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The Queen of No
06/08/09

In reply to MTV's 16 And Pregnant Showcases A Consequence Of Teen Sex
"All a baby needs is love?! No! That is not all a baby needs!" Preach it, kid. Seriously.
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Liz11685
06/08/09

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I feel like it is important for MTV to explore this issue, that has seemingly EXPLODED in recent years. (I feel like 6 years ago when I was in high school it wasn't as rampant as it is now, but that might have just been my high school.) I just hope that they mention abortion. I hope they mention what kinds of sex ed the girls had. I hope that they mention condoms and hormonal birth control.

My cousin had a baby in the 80s when she was barely 16, now in her 30s she is already a grandparent. (and is pregnant with her 5th kid) You cannot always rely on parents to lead their children in the right direction- the media, schools and other outlets all need to push for proper sex education!
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saintbernadette
06/08/09

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"All that baby needs is love."

Yeah, that's what I thought when I got a dog. Wrong-oh.
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euterpe35
06/08/09

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Tracie, you wrote: "I believe that teens shouldn't be having sex unless they can deal with the consequences, whether those be pregnancies or abortions."

shoulda woulda coulda.

How about recognizing the Teens will have sex and just keep them from getting pregnant in the first place?

My daughter is on Depo Provera, because I knew good and G-D well she was going to have sex. Why? because she told me. Why did she tell me? Because she could trust me.
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ArtfulSlinger
06/08/09

@euterpe35: I wish they would run throughout high schools and give out this shit.
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TXTeacher
06/08/09

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Meh, just like having to sit with my students in my classroom. Don't want to watch it at home though. I get enough of it at work.

I had 5 students in the last month tell me they were pregnant. 2 were happy, 3 were sad but couldn't get abortions because the baby's daddy didn't want them to. Disgusting if you ask me, but I couldn't say anything because of the stupid laws that are set forth by the Texas State Board of Education.

It's a shitty situation, especially in this economy. Sad thing is, these young girls are very prone to becoming pregnant again in the near future.
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SarahMC
06/08/09

@TXTeacher: "2 were happy, 3 were sad but couldn't get abortions because the baby's daddy didn't want them to."

*rage*
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drivebyillusion
06/08/09

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what parent is going to approve their kid participating in a show where they announce to the world that they had an abortion? that seems like a pretty god way to stigmatize the kid in lot of communities.
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bluebears
06/08/09

@drivebyillusion: you could say the same thing about the parents who allowed cameras into their homes and allowed their teenagers to be filmed for this show.
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nessalicious
06/08/09

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Education about birth control and abortion is the only way that the teenage birth rate will go down. The idea that babies and STIs are unavoidable side-effects of a past-time that most teenagers will engage in, or at least attempt to, is a self fulfilling prophecy if you do not provide them with the proper information. I listened carefully in all my sex-ed classes and have been having sex for 6 years now with a grand total of NO babies or STIs under my belt, and I should not be the anomaly...
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katkat6
06/08/09

@nessalicious: It's not just teenagers though. I'm 26 and know three people who all got pregnant in the last year or so. Do you know those "mommy surveys" on facebook - the ones that ask all the questions about your first kid or whatnot? There's a question about whether the baby was a surprise or not. All three filled them out and were like: "It was absolutely a surprise! I was on birth control, but I must be in that .1% that birth control doesn't work for!"

And it's just like NO. A) Statistically impossible. B) I hate that this urban myth is being continued. I get that facebook is perhaps not the ideal forum to be all, we were careless, oops! but still.

(and of course there is the "did you consider abortion" question to which all replied NO! OF COURSE NOT!, etc.
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Scout
06/08/09

@katkat6: I got pregnant at the age of 31 while on birth control (aborted) and I contracted genital herpes at the age of 34 from a boyfriend who, unbeknown to me, had oral herpes (I had never seen him with a cold sore in the entire year we dated)

shit happens
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snaffle
06/08/09

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I remember reading something recently about why there are fewer middle class teenage mothers than working class. It basically came down to the fact that the middle class ones had abortions. Quietly, yes, but more frequently. In my experience there is a huge amount of truth there. I am currently working with a child at school who is several months pregnant. It is not a huge deal to her or her family. She fell pregnant at 14 and will give birth at 15. Expectations, darling.
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alula
06/08/09

@snaffle: I think that's definitely true. I grew up in an upper-middle-class suburb of Chicago--there were 500 in my class, and no one who was confirmed to be pregnant. There was ONE persistent rumor about a couple two years ahead of me who secretly got married in the fall of their senior year, and the idea that she might have been pregnant and planning to keep the baby was like something totally exotic (which is why I even remember that, out of a school of 2000+ people). It was circulated as "fact" that our high school had the highest abortion rate in the state, although of course they don't keep that as an actual statistic. But I think the persistence of the rumor reflected the tone of the place--even in a deeply Republican county (basically like the OC of the Midwest, haha), teenage mothers were something that just wasn't done.

