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pesematology
12/09/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
Nice to know that being six feet tall makes you immune to weight gain?
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AndPreciousLittleofThat
12/09/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
Oh man. I always wondered what it was Charlton Heston felt like at the end of "Planet of The Apes."

After reading that item about Jessica Simpson and Billy Corrigan, now I know.
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Eleanor Ramilly
12/08/09

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Jessica's friends have the problem? No. I have the problem.
Attack me if you want for gettin' all serious about this... but Billy Corgan cannot date Jessica Simpson. He cannot, or worlds will explode and nothing- nothing, ladies and gentlemen, makes sense.
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Wonder4A
12/09/09

@Eleanor Ramilly: No one will attack you for getting serious. This IS serious. My brain just exploded. I'm pretty sure the universe should be collapsing on itself momentarily. Say goodbye to your loved ones.
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WagaMama
12/09/09

@Eleanor Ramilly: Please, he just finished dating some weather girl here in L.A. (Her name's Jackie Johnson if you want to Google her.) He seems like one of those sensitive, arty guys who secretly yearns to nail the prom queen, honestly.
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kildavimes
12/09/09

@Eleanor Ramilly: Thank you for saying this. i was dumb-struck. I know i shouldn't be that bitchy, but REALLY???? Billy Corgan?!! (that thud you hear is my teenhood idol cracking.....
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John Thompson
12/09/09

@kildavimes: You weren't around when he was dating Tila Tequila? Or Sasha Grey? Those things happened.

Sasha Grey was way too good for him, in my opinion.
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Eleanor Ramilly
12/09/09

@John Thompson: *plugs ears* lalala.. can't hear you..
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Sputnik_Sweetheart
12/08/09

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No, Dennis, I don't expect you to do it because I barely remember who you are.
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hughman
12/08/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
i would never in a million years have pictured Susan Sarandon as the grandmother in Lovely Bones. i was always thinking an Elaine Stritch type.

god i hope this movie doesn't ruin the book.
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Phyllis Nefler
12/08/09

@hughman: I actually saw a sneak preveiw of The Lovely Bones back in April. It was very good. It was beautifully filmed and Stanley Tucci's performance is chilling. I will see it again when it comes out.

I admit I haven't read the book, but there were people in the audience had and they felt the spirit of the book was maintained.
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hughman
12/09/09

@Phyllis Nefler: thanks for the heads up. read the book, i loved it.
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midwesternmom
12/08/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
Any UK Jezzies can correct me on this, but didn't Bob Geldof end up with custody of his ex-wife's daughter by Michael Hutchence? Kinda odd to be slamming family court when it was rather lenient on his claim to that child.
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TransFat
12/08/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
Ah hoodrat. Haven't seen that term in awhile. Thanks Dennis for reminding me how creative misogyny can be.
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Tchotchke
12/08/09

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I'm listening to Gish in memorial.
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HannahBethD
12/08/09

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I'm so conflicted!!! I mean, Billy Corgan's music kept my teenage self from shuffling free of the mortal coil. But then Tila and the weird solo album and firing Jimmy and now this?

I just, I, I don't know anymore!
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NellMood
12/08/09

@HannahBethD: I just pretend it's not really him and it's some kind of impostor. In my mind Billy Corgan lives in 1994 and hasn't gone forward in time.
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HannahBethD
12/08/09

@NellMood: I shall join you in this magical land.
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clementina
12/08/09

@NellMood: She's actually dating Willy Corgan. I checked.
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Anne Boleyn
12/08/09

@HannahBethD: I am writing it off as his version of a mid-life crisis. He probably watches videos of himself from 1994 and cries for what he's lost. Just like us :(
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jenivere
12/08/09

@HannahBethD: Can I come too? I like pretending that he still has hair and hasn't met Courtney Love yet.
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HannahBethD
12/08/09

@Anne Boleyn: This, might actually be true. He is of an age.
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HannahBethD
12/08/09

@jenivere: YES! We will listen to Siamese Dream (though that was post-Courtney, I dont think we're getting away from the harpy) and think of happy times!
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Andalucía
12/08/09

@HannahBethD: I honestly can't listen to Smashing Pumpkins anymore. No lie. When I read about him being with Tila Tequila, I actually gasped outloud at work. I felt like a teen betrayed (Batshit, I know!).

So Jessica Simpson is now just overkill.
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HannahBethD
12/08/09

@Andalucía: I only drag it out when I'm having serious crisis. Otherwise, I can't really listen to it.
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unmoldednicole
12/08/09

@HannahBethD: As a former music snob I have to say that if there is anything I have learned as an adult it as that our youthful perception of music being the salvation of all that is real, unpretentious and holy was pretty ridiculous. At the TIME Corgan (and music) was incredibly significant, but at this point... it doesn't matter. Just enjoy what you can.
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thefragile
12/08/09

@HannahBethD: I met him a few years ago and it totally shattered my perception of him. It was a really awful experience for me. :(
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IceCreamIsAwesome
12/08/09

@thefragile: Details darling, details!
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thefragile
12/08/09

@IceCreamIsAwesome: Well, it was around the time that he released Blinking With Fists. I waited about 3 hours in the freezing cold to get my copy signed (which I'd forgotten at home and had to buy another of..). He was pleasant enough then, but then again I was so star struck that I could barely function.

I'm not the fan-girly type for the most part, but that day I was!

After the signing was over, he was supposed to do a poetry reading at a nearby church. My friend and I couldn't get tickets online because they sold out in 2 minutes flat or something, but we decided to head over there to try and weasel our way in somehow.

After another 3ish hours trying to get tickets (which were being scalped for upwards of $250 when the original ticket price was $25), we just about gave up since he was about to go on. Just as we decided to call it a night, one of the bouncers called us over. He said he felt bad for us for being out there for so long and that he'd let us in the back way for $25 each.

