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Jezebel 
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It will be interesting to see what happens, though. Part of me hopes I am proven wrong. I am still working out my feelings with regards to prostitution though, even prostitution that involves women patronizing men.
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And what's the demand for this? Gay guys who really want some usually don't need to pay for it (go to Craigslist) and are there enough women willing to visit a brothel in order for this to be sustainable?
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To me, this example encapuslates what I'm trying to write: male strippers are a laugh riot who make bachelorettes giggle at parties. No one takes it all too seriously.
Women strippers are their clients are a totally different mind-set. It brings to mind depressed and obsessive guys drunk at some dive—there's something seedy, illicit, and slightly sad about the scene.
Not the same.
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Not that that secures a market for a male brothel, but I'm sure they're not just making a business that would end up being completely unsustainable.
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Lots of guys just want to pay for uncomplicated sex. No pick-up, no cruising - I can absolutely see why a male brothel might be an attractive option for lots of men (both gay and "straight").
I'm guessing that there are also a fair few women for who the thought of just handing over a wad of cash, in a safe environment, in return for no-questions-asked-satisfaction-guaranteed sex is a pretty attractive option. In fact, if I wasn't married... ;)
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OMG, I totally remember that show "Real Sex". Some of the most hardcore sex scenes I've seen filmed.
Really? Huh. I've been in NYC for awhile, and though I'm not exactly a club goer, I've never heard of "serious" male strippers. Ever. I remember S&M dungeon-type deals in the Meatpacking district, swingers clubs, etc. but not that. Again, I'm not a sexual experimentation kind of person though. Maybe it's a new gen thing?
I have heard Playboy/girl-type "happy ending" massage parlor stories. There's a niche market for anything, really.
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I'm not convinced this whole phenom isn't just a big media push, trying to create a market that isn't there.
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Or just natural talent. There's a reason a minuscule number of men can perform in porn.
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And, again, how many well-off women are so "horny" they feel the need to visit a brothel?
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Also, this site is kinda about women's issues. Just so you know. So I'm writing from a womans p.o.v. The sexual experience is different for women than it is for men. That's the central thesis to my comments.
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I've known a number of rent boys over the years. The majority of their business is with men, but most of them have had women as customers too. It's really not as rare as you seem to think.
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Sooo...imagine how "rare" it is to the rest of the country.
Especially bi-sexual "rent" boys who cater to both men and women.
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Women can get just as raunchy as dudes if the environment is right.
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Of course I don't know the sex industry from the inside because I'm not a sex worker. And no, I don't know a multitude of sex workers. And if you're telling me "Oh, really? Gosh that is SO common here. EVERYONE knows sex workers", I say bullshit. I know thousands of New Yorkers, and there ain't one among them that I'm aware of.
Here's the crux of this whole discussion: the feasibility of a Nevada suite of male sex workers is who cater to both men and women, day in and day out, and that there is a HUGE demand for this. Come on. It's absurd.
Why not just move to NYC and ingratiate themselves into a social circle like yours? Problem solved!
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Also, love your screen name.
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They're really not all that rare. But just like homicidal maniacs (as Wednesday Addams puts it) they look just like everybody else.
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I still question how prevalent a phenomenon this has become, but, again, like I've typed, I AM middle-aged, so I am willing to concede the pan sexuality and paid-for sex is not something normal to anyone in my social circle.
And no, I have not ever met anyone fitting any of these sex worker descriptions. Ever. And I've met a lot of people in a lot bars and clubs from all walks of life. Here, and in the rest of the country.
Again, ones small social circle can have a warping effect on how one views the rest of the world. One mans commonality is anothers carnival sideshow.
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The point of my reply was to challenge your assertion that male sex workers are so rare as to be nearly unheard of. Will this legal brothel fly in Nevada? A quick perusal of sites where male escorts advertise in Nevada suggests that there are several hundred male prostitutes working there already (mostly in Las Vegas, where prostitution is illegal). I think the issue with this particular brothel will be location...supposedly a significant part of the rural brothel business in Nevada is from truckers, who are probably not the target audience for most male escorts.
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You mentioned "sites", which means online, which would suggest some degree of affluence and education, at least to do a computer search and have access to one. Not hard, but it would have a demographic niche very different from the truck-stop prostitute of yore.
My assertion is mostly this: straight male sex workers who live in brothels and perform a variety of sex acts on demand without drugs is extremely rare. To counter this, commenters asserted "fluffers" and "porn stars" but this is not that. This is not filmed, where anything can be made to seem real.
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The problem is that you appear to be assuming your experiences to be representative of all experiences, which, given the limited nature of social circles which you admit, cannot be true.
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"Limited" implies that most people have social circles with rent boys. Gimme a break. That's such an unbelievable assertion.
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And you typing "women need easy ass, too" isn't a total contradiction. You do realize the word "women" implies ALL people of that gender, right? Talk about assuming the role of representative.
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Your comment is the intellectual equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?!" You won't get starred for that comic brilliance.
And you can't buy one, either.
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Despite the stigma against the profession and the fact that there are those who get forced into it against their will, I do believe there are men (and women too) who get into prostitution because they enjoy sex and would like to make money off of it. And it makes sense that the more virile men would come out on top. So why couldn't these male brothels just be an example of the Survival of the Fittest (or Erectest) in terms of the sex industry? Why not assume that being able to maintain and recover your erection from session to session is just one of the skills you need to have to be a good "worker" in your "field."
Also, I'm sure the guys aren't fucking consecutively one after another. They'd have breaks in between to (at the very least) shower (I would hope). So they'd have time to build back up to the next erection. And I'm sure they also don't always cum, since it's probably more about the other person's sexual satisfaction and, especially with a condom, they could fake it.
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I find the Nevada ranches an interesting concept, if only because they seem to harken back to the idea of the Wild West saloon type brothel—sex was so hard to come by (haha) that people had to pay for it on the wild frontier.
Agree also about a young mans' ability to "go the distance" multiple times without enhancements of any kind. Teenage boys...wow. Any stiff wind that blows.
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Also, something you said about "how many men could be suited for this" made me wonder if the type of men who are suited for the lifestyle are drawn to the lifestyle because of their...special skills so to speak. It just makes me wonder how people (consentually) end up in the sex industry (porn and prostitution) in their own ways and what factors led them there (be it a highly active sex drive, some sort of dysfunction in their childhoods, financial necessity + opportunity, etc). It's all very fascinating to me.
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I also find Jenna Jameson interesting in interviews, too. She's a keen businesswoman, but she talks at length about her issues and how she felt as she made all the decisions that led up to her life choices.
I've also seen a few documentaries on the Nevada system—they run a tight ship in those brothels. Weekly testings, and a very secure work atmosphere for the women (and now, maybe men!). It seems a preferable and safer system for both the workers and their customers.
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After countless wasted production hours, the general idea is that being good-looking is almost an afterthought. It explains how someone as unattractive as Ron Jeremy could be an icon of longevity.
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I say this way too often, but lo and behold, we are yet one step closer to realizing Idiocracy.
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The shops are in Little Saigon and most of the customers and waitresses, like most of the people in that area, are Vietmanese. I don't like Asian chasing creeps, and Im sure the shop gets a few, but Asian women are not being racially exploited every single time they are portrayed as sexual. Sometimes the Asian fetish card gets whipped out too fast.
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It is a sad day to be part of the human race.
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I'm done with this week.
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Maricopa County is pretty lenient on sex crimes, especially if the victim is rumored to be sexually active before the incident. Yet, if they find the end of a joint in your car they will try to send you to jail for 5-10 yrs (happened to my coworkers girlfriend).
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