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    Image of JLady JLady
    12/15/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    I love Alice Munro. Love love love her.

    I would add Hooked by Carolyn Smart to this list. Smart is a Canadian poet and her latest book (just released last spring I think) is amazing. I saw her read earlier in the fall, and her poems about women consumed and, ultimately destroyed by their passions is amazing. She writes about real women (Zelda Fitzgerald, Myra Hindley, Jane Auer Bowles and five others) and gives them incredible voices.

    I would also recommend Autobiography of Red by Anne Carson. It totally blew my mind. It's a novel written in verse that reimagines the Greek myth of Geryon. Oh my God, the language is gorgeous, the emotions are so tangible and the setting is everywhere and nowhere at once. Amazing.
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    12/15/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    I love all those books up there, and wish I'd come to this discussion earlier today. I'd recommend Alison Bechdel's new book, too- Dykes to Watch Out For.

    Also to add to the list, Maile Meloy's Both Ways is the Only Way I Want it (which just got some nice attention in the new york times book review) was amazing, and I can't push Antonya Nelson enough- her short stories are incredible.
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    Image of amowls amowls
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    THE HISTORY OF LOVE by Nicole Krauss should be there.
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    Image of tiredfairy tiredfairy
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    For those who love graphic novels (and honestly, there isn't a better term for them, since "comics" conjures up the strip kind or spandex) I also heartily recommend anything and everything Jill Thompson has ever touched. Right now she's doing Beasts of Burden over at Dark Horse. But she's also done Scary Godmother, Death: At Death's Door (digest sized), The Sandman: Brief Lives, and does an awesome line of kids books called Magic Trixie. Her art is tremendous.

    Also, other gn's by women:

    The War at Ellsmere by Faith Erin Hicks, who also did the great Zombies Calling.

    Air, by G. Willow Wilson

    There's Julia Wertz who does Fart Party, Lynda Barry, Colleen Doran, Colleen Coover (she does AWESOME girl friendly porn comics, stuff for Marvel, and Banana Sunday which has monkeys!)

    And other books that are just great with awesome female characters:
    Scott Pilgrim
    Lenore
    Strangers in Paradise (this is well known as one the best stories about two women ever, and realistically drawn!)
    Fables
    Lucifer (Elaine Belloc is my favorite little half angel ever)
    Promethea
    Wet Moon (Ross Campbell is sooo awesome, and draws the most diverse female characters anywhere)

    And lots, lots, lots more.
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    I'd also like to recommend a Japanese female suspense writer: Natsuo Kirino. She has in translation "Out", "Grotesque" and "Real World".

    They are very, very odd.
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    12/15/09

    @Tart of Darkness: I recently read 'Out' and it was truly odd, but also pretty amazing.
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    12/15/09

    @pinupgirl: Isn't it? One of the things I loved about it is the view of Japanese culture and women's issues through the eyes of a Japanese woman and not originally written for a western audience.
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    12/15/09

    @Tart of Darkness: I liked it for the portrayal of and conversation about friendship among women as well, it is just an interesting book all round.

    I also thought that the main character was so very interesting, I mean, the whole affair was just so very businesslike to her. Very fascinating.
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    12/15/09

    @pinupgirl: Wasn't she interesting? She was so strong and matter of fact, but then she had that sizzle of attraction to the bad guy, too.
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    12/15/09

    @Tart of Darkness: I found myself so drawn to her, and caring so much for her. Her life seemed to be so ... empty, her marriage and family was just so sad and strange. I mean, I couldn't imagine that level of disconnect in my life, and so I found myself wanting things to be so much better for her. I liked her relationship with her 'business partner', it seemed to wake something inside of her, exactly what you said - the sizzle.

    But the ending just blew me away!

    You said that you have read other books by the author, are they as good and layered?
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    12/16/09

    @pinupgirl: Not as much. But I did like "Grotesque" and I confess I've only read it once. I usually have to read most good books a couple of times to really enjoy them. "Grotesque" was creepier but not as deep.
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    12/17/09

    @Tart of Darkness: Hmm, I'll have to look for more of her books. I stumbled upon 'Out' by accident at B&N.
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    Image of RStewie RStewie
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    Sunshine, Robin McKinley
    She is teh awesomesauce to me. I love all her books, and this is an annual re-read for me.

