I don't get Mad Men, either. I watched the first four episodes and kept waiting for it to be amazing. Then I gave up. It is just not my bag.
I love Bob Dylan, but it is possible to use an iPod and play video games and still know what is going on in the world. You sound like a cranky old bastard, Bob. Which you are, so fair enough. I love you anyway.
@Mrs. Stephen Fry: I feel I should add that I don't need characters to be likable (see: Dexter), but I do need to give a shit what is happening to them. And as hard as I tried, I just didn't care about anyone on Mad Men. I wanted to like it. But I still thought it sucked.
@Mrs. Stephen Fry: Even though I'm talking to myself, I wanted to add that I love Nabokov's Lolita. Didn't see a parallel between it and Mad Men at all.
"Courteney Cox ran into Brad Pitt at a concert - you know, her best friend's ex-husband - and "chatted away" with him all night. Page Six seems to think this was evil of her."
-- I can't believe I am saying this, but I agree with Page Six.
Sure, be respectful & say hello. But don't go spending the night chatting to the guy.
I agree a little bit with Bob Dylan, but for different reasons. Although I understand wanting to tune things out on say, public transit... the world is not that terrible a place that one must block out all actual auditory interaction from it at all times.
Also, I'm paranoid that someone will attack me unawares so I never jog/walk the dog with earbuds on.
Can someone explain to me why it's a big deal that Jessica Simpson is on the cover of Vanity Fair? No sarcasm - genuinely don't understand the problem.
@MomoMcgee: Traditionally, VF always had either up-and-coming starlets on the cover (some of whom, like Gretchen Mol, failed to live up to the It-girl hype) or bona-fide stars. But in recent times, they've had Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan on the cover, so I don't think anyone should be surprised Jessica Simpson is up front this month. VF jumped the shark a long time ago.
I don't have an Ipod, a Facebook page, or a Twitter account, and I only use my phone to call and text people. I thought I was just a cheap, anti-social Luddite, but now I know it is because I am too involved with real life and my identity. Sweet! Thanks, Bob.
That Billy Zane quote makes me think of one of my favourite W.C. Fields' witticisms: 'Ah, the patter of little feet around the house. There's nothing like having a midget for a butler.'
Courteney Cox ran into Brad Pitt at a concert - you know, her best friend's ex-husband - and "chatted away" with him all night. Page Six seems to think this was evil of her.
OR - she could be stealing Brad Pitt's hair (with follicle) to extract DNA, so that Jennifer Aniston and her mournful barren womb can still carry Pitt sprog! Cox is not a bad friend, she is the BEST. FRIEND. EVER.
@lilbobbytables: Or Heaven forbid she even like the guy?? Puh-lease, it's not like her loyalty is in question because she spoke to someone who was, in all likelihood, also her friend at some point.
To counter the "What's the big deal about Mad Men" thread (and you're all entitled to your opinions... even if they are misguided and horribly, painfully wrong and God judges you for them: I don't though ;-))-- HOLY SHIT! MAD MEN! Amazing writing, beautiful design, cinematography, direction, fab acting (generally speaking, some of the actors I'm not particularly in love with), and all the Miss Hendricks and Mr. Hamm my eyes can nom...
@LaComtesse: "Amazing writing" YES! I love that the characters are flawed, every one of them, but have qualities that make me want to keep watching them.
@LaComtesse: YES! I appreciate any television show that needs to be watched twice so you can pick up all the subtle details. Also, I modeled my winter wardrobe after Joan's.
I am excited for summer TV...Weeds! Then Mad Men!
But question...does this mean Mad Men is out of Emmy contention?
@Ailatan: Agreed. I never understood needing to find a character sympathetic or likable in order to recognize them as a good character or to enjoy the show. To quote Zoe Heller, people aren't mean to "be friends with the characters. If you want to find friends, go to a cocktail party." I find the best characters aren't likable: they're complicated, they're multifaceted, and they're realistic. I think every single character on Mad Men is all of those things.
@jennytea: Ever since watching Mad Men, my wardrobe has not been the same...
@thatonegirlsays: "does this mean Mad Men is out of Emmy contention"
I am not sure! Oh, and if you like Weeds and Mad Men, you should definitely pick up "Breaking Bad" which is like Weeds, but with meth, and is super-serious and full of suspense and fabulous writing. I swear I am giving myself an ulcer watching it!
@LaComtesse: I agree. I love the pacing, the style, the set design, the subtlety of the scripts, and the performances which, bar none, are fabuluous. Props to the lesser-touted guys, such as Sal, Ken and Harry. What I love most, perhaps, about the show is the way it demonstrates how patriarchy traps and grinds down men just as much as women.
@DexterHaven: From episode one: race, gender, socioeconomic status, etc. have all been so present as themes. I still say one of my very favorite episodes ever is Sally's Birthday (Season 1 Ep 3): Sterling Cooper is nowhere in sight, but it's just the suburban horror of it all that really shows there's NO escape, either at work or home, from the constant show and lies. (And, it also gives one the most tender, genuine moment between two people in the whole series, when their unnamed neighbors are seen just holding one another in the hallway. I still get weepy thinking about it.)
@emilyanne: precisely. Then again, my favorite book of all time is Lolita, so I'm big into terrible people as characters.
@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: The little bit we have seen (Kennedy campaign, the counter revolution, the Bay of Pigs, and the Freedom Riders) has been incredibly interesting, particularly looking at it from the point of view of people of priviledge.
Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Pratt are clearly a gift from Satan. Satan is the one who wants four little Spencer Pratts running around. It all makes so much sense, doesn't it?
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'Travelin Thru' is a great song ;o)
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I love Bob Dylan, but it is possible to use an iPod and play video games and still know what is going on in the world. You sound like a cranky old bastard, Bob. Which you are, so fair enough. I love you anyway.
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-- I can't believe I am saying this, but I agree with Page Six.
Sure, be respectful & say hello. But don't go spending the night chatting to the guy.
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Also, I'm paranoid that someone will attack me unawares so I never jog/walk the dog with earbuds on.
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Also, I don't like Tom Hanks. At all. I think he's a shit actor.
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'Ah, the patter of little feet around the house. There's nothing like having a midget for a butler.'
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OR - she could be stealing Brad Pitt's hair (with follicle) to extract DNA, so that Jennifer Aniston and her mournful barren womb can still carry Pitt sprog! Cox is not a bad friend, she is the BEST. FRIEND. EVER.
Or, you know, she was just being civil.
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YES! I appreciate any television show that needs to be watched twice so you can pick up all the subtle details. Also, I modeled my winter wardrobe after Joan's.
I am excited for summer TV...Weeds! Then Mad Men!
But question...does this mean Mad Men is out of Emmy contention?
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@jennytea: Ever since watching Mad Men, my wardrobe has not been the same...
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I am not sure! Oh, and if you like Weeds and Mad Men, you should definitely pick up "Breaking Bad" which is like Weeds, but with meth, and is super-serious and full of suspense and fabulous writing. I swear I am giving myself an ulcer watching it!
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@emilyanne: precisely. Then again, my favorite book of all time is Lolita, so I'm big into terrible people as characters.
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I agree. I cannot wait to see how the show deals with all the changes coming in the 60s.
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