I think it most likely was the implants. Why else would she tumble from 6 inch stiletto heels? You just have to look for the simplest reason, and usually that means boobs. #itsjustlogical
@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: Sooo...implants are ok, but those silicone falsies you stick in your bra are a fail? How did that conversation go? "MADAM! If you are going to be fake BE FAKE. Don't be a fake about BEING a fake!" #alexandrahorvath
@GreyCat: That quote was explaining that this pageant is because women with plastic surgery are disqualified from other pageants in Hungary. They meant they were kicked out of regular beauty pageants for having implants. #alexandrahorvath
@Lymed: I know, I actually read the article, but I stand by my point that accepting one kind of fakeness while disqualifying another is ridiculous. #alexandrahorvath
I don't really think implants are the end of the world or our culture or anything, but their average size increasing is weird to me.
Like, so I'm an A cup. I actually really like that. But I can understand (some days more than others) why some women who are "small" feel compelled to get theirs enbiggened, as it were.
But I look down at myself and I think, "sure, full B, if anything, would work out down there." I can't fathom going so much drastically bigger (even to a C, I feel, would be drastic on me); it would render my entire wardrobe useless and also look disproportionate (based on what I'm used to seeing, not based on my actual body shape, I think).
Is this really a surprise? It seems kind of inevitable, as the more common implants become, the more skewed our ideas will be of what a natural size is, and the idea of what constitutes big will keep increasing.
For instance, while I do sympathize with anyone who dislikes her body, a lot of women I know who say their breasts are unnaturally small or out of proportion are built the way women have been built for centuries. Sometimes that's small everywhere, sometimes it's small on top and large on the bottom. There's nothing abnormal about it, what's abnormal is our current expectation that all women have ample, firm breasts. I absolutely understand how that shitty that contrast feels for many women. But this is why many people don't care for implants - because they reinforce an unrealistic "norm."
As someone with a big chest, I hear a lot of bitterness and anger and envy from other women, whether it's because they're sagging, small, etc, so I understand how painful this issue can be for some people. It's definitely not simple vanity. But I can't help but wonder what the future is - will all real breasts look substandard and unsexy if implants become the only acceptable look? It's not enough to say "well some people like small boobs." Implants aren't just about size, they're about symmetry, shape, firmness, etc - basically, achieving an effect rarely found for long in nature, if found at all.
@Pantra: I agree. I think the prevalence of implants in Hollywood and in magazines has distorted our idea of what natural breasts look like. We so rarely see natural ones uncovered, we forget they aren't all perky, round, and symmetrical.
@Pantra: I think most real breasts already look substandard according to the norms of society.
Show a group of 20 something men some images of non-surgically enhanced women and see what the comments are, can't imagine they'd be too positive when to most men the "standard" is a full, "perky", half melon shaped implant.
This reminds me of every single episode of "Doctor 90210" because the consultation to surgery process always followed the same arch: Woman says she wants a "modest C," doctor agrees because she is thin and petite; surgery day rolls around and she decides she wants to upgrade to a full D.
I was always amazed by how every woman wanted to go very large, even if she was tiny. Most of those women looked fine post-surgery, but I didn't understand the need for huge, slightly disproportionate boobs. I'm very petite and skinny, but have large breasts. Ideally, I wish I was smaller-chest because my breasts would look perfectly lovely on someone 6" taller, but on my frame, they are pretty obvious and seem to invite unwanted attention. I wonder if it's a matter of cultural pressures, the relatively homogenized standard of beauty in Los Angeles or something else. I can't comment on the UK because I'm not intimately aquainted with their cosmetic industry and culture of beauty.
@Tchotchke: (Sorry for the double-post!) But to clarify, I completely understand and support why a woman would choose to get breast implants. I am just marvelling at how the demand seems to be for increasingly larger implants.
@Tchotchke: Some of the reasons are a. the clients want to get their money's worth, and b. when reading stories of people who had them done, most say they wish they had gone one size bigger.