    Also, second Jacqueline Carey, who is mentioned below. I love all her books, too.
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    Image of SlayBelle SlayBelle
    12/14/09

    @RStewie: I love McKinley and recommend 'The Hero and Crown' to everyone and anyone to read. But I just could not get into Sunshine. I've tried 3 times and just.. never get past the initial part where she's chained up. Does it get better? Do I go for try 4?
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    Image of Ipomoea Ipomoea
    12/14/09

    @SlayBelle: Oh my gosh, it gets SO MUCH BETTER. Sunshine is so wonderful, and what I'm giving to all my family members who are riding the Twilight fever, to shake them out of the sparklevamp haze.
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    Image of I believe in peace, bitch I believe in peace, bitch
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    Thanks Anna for some great ones.

    My two cents is The Painted Drum by Louise Erdrich. I'd known of her for years but finally got around to reading this one. It is simply the most beautiful book I've ever read. It's like beautiful food fed to you in small morsels, all of it nourishing to your soul. Now I regret going 28 years without Erdrich. Just read it.
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    12/15/09

    @I believe in peace, bitch: Have you read her other work yet? I read several of her book in a row a couple of years ago and loooove her.
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    12/15/09

    @NellMood: I'm going to start Love Medicine soon. Which do you recommend?
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    12/15/09

    @I believe in peace, bitch: Definitely Love Medicine, and then the ones that follow- The Beet Queen and Tracks. I also really like Four Souls, which came out a couple of years ago. They're all great, though.
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    Image of ZoharG ZoharG
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    I had kind of a hard time with Fun Home. she drew many comparisons between her own life and the characters/plot of The Great Gatsby. having never read The Great Gatsby, these parts were totally lost to me. there were times where i felt like i needed a degree in literature in order to really understand what was going on.

    that being said, her descriptions of her experiences with OCD when she was younger were the first time i'd heard someone talk about it so candidly, and the first time i realized i had it, too. so i guess it did have a great effect on me in some way.
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    12/14/09

    @ZoharG: It doesn't take long to read "Gatsby" so you might take it in and then reread "Fun Home". My difficulty with it is her references to Joyce because one really can't say it's quick or easy to read "Portrait of an Artist" and "Ulysses". But I loved "Fun Home" anyway.
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    Image of lsmelcher lsmelcher
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    We Need to Talk About Kevin should definitely be on this list.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    12/14/09

    @lsmelcher: Seconded.
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    Image of silentseas silentseas
    12/14/09

    @lsmelcher: Lord, that book broke me.
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    12/14/09

    @silentseas: I've read this book a million times and it still gets to me. It's a great.
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    Image of EhhKinda EhhKinda
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    Fun Home was so good. I passed it along to two friends who also loved it. It's also a good book for folks who've never picked up a graphic novel and who had no interest in the genre before.
    But! I haven't been able to find any other similar graphic novels in my local bookstores. I'm thinking Ariel Schrag and Michelle Tea here. I mean, I could order from Amazon but there's something fun about going to the bookstore, flipping through the book and then bringing it home.

    More importantly, anything by Lorrie Moore. Anything she has put on a page. She's phenomenal. So is Miranda July's book, No One Belongs Here More Than You.
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    12/14/09

    @EhhKinda: I was surprised by how much I liked Miranda July's book. Sometimes I think she can be aggressively quirky, to the point where it seems forced, but those stories managed to be quirky and yet poignant and sweet and honest.
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    12/14/09

    @whynotshesaid: Aggressively quirky... I can totally see that. I thought her book was going to be cool, like artsy-cool or something, but I ended up being moved. I didn't expect that. I even dog-eared pages and underlined paragraphs. It was out of control.
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    Image of alixana alixana
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    My taste in books is very different from the OP, so I'll add some I really enjoyed from the '00s:

    Tana French wrote two really kickass police mysteries - In The Woods and The Likeness. They had me totally captivated; I felt like I was taken somewhere else whenever I opened the pages.

    Cherie Priest wrote some great gothic ghost story trilogy with a great female main character, and she's started a steampunk trilogy (off the top of my head, I can't think of any other steampunk books I've read by a female author).

    Gillian Flynn wrote two creepy mysteries - Sharp Objects and Dark Places. I really enjoyed these because her main characters aren't shiny, happy women.

    Carol Goodman wrote 6 books starting in 2002, all about women who investigate mysteries from the past. They all follow a similar pattern, but the settings and characters are all very different.

