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House Of Yes
Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique; MLK's "I Have A Dream" Speech; JFK's Assassination
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sybann
08/13/09

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Alan Rickman reading Return of the Native made me want to keep driving.
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Notes from the underwhelmed
08/13/09

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Can I get a falafel with hot sauce, a selzer, and a side of hell to the yes?

I love her.
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hovy
08/13/09

@Notes from the underwhelmed: NO TEDDY ROGERS!
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♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
07/31/09

In reply to Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique; MLK's "I Have A Dream" Speech; JFK's Assassination
If they don't tie up the loose ends with that Cuban Missile Crisis thing, I'm going to chew my own face off!
THE SUSPENSE!
HOW DOES IT END???
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Lolita Hazed
07/31/09

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Oh my God I'm so excited I'm so excited.
I WANT BETTY TO BE A HIPPIE SO BAD.
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morninggloria
07/31/09

In reply to Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique; MLK's "I Have A Dream" Speech; JFK's Assassination
I hope that this show continues for several more seasons, because if it gets to 1969, Bryan Adams can get involved.
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pond-side-over
07/31/09

In reply to Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique; MLK's "I Have A Dream" Speech; JFK's Assassination
Full blown pan-office conflict surely. Feminism, the civil rights movement, homosexuality, drug experimentation and hair gel starts getting used much more openly and creatively. Most real life advertisers in 2009 haven't yet caught up for Christ's sake.
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Le Kangourou de Kataroo
07/31/09

In reply to Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique; MLK's "I Have A Dream" Speech; JFK's Assassination
Didn't the one junior account manager (the writer that Sal likes) date/ go to the south with a black woman to fight for integration? I wish that storyline hadn't just fallen apart with her leaving him...
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greengrey
07/31/09

@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: They went to Mississippi, I think.
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Le Kangourou de Kataroo
07/31/09

@greengrey: but then didn't she decide to stay in Mississippi and he came back to NY, even though they were supposed to come back together?

(I usually enjoy as much gin watching Mad Men as they drink in the course of an episode)
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hovy
07/31/09

@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: Ken is the writer that Sal likes. Kinsey, the one with the beard who is a dead ringer for Orson Welles, is the one who went down to the South for the civil rights protests.
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LaComtesse
07/31/09

@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: I think they dropped it largely to make the point that Kinsey saw it as a one time/"look at how socially aware" thing and this actually MEANT something to her. Kinsey's a bit of a douchebag.
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Le Kangourou de Kataroo
07/31/09

@LaComtesse: They all are...
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greengrey
07/31/09

In reply to Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique; MLK's "I Have A Dream" Speech; JFK's Assassination
I hope Betty picks up a copy of 'The Feminine Mystique'.
Heck, I'll lend her my copy.
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LaComtesse
07/31/09

@greengrey: I want JOAN to pick up a copy! She's almost there!
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Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
12/19/08

In reply to Diddy Desperately Wants To Be On 30 Rock
Beyonce's new movie "Obsessed" looks like a cocoa-colored reindition of "Fatal Attraction", with a dash of "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle" and a twist of "Trois" served hot, steamy, and crappy. The only thing it's missing is a dead bunny floating in a pot of boiling water.

And strangely, I cannot imagine Beyonce even in all of her "fierceness" actually (believably) opening up a can of whoop ass on anybody...like, ever.
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special_boots
12/19/08

In reply to Diddy Desperately Wants To Be On 30 Rock
I mean... doesn't pretty much everyone have oral herpes? It was my understanding that even most people who don't get cold sores have the virus, and just aren't susceptible to flareups... It's not exactly scandalous, as far as I'm aware.
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lalaland13
12/19/08

@special_boots: There's another, longer thread about this up top, but I don't see what the big scandal is either. I get a cold sore once in a while and while it's really annoying, it doesn't make a dirty whore, because they aren't the same type of strain. I think the first type is more likely to give you cold sores, the second type is more likely to give you genital sores. Although there are more reports lately of type one giving you stuff on your junk, if I'm reading it right.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Gross, but informative.
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Cerridwen
12/19/08