@thePrototype: Yes, but in my mind, getting your money's worth means having an uncomplicated surgery experience, a professional, capable surgeon, minimal scarring, and well-placed implants. Size doesn't factor into that. Hence, my difficulty in understanding the compulsion to get very large, (possibly) ill-proportioned breasts.
@Tchotchke: If you go to a quality surgeon they will not put in larger implants than your skin can handle. That being said, they do not necessarily know how big is too big before they go in, so as the client they can ballpark it beforehand, but you never really know how big you are going to be until afterwards. That is why it is very important to use the services of a board certified plastic surgeon that has a lot of referrals and a large portfolio of work done.
Look, I have giant boobs (and some of the attendant bra woes/ backaches) too, but all of these "I just don't get what would make a woman get implants!!" comments are mildly ridiculous. I get it. You get it too. We might disagree with the choice or hate the pressures put on women to feel like fitting into a cultural ideal is important enough to carve up their torsos, but we certainly do understand why. Sorry if this seems testy, but after last night's reality show thread and now this one, c'mon ladies. It is weird and unnecessary that any breast implant thread must devolve into a bra size contest.
@yvanehtnioj: THANK YOU. Some of these threads break down into the equivalent of listening to your two co-workers who are dieting discuss their eating and exercising regimen. I usually ignore those and scan through for anything funny and insightful, but I'm glad someone else sees the big bra size debate as really trite.
@yvanehtnioj: I find these postings end up being similar to the good hair/bad hair threads where non-black people start talking about their curly/straight hair and trying to project their own insecurities and misinformation on the subject at hand.
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Two of the 20 finalists had previously been thrown out of pageants after judges found they had false boobs.
False boobs? #journalismfail #alexandrahorvath
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Of course not! Women can naturally balance in stilettos, but can't easily support the weight of a large bosom. It's science.
What? #alexandrahorvath
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Like, so I'm an A cup. I actually really like that. But I can understand (some days more than others) why some women who are "small" feel compelled to get theirs enbiggened, as it were.
But I look down at myself and I think, "sure, full B, if anything, would work out down there." I can't fathom going so much drastically bigger (even to a C, I feel, would be drastic on me); it would render my entire wardrobe useless and also look disproportionate (based on what I'm used to seeing, not based on my actual body shape, I think).
I thought people were afraid of drastic change!
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For instance, while I do sympathize with anyone who dislikes her body, a lot of women I know who say their breasts are unnaturally small or out of proportion are built the way women have been built for centuries. Sometimes that's small everywhere, sometimes it's small on top and large on the bottom. There's nothing abnormal about it, what's abnormal is our current expectation that all women have ample, firm breasts. I absolutely understand how that shitty that contrast feels for many women. But this is why many people don't care for implants - because they reinforce an unrealistic "norm."
As someone with a big chest, I hear a lot of bitterness and anger and envy from other women, whether it's because they're sagging, small, etc, so I understand how painful this issue can be for some people. It's definitely not simple vanity. But I can't help but wonder what the future is - will all real breasts look substandard and unsexy if implants become the only acceptable look? It's not enough to say "well some people like small boobs." Implants aren't just about size, they're about symmetry, shape, firmness, etc - basically, achieving an effect rarely found for long in nature, if found at all.
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Show a group of 20 something men some images of non-surgically enhanced women and see what the comments are, can't imagine they'd be too positive when to most men the "standard" is a full, "perky", half melon shaped implant.
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I was always amazed by how every woman wanted to go very large, even if she was tiny. Most of those women looked fine post-surgery, but I didn't understand the need for huge, slightly disproportionate boobs. I'm very petite and skinny, but have large breasts. Ideally, I wish I was smaller-chest because my breasts would look perfectly lovely on someone 6" taller, but on my frame, they are pretty obvious and seem to invite unwanted attention. I wonder if it's a matter of cultural pressures, the relatively homogenized standard of beauty in Los Angeles or something else. I can't comment on the UK because I'm not intimately aquainted with their cosmetic industry and culture of beauty.
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