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The Oppression Olympics
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DutchessOfDork
08/10/09

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Whether he likes or not Bob Herbert gives me a lady boner.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
08/10/09

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Guys, I think I might have found something to explain the article. According to Wikipedia (aka the source of all knowledge):
Applebaum is an adjunct fellow at the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank
Who else is a fellow at AEI? Newt Gingrich. I do believe they have been drinking from same pool of misinformation!!
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bluebears
08/10/09

@dianersb was bit by a zombie: Big shocker. Thats basically the conservatives argument against feminism in a nutshell, hey what are you complaining about? it could be like (insert third world country)!
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Alys Brangwin can't stop the beat
08/10/09

@bluebears: Also: "I'm glad you're not my wife!"
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thesciencegirl
08/10/09

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I find their choice of image accompanying the article to be really interesting. Are they implying that criticizing our nation's failings is unpatriotic?
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lizdexia
08/10/09

@thesciencegirl: I interpreted it as gentle mockery. I've never seen the term 'wrapped in the flag" to imply anything other than inappropriate conflation of criticism and patriotism.
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LutherNipperkin
08/10/09

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And black people should shut up about racisim because they're not slaves anymore, right? "It could be worse" doesn't keep me from saying "It should be better."
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bluebears
08/10/09

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I'm having a hard time understanding the objective of Double X. What Women Really Think? Really?
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
08/10/09

@bluebears: You must agree with them - you are a women after all, right?
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bluebears
08/10/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: I didn't think I shared that sentiment but apparently I do. Huh. I feel all edumacated now.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
08/10/09

@bluebears: I know. This is the second time I've seen them come with the thinly disguised internalized-misogynist crazy (and/or just plain old competitive sniping).
One more strike and they're out, IMO.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
08/10/09

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Anne dahling, after this little article I'm going to have to insist that you stick to writing about the GULAG. Because right now you need to STFU.
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lizdexia
08/10/09

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Is it bad that I sometimes agree with sentiment? I mean, yes, being the object of catcalling, filthy comments and other delightful behavior while walking down the street is irritating as hell, and definitely the product of mysogyny (and incredibly poor manners). And while we certainly have a right to object to that nonesense, I do sometimes feel guilty for being upset by it. Women in Saudi Arabia and the Congo have to address legally enshrined discrimination and rape as a tool of war, and I'm going to bitch because some man made a filty comments?
Of course I understand that we should be expecting people to conform to a morality higher than that of "at least we let you drive and don't rape all women all the time" but I can't help but feel that the fact I can even bitch about being treated badly is a product of western privilege.
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thesciencegirl
08/10/09

@lizdexia: Those behaviors all stem from the same problem. I hate the argument that a "minor" act of prejudice somehow threatens "real" fill-in-the-blank-ism. It's not as though we can only fight one battle.
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bluebears
08/10/09

@lizdexia: True. But however mild or atrocious the behavior manifests, its all coming from the same place when you get right down to it.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
08/10/09

@lizdexia: If the women who have the freedom to protest for better circumstances don't, the women who are not free have no chance.
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lizdexia
08/10/09

@thesciencegirl: That is an excellent point! How could I have overlooked my Gog-given ability to raise hell on multiple fronts?
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SarahHeartburn
08/10/09

@lizdexia: Good enough isn't good enough for me, thanks.
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Trulymadlyme
08/10/09

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Of course there's always someone happier and there's always someone crappier. That's just life. It doesn't mean something isn't shitty.
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Dodgergirl
08/10/09

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Honestly, this type of rhetoric infuriates me. It always seems to rest on the idea that because the United States is supposed to hold up the ideas of equality and freedom as primary goals, it is incapable of failing at achieving those goals. What an insult to those ideals that people think this is the best we can do.
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morninggloria
08/10/09

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I wish I had four hands, so I could give that article four thumbs down.
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mbprice
08/10/09

@morninggloria: If you had a certain type of polydactylity, you could!
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bluebears
08/10/09

@morninggloria: use your toes. doy.
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morninggloria
08/10/09

@mbprice: Could this be achieved by drinking nuclear waste?
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
08/10/09

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I say we revoke one of her X's. Y not?
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wtfox?!
08/10/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: X-cellent idea.
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Gumbina80
08/10/09

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It always amuses me when a right-winger decries the treatment of women in the Middle East, and uses that as justification for military action. I had no idea right-wingers were such feminist crusaders!
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Maritsa
08/10/09

@Gumbina80: Seriously. We're against VAWA, but let's invade a sovereign nation because they mistreat their women!!
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mbprice
08/10/09

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Yeah! At least you're not getting burned at the stake anymore in America anymore, women, so STFU and be happy!
I'll never understand this petulance. There's like this feverish paranoia in some people that some people are having their cake and eating it to and HOW. DARE. THEY? Let alone the fact that that's not even remotely true, and that equality is a basic right, I think some people just genuinely don't like seeing other people getting ahead in the world, making progress.
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newyorkette
08/10/09

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I'm sorry, what's the benefit to being able to leave my house if I have to worry about getting murdered at my aerobics class?
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Dodgergirl
08/10/09

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It's sort of like after the Civil War when former slaves were all "We want our rights!" and everyone else was like "You're not a slave any more, what do you want from us?"
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