels. It's been 10 years or so and I still think about those pictures now and then. It sickens me that photos like that can 'leak' to the public.
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i remember seeing the accident photos from my drivers ed class and the effect they had on me. they were also in a controlled, safe environment and the pictures weren't being sent to everybody's niece, nephew, grandma, what have you.
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It seems like every damn day I get more information detailing how we are all doomed as a society. Really? How difficult is it for someone to put themselves into the family's position? Would YOU want photos of your child, your parent, your spouse, sent to you like that? Would you want a bunch of degraded, amoral jackasses with the empathic capacities of a praying mantis pronouncing judgment on your family? Then here's an idea: DON'T. FUCKING. DO. IT.
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