@lalaland13: Even if they were the same type of strain, it doesn't make you a "dirty whore." Anyone who is having sex is susceptible to herpes, either type. There is nothing more scandalous about it than the fact that I had plantar warts on my feet as a child.
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prestocaro fears the culling
12/19/08

@special_boots: It's really not that big of a deal. I wouldn't want to rub my face all over someone with a quarter-sized cold sore, but I also wouldn't want to make out with someone with a pimple on their lip, or something like that.

I think the majority of people that are like "did you see the cold sore? eww!1!!11" are the ones with raging, untreated gonorrhea.
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wickedkez
12/19/08

In reply to Diddy Desperately Wants To Be On 30 Rock
Sorry, I stopped reading at "Idris Elba."

Guhhhh hguhhh buhh
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A Small Turnip
12/19/08

@wickedkez: No shit. Idris Elba can stringer my bell any day he likes.
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scullymurphy
12/19/08

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I just need to have a quick sit-down with Kate Winslet and make her understand that yes, she is actually a full and complete feminist already. Otherwise, I don't think we can be bffs anymore.
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A Small Turnip
12/19/08

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You know what saddens me the most about what Kate Winslet said? It's the fact that it's so fucking half-assed and passive. It's so careless. I had always understood her to be someone who thinks things through carefully, but that quote? Is the very definition of lazy thinking.

If she'd said, "You know, I'm not actually comfortable with being labelled as a feminist because it carries a whole lot of social and psychological cargo that just doesn't fit me right or represent my particular view of humanity," I'd have some respect for it. I'd disagree, vehemently. But I'd respect it.

The sloppy thinking that she's spinning here, though? Not impressive, Kate. I say it with deep love in my heart: DISAPPOINTED!
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cuteasabutton
12/19/08

@ASmallTurnip: I AM PM'ING YOU!
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A Small Turnip
12/19/08

@Cuteasabutton hearts Caleb Followill: THAT SOUNDS DIRTY. I LIKE IT! DO IT AGAIN, A LITTLE TO THE LEFT! YEAH!
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scullymurphy
12/19/08

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Yeah, reports that 30 Rock has jumped the shark are greatly exaggerated.
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LaFemme
12/19/08

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Is there anyone who DOESN'T have oral herpes at this point? I think I picked mine up at around kindergarten age by sharing a cup or something.
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autonaimee
12/19/08

@LaFemme: Actually, I don't and to my knowledge neither does any of my family. It's kind of disparaging to assume everyone's carrying herpes of some kind.
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haguenite
12/19/08

@LaFemme: MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME! And everyone else can keep their dirty herpes lips away from me. I say that most lovingly. I will tell it to my mother when she has a sore.

DO NOT WANT.

@ASmallTurnip: It's another way of saying "oooh, no, I'm not one of those bonerkilling feminazi's *giggle giggle* I'm a giiiirly girly girly girl. But plz to be respecting me as a person anyway. Kthnxbai!"
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LaFemme
12/19/08

@autonaimee: Lucky! I guess I haven't met that many people that have never in their lives had a cold sore; I would normally get one every 2-3 years in the corner of my mouth, starting very young, usually brought on by dry, cold weather. My doctor was always like, "whatevs, as long as it isn't frequent most people will get some kind of oral herpes strain at some point in their lives. Put on chapstick and call it a day."
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taranwanderer
12/19/08

@LaFemme: I don't either. My mum does, though. She'll get them every couple of years but it was never a big deal. In fact, I didn't even know her cold sores were oral herpes until our day of STD education in high school health class. I still think it's nice that she managed not to pass it along to her children.
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prestocaro fears the culling
12/19/08

@LaFemme: I haven't ever had a cold sore. My family shares towels, drinks and food regularly, but none of them ever get cold sores, either -- tho my diabetic dad gets cracks at the corners of his mouth sometimes. Cold sores aren't always the result of "genital" herpes (type 2), sometimes they are from a different herpes simplex (type 1), but you can transmit both orally and genitally.