We snuck in quietly (just in time) and what I saw was one of the most magnificent things I've ever seen. Along with singer Yungchen Lhamo, Billy read from his book and added very personal anecdotes in one of the most beautiful churches I've ever seen.

After it was over the audience was invited up to the front to talk to Billy. In a daze, my friend and I wandered up and I found myself standing almost on top of his feet. People behind us were pushing and yelling and being obnoxious which he clearly wasn't excited about.

I tried to say something witty about him getting everyone all riled up and he just glared at me and made some comment about how he didn't really want to be there. Maybe he was just having a bad day, but it really broke my heart.

TL;DR version: I bought Mellon Collie the day it came out when I was 10 years old and fell in love with the Billy that came through in the songs. I suppose I set myself up for a bit of a disappointment that way. Looking back on it, I should have known better. I'm still glad it all happened because it was one magical evening.
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TheFormerJuneBronson
12/08/09

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Jessica, please. I know things are tight with the college admissions because of the economy and whatnot, and it's true you're not eighteen anymore, but let me help you. I've been assured there's a good, working brain in that head of yours. I can find you a nice, welcoming college where they will teach you about the world. The actual world. The one the rest of us live in. It's good here, seriously! We even get laid and get married. Honest to God. Plus critical thinking and self-respect, and maybe some intramural sports. I can help you. Or your posse. Listen to them. They are steering you right for once.
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Evie Havok
12/08/09

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I thought Nicole Kidman was 5'10''. IMDB lied to me?
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Triana Orpheus
12/08/09

@Evie Havok: I vary between saying 5'11" and six feet depending on whether it will help my case to appear taller or shorter.
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odinsraven
12/08/09

@Evie Havok: I have bumped into her in a hallway. If she's over 5'10" I will eat my hat.
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jigglyball
12/08/09

@odinsraven: I've run into her, too, and she seems about my height, which is 5'10".
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badmutha
12/09/09

@jigglyball: Where in the hell do you have to be to "bump into" Nicole Kidman?
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jigglyball
12/09/09

@badmutha: Haha, in my experience, at Green Hills Bread & Co. in Nashville on weekend mornings. She and Keith moved to Nashville when I was in school there, and they showed up all over the place- Rite Aid, the gym, restaurants, my favorite omelette spot, etc. They definitely didn't hide.
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Hooplehead
12/08/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
Viggo speaks the truth. Much as it scares me.
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Le Kangourou de Kataroo
12/08/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
Don't worry, Jess. My grandma told me a couple Christmases ago that she doesn't even bother trying to remember the names of the guys I'm dating because "there's just too many of them." Once your grandma calls you a whore in front of your entire family at Christmas dinner, there's not really anywhere else to go.
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SwirlGirl
12/08/09

@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: And then, of course, when not dating anyone, the family latches on to that as well. From whore to barren spinster in one easy step. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Nun Shall Pass
12/08/09

@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: :cringe:

That's awful! If it makes you feel any better, my stepfather likes to pretend to do that with my boyfriends' names too. Except I've been dating the same guy for over two years now so it's reeeeally awkward...
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Le Kangourou de Kataroo
12/08/09

@Nun Shall Pass: I've been dating my dude for a year on Saturday, and I'm afraid when I go home THIS Christmas I'm going to get bombarded with "So when are we going to meet the lucky guy?"
NEVER, GRANDMA. NEVER. The rest of the family? They can meet him whenever - they'll love him. You? You'll just ask me what happened to that nice Air Force boy I was dating or the nice military boy Skip who came over and fixed the light that one time. And comment on his earrings. And tell him he's too skinny and needs to eat.

I love my grandma, but at least there's ONE benefit of living 1,000 miles away...
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ravella_the_river_boat_queen
12/08/09

@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: My grandma, after regailing me with stories of my cousin meeting her future husband at church, said to me, "maybe now you'll start going to church again." This was at Thanksgiving, right after she said to me in a very concerned voice, "are you sure you're watching your weight?"

I hate explaining to Grandma why, in fact, I am neither watching my weight, nor going to church to meet men.

I think we can chalk this up to a generational gap (or whatever excuse gets you through family time.)
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badmutha
12/09/09

@ravella_the_river_boat_queen: Dude, are we cousins? Because this is exactly the way I was treated. And asked relentlessly about my sexual orientation, my dating habits, and why I never dated nice boys.
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morninggloria
12/08/09

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Jessica Simpson has crossed the line from "star" to "starfucker."
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LaComtesse
12/08/09

In reply to Jess Is "Smitten" With Billy Corgan; Viggo Warns Palin's "Not Going Away"
Jessica: Is this chicken or fish?

Billy: It's a Grammy, you idiot. Don't touch it. Why did I even bring you over here?

Jessica: I'm about 15 years your junior and hot and you're a shallow musician who pretends to go for substance but really just wants a hot blond?

Billy: Oh yeah. You're smarter than you look!
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Tippi Hedren
12/08/09

@LaComtesse: Painfully accurate analysis at work here...
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JerkoftheMonth
12/08/09

Jessica: Is this chicken or fish?

Billy: It's a Grammy, you idiot. Don't touch it. Why did I even bring you over here?

It's funny cuz it's true. Hehehe.
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Tchotchke
12/08/09

@LaComtesse: Ok, seriously. I am being really, really earnest when I ask this, but: What the hell could the two of them have to talk about?

I mean, they are so diametrically opposed, and that my brain is melting as I attempt to answer this question.
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LaComtesse
12/08/09

@Tchotchke: Hmmm... a worthy question. I mean, talking about how much more popular you both used to be can only carry you through the first couple dates.
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