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HilliardTortoise
08/19/09

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If you guys say its barbaric then it must just be me. . I guess growing up as I did in a household where corporal punishment (not with canes but with belts, etc) has desensitized me to the whole physical violence as punishment. I know her caning will probably be worse than that, applied as it will be scientifically and by someone who knows what they are doing. I will say this, there is something cathartic to being punished physically...the guilt you feel about your actions get washed away with such a visceral form of punishment. Catholic flagellants were definitely on to something. Or they just got off on it, I guess.
I just wonder why she didn't appeal the ruling; does she feel like she deserves the punishment/education?

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formergr
08/19/09

@HilliardTortoise: I'm guessing maybe she was "advised" against appealing for fear of getting even a worse punishment. I'm pretty sure it's not because she feels she deserves the punishment.
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HilliardTortoise
08/19/09

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I read the article, and to be honest, it doesn't sound too bad and it really isn't a case of them being sexist. She kind of chose to take the caning when she could have appealed the ruling and most likely been let off with a fine.
5 lashes with a thinner cane than they use on men; maybe she figures she is tough enough to take it. I know it sounds barbaric, but it's not like they are using bullwhips. I bet there are some criminals here who would take the cane over spending time in prison.
On an aside, Malaysian law seems kind of fascinating. One court for Muslims and another court for non-muslims. The article said that in the non-muslims court, but statute, women, children, and men over the 50 can't be caned. So that's probably why women haven't been caned.
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Kirkat
08/19/09

@HilliardTortoise: Thinner canes cause more pain than thicker ones, they sting a whole lot more.
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colormeroutine
08/19/09

@Kirkat: The article actually says lighter, not thinner
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Kirkat
08/19/09

@colormeroutine: Fair enough, I was going on what Hilliard said.
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FlorenceDugdale
08/19/09

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Can't help but notice that with the exception of the one other female on the platform, all the "audience" members are men. Shit is effed.
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happiness is a warm gun
08/19/09

@FlorenceDugdale: Maybe the men in the audience are unemployed. Maybe the women were too busy doing something productive?
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formergr
08/19/09

@happiness is a warm gun: I know very little about Malaysia so am purely guessing, but I wonder if women are even allowed to attend these "events"?
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hypocriteoath
08/19/09

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Is the caner blindfolded? because that woman is NOT a pinata even if they want to treat her like one. I hate to judge other cultures that I don't fully know but... wow, this just seems a little extreme to me.
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daria-says-what
08/19/09

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Why invoke the caning law now, when in the past, a fine has been the status quo, according to the article? It seems less likely that this woman's offense was somehow worse than usual, and more likely that they are making an example out of a young woman who chose to model, drink, and go to nightclubs. So I guess by "educating women", they mean put in their place...
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Penny
08/19/09

@daria-says-what: Apparently we can't promote new commenters anymore, but.....I like what you're saying.
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CurtCole
08/19/09

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I am equally disturbed by all of the assholes that lined up to watch.
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AuntieBee
08/19/09

@CurtCole: Well, in fairness, we don't know that they are all there watching and taking pictures in glee or even support. The strongest images out of the Iran protests were taking by people in the crowd; I am letting myself believe that at least some of the people holding up their cameras are planning to blog angrily about it later.
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Penny
08/19/09

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Would a man be caned for the same offense? Genuinely curious.
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Zombies make the heart grow fonder
08/19/09

@Penny: I think so. I mean that kid was caned for graffitti back in the 90s? I think caning is just like the standard in Malaysia. I could be wrong though. Maybe a woman drinking is more serious to them?
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cocktail bun
08/19/09

@Zombies make the heart grow fonder: That case in the 90s was actually in Singapore, not Malaysia.
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Trulymadlyme
08/19/09

@Zombies make the heart grow fonder: That was Singapore. In theory, yes, a guy would be caned. But in reality? Doubtful.
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Zombies make the heart grow fonder
08/19/09

@cocktail bun: Ah my mistake. I was pretty young when it happened so I couldn't remember.
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funzette
08/19/09

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it really sucks when people in a country think they can legislate their moral views on people who don't feel the same way.

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Zombies make the heart grow fonder
08/19/09

@funzette: ha I see what you did there. Nice.
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LizzieBennet-Darcy
08/19/09

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The fact that people are taking pictures of this is really bothering me...I don't think they're part of the media.
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Penny
08/19/09

@LizzieBennet-Darcy: I think that's a safe assumption. Takes you back to Roman times. Amazing how little the human race changes.
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Zombies make the heart grow fonder
08/19/09

@Penny: Next week I will be holding public lion fights with Gladiators.
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wtfox?!
08/19/09

@Penny: Or even the 19th century when people were still punished in the town square and got to enjoy a little humiliation and abuse from the public on top of corporal punishment. Go, human species!
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