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Scout
11/17/08

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totally irresponsible

blah!
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Raspberry Swirly
11/17/08

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Actually, no. I take it back, that's not cute. This is straight out of Village of the Damned. It has begun.
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Raspberry Swirly
11/17/08

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That is so cute. But really, Cape Fear? That's terrifying.
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LilyBonesBurana
11/17/08

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Hey, don't I get a cupcake for NOT having a baby?

No?

Why not?

OK, how about a belated Veteran's Day cheesecake then?

NO?!

Wah.
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@LilyBonesBurana: Seriously I think you should get a cupcake! Cupcakes for everyone!! Oh wait does that make me a socialist?
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/17/08

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This is sweet, but all those babies in one place kind of terrifies me...
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maggiethecat
11/17/08

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All my PMS, mixed w/ last night's dreams about protecting my baby from gunfire (not a mother in real life, just having premenstrual baby dreams), makes me want to run out and buy some delicious cupcakes
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@maggiethecat: Now I want delicious cupcakes too!
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MissFiFi
11/17/08

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it is sweet and makes me want to kick the governments ass for not supplying health care, housing and education for free for life for these folks that defend out lives. I sure as hell would not do it, but I will fight for them to be taken care of when they get back. Sorry about the rant, I just want them all to be well and have chubby happy babies :)
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BlondeGrlz
11/17/08

@MissFiFi: Well, to be fair the military DOES pay for all those things while they're still serving. I'm getting wonderful pre-natal care at a fancy clinic (they warm the ultrasound gel, that's how you know it's fancy) on the Navy's dime. And if these soldiers make it a career (20 years, so they can retired at 39) they get excellent benefits and a pension as well - my dad's military insurance covered me until I graduated from college, even though he'd been retired for 6 years. Plus the new GI bill is going to give my kid a college education in 18 years or so.

Yes in some cases the military still fails these soldiers - but it's not the norm.
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!: Amen to that. Where I'm having my baby is a really nice place, but it can't compare to some of the natal care units I saw while the mister was in the Army. Plus omg the new GI bill makes me tear up a little. It's what people who have put in the time deserve.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/17/08

@BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!: What happens if they are injured on the way? Or, God forbid, they die?
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BlondeGrlz
11/17/08

@Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: You mean the soldier? If your husband dies while in service the military doesn't just forget you. As long as he's been in service for more than 30 days (don't quote me on that exact number, it changes sometimes) you get to keep the health care for you and your children. It only ends if you remarry. You also can keep your housing or housing allowance for a year. Besides low cost life insurance, the military also offers financial assistance (I hate to use the word bonus) to help the surviving family. Here's the link: [www.military.com] I don't mean to sound all "Hoo Yah Military" I just hate when people feel bad for me or other wives because they think we aren't cared for. We have it better than many families.
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

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I really want to read the NYT story now. Also to cuddle adorable babies!!
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etcerica
11/17/08

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This is what we get for sending the troops to war without adequate protection!
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: No one ever wants to lose someone they love in war or an accident. It's always hard to lose anyone but it can happen regardless of your job. People in the military do at least have the comfort of knowing if anything does happen their loved ones will be cared for.

In spite of all the bad press the VA and military medical are on the cutting edge of technology. If there is a treatment out there for your service related injury you will have it.
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BlondeGrlz
11/17/08

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This is adorable, and it happens on a smaller scale with every military homecoming. Submarines only hold about 130 guys but nine months after the end of each deployment there are four or five babies born.

Personally, I'd love to be pregnant at the same time as all my friends. Instead I have to settle for internet acquaintances and a couple of women with 1 year olds.
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MissyMcCLung
11/17/08

@BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!: I have now been pregnant with my Sister in law at the same time - twice. For us it has sucked, one of us was bigger earlier, one had a better labour, one's baby nursed well... everything had to be a competition. We're no longer really friends.
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Liz11685
11/17/08

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All I can think of is that most of these parents are probably barely out of their teens. And that frightens me.
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devilchyld22
11/17/08

@Liz11685: Why?
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@Liz11685: While that is kind of scary an Army base is about the best community ever for young pregnancy. They have all kinds of programs in place for support. Lots of classes on parenting, GREAT health care, free day care, job training, Family Readiness Group which is always willing to help out and check in if anything seems amiss, subsidized food and baby item prices, on post housing... the list is pretty long.
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PhDork
11/17/08

@Little Time Bomb: OMG SOCIALISM!
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pestified wants-a-Bush-tribunal
11/17/08

@Little Time Bomb: I was thinking that the sense of belonging and community must be intense. Lovely if you crave belonging, but must be stifling and overpowering for others. And hard to admit wanting to leave?