IIRC, this was sort of touched on in that "pregnancy pact" story that circulated last fall--there definitely was not the sense of missing out on experiences like college or traveling, because those girls never conceived of them as real options to begin with.
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the dodo, the cuckoo, and the nene
06/08/09

@alula: I grew up in the Chicago suburbs too, in a situation similar to yours....I'm wondering what school you went to, because your story sounds familiar. I remember hearing about a girl in my grade getting an abortion and it was such a big deal. I am ashamed to admit it now, but everyone was whispering/gossiping about it. We also had a few girls who did come to school pregnant, and that was also a very big deal.
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saintbernadette
06/08/09

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Nice Juno graphics, MTV.
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The HZA.
06/08/09

@saintbernadette: That's what I said when I saw the promos a few weeks ago. Like really?
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Amorette1125
06/08/09

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I'm so glad I didn't have sex until I was 22. Even having my 1st baby at 24 felt too soon to me.
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rednrowdy
06/08/09

@Amorette1125: my own rationale was that you can't be a parent to anyone else until you are a parent to yourSELF.
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sympathyforthebasementcat
06/08/09

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What about the show "18, Made Some Mistakes When I Was Younger, But I Was Able To Get An Abortion And Now I'm Off To College" or "31 and Happily Expecting a Baby and Glad I Didn't Limit Myself By Keeping that Fetus When I was 16"?

I guess those don't roll off the tongue as well.
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tscheese
06/08/09

In reply to MTV's 16 And Pregnant Showcases A Consequence Of Teen Sex
And you know what--I know that there are Jezebels here whose mothers became pregnant very young, and then chose to carry them to term. To all of you whose mothers went through those circumstances: I'm not saying that your mom was a fuckup for getting pregnant very young. I'm not saying that you're a fuckup. I'm glad you're here.

But you are here as a result of a choice. And this is why the element of choice is so, so, so very important. A woman can choose to carry to term and be just as pro-choice as a woman who chooses to abort. WE STILL HAVE THE OPTION, and it must, must MUST remain legal.
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MissyMcCLung
06/08/09

@tscheese: You are wise today!

Part of the thing in teen pregnancy in particular (though not uniquely) is that not only does in need to be safe, legal and available it also has to be anonymous and affordable, so mom doesn't need to ever know.
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Scout
06/08/09

@tscheese: I wish my mother would have aborted....saved me the grief

and Science knows I'm glad I got an abortion

CHOICE IS WONDERFUL!
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ArtfulSlinger
06/08/09

@nessalicious: I think in all honesty it also has to do with kids having nothing to do. Kids are growing up faster, every year and finding themselves around people older, who expect different things. Kids are curious and when given free passes to sit around in basements or cars with no obligations or nothing to entertain them, and then no proper sex ed, its a death sentence or a birth sentence. I was careful b/c my mom was a single mom (she had me when she was 30) and it was difficult for her, I couldnt imagine what it would be for me.
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Bunsen Honeydew
06/08/09

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After watching that guy say "If we didn't have a baby we wouldn't still be together" or something like that to that girl, I started hitting the cornify button on my browser over and over.

I'd like to cornify some of these girls lives. I think they need it. :(
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Jenavira
06/08/09

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Does anyone else at the end of it want to yell at the parent talking to what I think is a younger sister and says "See this is why you shouldn't get pregnant."? I want to yell no the lesson is you do your goddamn job as a parent and you teach your kids how to protect themselves when having sex!
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dj_chick
06/08/09

@Jenavira: Yes, I would like to yell at them, too. Let them know that if they didn't properly educate their kids, they can harbor some of the blame.
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MarissaExplainsItAll
06/08/09

@Jenavira: you know what, how fucking dare you. I feel like this is a personal attack on my parents, considering I will be an Aunt really soon. My parents were always supportive and encouraging toward me and my sister. Unfortunately, I took to it at a younger age than my sister. She is still trying to find herself. She still holds on to Catholic ideals and didn't want an abortion. My parents are great. My sister has had a hard life, you know, dealing w/ a dying parent. Stop being so fucking condesending and think before you talk. When people say shit like that, I have to wonder how liberal are they really if they can't tolerate anothers personal decision and thinks that they are w/in their right to say those things w/out knowing the situation.
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MarissaExplainsItAll
06/08/09

@dj_chick: what if, I don't know, they did have that talk? Think about every single time you bought birth control. Have you ever been able to do it w/out a rude comment or a judgmental look? Some girls are so insecure that they can't deal w/ that and don't buy birth control.
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stacyinbean
06/08/09

@MarissaExplainsItAll: Wait, what do you mean? I've never received a rude comment or judgemental look and I've been taking birth control for 12 years. Who would be judging you, the pharmacist?!
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MarissaExplainsItAll
06/08/09

@stacyinbean: Yes. I used to buy my sister's birth control, but when I went to college, I couldn't do it anymore. We grew up in a very conservative area in CA. One time I was called a slut. I think that the less people judge, the easier this situation will be to remedy (Also, I was more or less pissed at dj_chick judging my parents)
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Remedios Varo can't see no huevos.
06/08/09

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"MTV's 16 And Pregnant Showcases A Consequence Of Teen Sex" ... if you're straight.

Speak for yourselves, breeders.

/mostly sarcasm
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morninggloria
06/08/09

@Remedios Varo can't see no huevos.: Maybe pregnancy is God's punishment for heterosexuality, and He, Lord of Lord and Father of the Heavenly Hosts, wants us all to be gay.

Maybe Dan Brown can write a book about that.
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Laulau
06/08/09

@Remedios Varo can't see no huevos.: I know a few gay guys with kids out there. Abortion is an important right for us all!
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