I love living with a medical school student, you learn all kinds of random tidbits.
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A Small Turnip
12/19/08

@taranwanderer: You may be a carrier of the herpes virus. It's technically possible that you don't have it, but it's extremely unlikely that you'd avoid it if your mum does. Close family proximity, and all that.

I'm the only one in my family that doesn't get cold sores, and until I was twenty three, I thought I'd just been careful enough not to have gotten the virus myself. Then I got fun fun Bell's Palsy, and my GP told me that it was caused by the herpes virus attacking my facial nerves. So even if I don't get cold sores, those cranky herpes virus dudes are still cruising around my system like hoons on a weekend joyride. Bastards.

Bell's Palsy got better, though. So there's that. White blood cells FTW.
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homochka
12/19/08

@ASmallTurnip: About 80% percent of Americans have the virus but not everyone actually manifests the sores - for many people, the virus is dormant. So just because you haven't had a cold sore doens't mean you don't have the virus. I hate hate hate hate the stupid stigma people still associate with cold sores like they're at STD (which shouldn't be stigmatized either, but that's another story.)
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A Small Turnip
12/19/08

@homochka: I know, man. Cold sores suck enough. Peeps don't need the extra stress of thinking it's dirty dirty ew sex. Cold sores just are.
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LaFemme
12/19/08

@homochka: Yeah, I just looked it up and apparently 90% of Americans will be a carrier of oral herpes by age 50, so it is more likely than not that even if you have not had a cold sore, you have or will have some strain of the virus.

Although I have had cold sores ocasionally in the past, I am lucky that they are very rare.

@ASmallTurnip: Yeah, this. I had a friend who didnt have any outbreaks and then got one up by her temple. Apparently the virus runs along the nerves and can minifest in other areas besides just the lips. It first looked like acne, but no. Herpes up by your ear.
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breccia
12/19/08

@prestocaro: waitwaitwaitwait

this is what i'm confused about. my bf and i both had a cold sore outbreak this summer on our lips and it ruined our lives for about a month. neither of us have had one since, but we're terrified about spreading it and have completely cut off doing oral. which is NOT great for either of us. can you spread type 1 to the genitals? i thought only type 2 could appear in both places. obviously we wouldn't do anything while having an outbreak, but I don't even want to take the chance any other time :(

please to be diagnosing me, internet stranger who lives close to a medical student!
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dancerevolution
12/19/08

@breccia:

Anointytoity (s/p?) is basically correct. The medical community is a bit fuzzy on this issue, but the general consensus is that about a week before a cold sore pops up (how you know when that is, I'll never know) and a week after the cold sore goes away, along with the entire time the cold sore is visible, are the times that you should abstain from oral with each other. You're probably safe during times not within these windows. However, types 1 and 2 are spreadable either way. Meaning if you have type 2, you can get type 1 from contact and vice-versa.

On a side note, you can always use a condom to give him oral, and there is also a female condom for this exact purpose. It may sound weird at first, but they demonstrated it in my human sex class and it seemed like a good idea.
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prestocaro fears the culling
12/19/08

@breccia: They call type 2 "genital" because it "prefers" genital tissue -- ie, infects it more readily, and appears on that tissue more frequently during outbreaks. Herpes type 1 "prefers" sino-mucosal membranes (your nose/mouth/eye area). But you can spread both types, both ways. And you can also spread them when you don't have sores, in fact, herpes is at it's highest incident of spreading in the days BEFORE an outbreak. If you're really concerned, use dental dams and condoms, and check with your doctor (of course, hopefully this goes without saying) about getting a scrip. Medicating herpes has come light years in the past few years and it's really not that big of a deal.
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