I think the cult aspect would overwhelm me.
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BlondeGrlz
11/17/08

@pestified's new O(bama)Face: Nah, you don't have to be involved if you don't want. I've managed to make it 4 years without joining a single wives group. But trust me, when your husband is deployed having all that support is a godsend, not cultish.

@PhDork: I heart my socialist healthcare SO MUCH.
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@pestified's new O(bama)Face: It's not really all that cult like. There is a wide range of people and a wide range of situations on any military post. How you deal with and operate in military life is all down to how you want to use the system that is in place. Army families get moved around pretty often so they do tend to bond quickly. I never found it all that hard to opt out of anything you weren't interested in. Plenty of spouses go home to where ever their family is when their spouse is deployed. I'm coming off as a pretty big military booster in this thread which isn't always the case. The military has plenty of faults, but they do provide a pretty decent family support system. If you want to use it.
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@PhDork: OMG FREE CUPCAKES!!! That's the kind of socialism I can respect!
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LilyBonesBurana
11/17/08

@Little Time Bomb: @Little Time Bomb: @Little Time Bomb: I'm a huge commie pinko liberal anarchist ho-bag who married a soldier, and I never felt any pressure--other than self-imposed pressure (which was tremendous, yet MY OWN SH*T) to become a Stepford Army Wife, either.

We live off post now, but I found on post living to be pretty non-cultlike.

That's a dying generational stereotype, I think.
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@LilyBonesBurana: My first trip to the PX/grocery store I just could not believe the amount of organic and awesome foods from around the world! I still miss it sometimes.

I was also shocked by the number of amazing liberal, independent minded, crafty, educated ladies I met who were also Army wives. I learned quite quickly that there is no one military type, and there is no "Army wife" mold.
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morninggloria
11/17/08

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It's a good thing that Saddam's piles and piles of WMD's in Eye-rack didn't render our troops sterile.
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hatepaperdoll
11/17/08

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This is sweet, and I would like to drop from the ceiling onto that giant tray of cupcakes and roll around laughing uncontrollably while licking icing off my hands.

I skipped lunch.
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NefariousNewt
11/17/08

@hatepaperdoll: OK, color me a bad person, but I'd pay to see that.
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
11/17/08

@hatepaperdoll: Wait, didn't Kate Perry just do that at a concert?
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anibundel
11/17/08

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Mmmmmm...breeding the next generation to feed to the endless war. How sweet.
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Majrhoulihan
11/17/08

@anibundel: Oh, come on. It's babies and cupcakes! Hundreds of wanted and loved babies! Yipppeee!
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@anibundel: Ummm, not really. Speaking as a currently pregnant wife of a former soldier, who spent a lot of time with other Army parents most of us would discourage our kids from joining the military.
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@Majrhoulihan: Exactly, it's all about the love when people get home from deployment!
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anibundel
11/17/08

@Majrhoulihan: Sorry, non-breeders like me should stay out of these threads. My apologies.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/17/08

@anibundel: Somewhere, George Carlin is smiling down on your cynicism...
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Marya
11/17/08

@anibundel: We have an all-volunteer army. Soldiers are not members of a hereditary caste.
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The Harlot Queen Likes The Word Strumpet
11/17/08

@Marya: An all-volunteer army but many army brats have followed their parents into armed service. My personal experience: Had a grandfather who couldn't get into the regular armed services due to flat feet during WWII and instead did work as support personnel at an air base (because he was broke and needed to feed his family, had an uncle who went into the Navy because he was broke and figured he was going to be drafted anyway (Viet Nam), his son (my cousin) also went into the Navy because he needed college money.

It may be all-volunteer but the armed forces seem to exploit the poor and desperate for cash.
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Little Time Bomb
11/18/08

@Athaliah: Anecdotal evidence is not really solid fact on that.
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AndreaSue
11/17/08

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I agree this is a sweet sentiment, but I don't know if I'd want to start taking care of a pooping infant so soon after I was out of the line of fire. I would want to take a HUGE break!
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AuntieBee
11/17/08

@AndreaSue: Well, just for perspective's sake... you would probably have nine months lead time.
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Lox
11/17/08

@AndreaSue: Think of it this way, if you've been faithful, you haven't had any for how long... months, years?
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Little Time Bomb
11/17/08

@Lox: Deployments can be up to 15 months long now. Everyone does get 2 weeks of home leave during that deployment. Which is not that much really by the time you fly home from where ever you were. Those 2 weeks can also be pretty intense.
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