    Susanna Clarke wrote the beautiful Victorian fantasy book Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell.
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    Image of LBB LBB
    12/14/09

    @alixana: Seconding (thirding?) Tana French. And I would list all the awesome female YA/urban fantasy authors I read but we'd be here all day. :)
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    12/14/09

    @alixana: I just finished Cherie Priest's Boneshaker. Multiple multi-dimensional and strong female characters, mixed-up history, airships, and zombies. I'm desperately trying to find a friend to buy a copy for Christmas, I want to share it with everyone.
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    Image of Mireille is German for the Bart, the. Mireille is German for the Bart, the.
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    I would just like to add Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke (2004). If you're a fan of Neil Gaiman type fantasy, this is an incredible book. The first 300 or so pages were a little slow going, but the last 500 are riveting, I couldn't put it down. Historical fiction where magic, and two magicians in particular, helped England defeat Napoleon. So many side stories explored to varying degrees and so much history behind it, I would say it rivals Lord of the Rings for creating a feeling of place and time. Probably my favorite book of this decade.
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    Image of LadyFabulous LadyFabulous
    12/14/09

    @Mireille is German for the Bart, the.: This is still sitting on my shelf after my second attempt. Maybe it's because I've gotten bogged down during the first 300 pages, but I haven't been able to get passed that. I may attempt it again.
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    Image of LuvEwan LuvEwan
    12/14/09

    @LadyFabulous: I'm in the same boat. But I haven't put it out at a yard sale yet, so there's still hope.
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    12/14/09

    @LadyFabulous: I have the same problem as you do...a tough slog through the first 300 pages to reach the mesmerizing last 500 isn't my idea of enjoyment. I also couldn't get interested in "The Thirteenth Tale".
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    Image of LadyFabulous LadyFabulous
    12/15/09

    @Tart of Darkness: Damn... That one is next in my book cue! (Unless I forgo the cue and get the rest of the Outlander series and devour them before continuing on tackling my Tower of Unread Books.)
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    12/15/09

    @LadyFabulous: Don't let me discourage you, though. My daughter and husband both loved it.
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    I'm going to check out the five books on this list I haven't read. Thanks for the recs.

    That said, out of the three I did read, I was kind of underwhelmed by two of them. With Veronica, I just had an overwhelming sense of numbness while reading it. Everyone just seemed so emotionally anesthetized. I loved the prose, but I had a hard time connecting to the characters. Maybe that was the point, to illustrate a deeply atomized world where most people existed almost entirely on the surface.

    The other one, Rent Girl, I liked because of the drawings, and some of the writing - particularly the whole equivalence of "I love to give women pleasure" with Sting's 90s music - was great, but on the whole, I find Michelle Tea to be very mediocre. it hurts me to say that, as she's a queer feminist punk riot grrrl type, and I tend to love women like her, but much of her writing reads like a bad teen-girl perzine.

    And now I feel like such a mean hater. :( I did love Fun Home a whole, whole bunch, though!
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    12/14/09

    @whynotshesaid: Yeah, every time I noticed a typo in Rent Girl I had to roll my eyes a little, like "Come on, we know this is an actual book and not a flourpasted zine. Leaving the typos in isn't fooling anyone."

    But she manages to come across as authentic despite the disingenuous touches somehow.
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    12/14/09

    @jk-47: I agree about her authenticity, but even so, I feel like oftentimes I am reading a first or second draft when I pick up her books. So much more could be done, and yet it isn't.
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    Image of inshallah123 inshallah123
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    How about Towelhead, by Alicia Erian? And no love for Prep?
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    12/14/09

    @inshallah123: And what about American Wife? Both of Sittenfeld's books had their issues but they were way minor in comparison to their loveliness.
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    12/14/09

    @inshallah123: I hated Prep.
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    12/14/09

    @whynotshesaid: I love American Wife. I think it is one of the best ever. I also liked Prep and feel I need to mention her middle book, "The Man of My Dreams" which is different from the other two but very moving.
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    12/14/09

    @katherose: Because?
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    12/14/09

    @katherose: I expected to hate it for my own snobby literary reasons, and ended up loving it. It seemed to capture the rhythms of socially awkward/self-conscious thought better than almost anything I've read.
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    Image of maude_flanders maude_flanders
    12/14/09

    @inshallah123: Both books got under my skin ("Prep" because I immediately identified with Lee, for good and for ill...and with Jasira, too). "Towelhead" was made into a movie recently (shame, Alan Ball got of dropped the ball, despite the best efforts of the cast...I think that's one of those books that is lost in translation when put into film, at least without the protagonist's narration or i/something/i to inject the tone of the book effectively in to the movie). "Prep" will be made into a movie too.
    Sittnefeld's "Man of My Dreams" was similarly good...I think Hannah ("Dreams'" heroine) is a version of Lee that's grown up and with a little perspective; both were immediately relateable (for me, anyway).

    I know Tom Perrotta is a man, but I think "Little Children" was the last book I read that stayed with me for a long time afterward.
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    Image of LoSpaz LoSpaz
    12/14/09

    In reply to 8 Awesome Books By Women: An '00s Virtual Bookshelf
    I logged right onto my library's web site and placed holds on all of these. Thanks, Anna.
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