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    The Oppression Olympics

    Bob Herbert: "The Barbaric Treatment Of Women And Girls Has Come To Be More Or Less Expected"

    Dick Armey Insults Salon Editor, Lives Up To His Name On Hardball

    Geraldine Ferraro: You = What The Media Needs To Start Ignoring

    It Was A Nice Day For A White Voter

    Prostitution Prosecution

    Bob Herbert And Barbara Ehrenreich: We Are Feeling The Love
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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    Whether he likes or not Bob Herbert gives me a lady boner.
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    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    Guys, I think I might have found something to explain the article. According to Wikipedia (aka the source of all knowledge):
    Applebaum is an adjunct fellow at the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank
    Who else is a fellow at AEI? Newt Gingrich. I do believe they have been drinking from same pool of misinformation!!
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    08/10/09

    @dianersb was bit by a zombie: Big shocker. Thats basically the conservatives argument against feminism in a nutshell, hey what are you complaining about? it could be like (insert third world country)!
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    08/10/09

    @bluebears: Also: "I'm glad you're not my wife!"
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    Image of thesciencegirl thesciencegirl
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics

    I find their choice of image accompanying the article to be really interesting. Are they implying that criticizing our nation's failings is unpatriotic?
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    08/10/09

    @thesciencegirl: I interpreted it as gentle mockery. I've never seen the term 'wrapped in the flag" to imply anything other than inappropriate conflation of criticism and patriotism.
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    Image of LutherNipperkin LutherNipperkin
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    And black people should shut up about racisim because they're not slaves anymore, right? "It could be worse" doesn't keep me from saying "It should be better."
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    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    I'm having a hard time understanding the objective of Double X. What Women Really Think? Really?
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    08/10/09

    @bluebears: You must agree with them - you are a women after all, right?
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    Image of bluebears bluebears
    08/10/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: I didn't think I shared that sentiment but apparently I do. Huh. I feel all edumacated now.
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    08/10/09

    @bluebears: I know. This is the second time I've seen them come with the thinly disguised internalized-misogynist crazy (and/or just plain old competitive sniping).
    One more strike and they're out, IMO.
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    Image of dianersb was bit by a zombie dianersb was bit by a zombie
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    Anne dahling, after this little article I'm going to have to insist that you stick to writing about the GULAG. Because right now you need to STFU.
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    Image of lizdexia lizdexia
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    Is it bad that I sometimes agree with sentiment? I mean, yes, being the object of catcalling, filthy comments and other delightful behavior while walking down the street is irritating as hell, and definitely the product of mysogyny (and incredibly poor manners). And while we certainly have a right to object to that nonesense, I do sometimes feel guilty for being upset by it. Women in Saudi Arabia and the Congo have to address legally enshrined discrimination and rape as a tool of war, and I'm going to bitch because some man made a filty comments?
    Of course I understand that we should be expecting people to conform to a morality higher than that of "at least we let you drive and don't rape all women all the time" but I can't help but feel that the fact I can even bitch about being treated badly is a product of western privilege.
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    Image of thesciencegirl thesciencegirl
    08/10/09

    @lizdexia: Those behaviors all stem from the same problem. I hate the argument that a "minor" act of prejudice somehow threatens "real" fill-in-the-blank-ism. It's not as though we can only fight one battle.
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    08/10/09

    @lizdexia: True. But however mild or atrocious the behavior manifests, its all coming from the same place when you get right down to it.
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    08/10/09

    @lizdexia: If the women who have the freedom to protest for better circumstances don't, the women who are not free have no chance.
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    Image of lizdexia lizdexia
    08/10/09

    @thesciencegirl: That is an excellent point! How could I have overlooked my Gog-given ability to raise hell on multiple fronts?
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    08/10/09

    @lizdexia: Good enough isn't good enough for me, thanks.
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    Image of Trulymadlyme Trulymadlyme
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    Of course there's always someone happier and there's always someone crappier. That's just life. It doesn't mean something isn't shitty.
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    Image of Dodgergirl Dodgergirl
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    Honestly, this type of rhetoric infuriates me. It always seems to rest on the idea that because the United States is supposed to hold up the ideas of equality and freedom as primary goals, it is incapable of failing at achieving those goals. What an insult to those ideals that people think this is the best we can do.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    I wish I had four hands, so I could give that article four thumbs down.
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    Image of mbprice mbprice
    08/10/09


    @morninggloria: If you had a certain type of polydactylity, you could!
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    Image of bluebears bluebears
    08/10/09

    @morninggloria: use your toes. doy.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    08/10/09

    @mbprice: Could this be achieved by drinking nuclear waste?
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    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    I say we revoke one of her X's. Y not?
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    08/10/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: X-cellent idea.
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    Image of Gumbina80 Gumbina80
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    It always amuses me when a right-winger decries the treatment of women in the Middle East, and uses that as justification for military action. I had no idea right-wingers were such feminist crusaders!
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    08/10/09

    @Gumbina80: Seriously. We're against VAWA, but let's invade a sovereign nation because they mistreat their women!!
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    Image of mbprice mbprice
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    Yeah! At least you're not getting burned at the stake anymore in America anymore, women, so STFU and be happy!
    I'll never understand this petulance. There's like this feverish paranoia in some people that some people are having their cake and eating it to and HOW. DARE. THEY? Let alone the fact that that's not even remotely true, and that equality is a basic right, I think some people just genuinely don't like seeing other people getting ahead in the world, making progress.
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    Image of newyorkette newyorkette
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    I'm sorry, what's the benefit to being able to leave my house if I have to worry about getting murdered at my aerobics class?
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    Image of Dodgergirl Dodgergirl
    08/10/09

    In reply to The Oppression Olympics
    It's sort of like after the Civil War when former slaves were all "We want our rights!" and everyone else was like "You're not a slave any more, what do you want from us?"
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