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ObtuseIntolerant
11/07/08

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GLORIOUS!!

Whoever said the Obama girls need to embrace the natural, I agree!
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TheFormerJuneBronson
11/06/08

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She looks adorable. I wish my hair did that.
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hypnotic
11/06/08

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am i the only person who doesn't define this as an afro?

i don't know all the images i have seen my people picked out their hair into a fro...i am pretty sure this women finger styled her hair with some product

is this like a nouveau afro? post-modern fro

it's a cute look though. however i am not cutting off my hair just to walk around all day with the same hairstyle, which is why i vacillate between "natural" and "flat ironed"
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xay
11/06/08

@hypnotic: What is the difference if it is picked out or finger styled?

There are a lot of different ways to achieve an Afro - you can pick it out, blow it out, or do a wash and go. I think it's splitting hairs a bit (no pun intended) to be picky because of the styling method when the overall look is the same.
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hypnotic
11/06/08

@xay: the only overall look is that her hair is spherical...i get your point but i still have a hard time calling this an afro
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blackgirlsuperstar
11/06/08

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The woman on the makeover page is a dead ringer for Corinne Baily Rae - y/n?
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hypnotic
11/06/08

@blackgirlsuperstar: uh NO
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kityglitr
11/06/08

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She looks gorgeous, but I lament because she's STILL only a type 3 or 4 texture. Who's gonna stick up for us TRULY nappy heads! Not to downplay the importance of recognizing that there are tons of variation when it comes to black/ethnic hair. I just get sad because I never see anyone who has hair like mine shown in a glamorous light. Girls like me get relaxers, weaves, braids, or totally shaved down close to the head. I wanna see naps!
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xay
11/06/08

@kityglitr: Type 3 or 4? Which system are you using?

I have India Arie as my avatar because she is the only tightly curled natural that has been in the public eye lately.
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hypnotic
11/06/08

@kityglitr: honestly this is why i don't go to natural hair care forums anymore...people constantly talk about their texture

does it matter? you can still achieve this "look" with kinkier hair
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kityglitr
11/06/08

@xay: Well, I am only guessing, but according to some websites, I'm like a Type 5. The tightest, kinkiest curl. The girl in the makeover had big bouncy curls, so I assumed hers were one or two types more relaxed than mine.
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Calraigh
11/06/08

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Ok, throwing this out there- does anyone thing that Michelle Obama is going to have a profound effect on the culture of beauty, that is to say that black beauty will begin to be foregrounded as a norm, rather than as something exotic? Possibility or naive, do you think?

Also, do you think she'll have an impact on fashion and magazine culture, à la Jackie O?

(Disclaimer: I want all these things to happen, I'm just wondering what y'all think!)
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ambitious
11/06/08

@Calraigh: I don't think so. Maybe, but . . . i don't think so.
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jocelyn_1
11/06/08

@Calraigh:

Not profound. Maybe a teensy weensy bit.

But what I am dreading/awaiting (as someone has touched upon earlier in this thread) is what would happen if Michelle ever appeared in public with natural hair.

I can't even begin to imagine.
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ambitious
11/06/08

@jocelyn_1: Actually, I'm equally dreading what will happen when she doesn't.
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ambitious
11/06/08

@ambitious: I should say, when someone openly mentions it.

Like, if they're so proud black, and love blackness so much, what's up with her hair?????
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Calraigh
11/06/08

@jocelyn_1: Maybe affect a debate as to why it should be a big deal in the first place?
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
11/06/08

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Should I feel guilty if I want to see her kiss Nicole Kidman passionately?
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windstruck
11/06/08

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What I don't understand is all the blush all over her face.
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labeled
11/06/08

@windstruck: and neck, and collarbones. The makeup gun is stuck at "Bedazzle!"
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BeSarcastic
11/06/08

@windstruck: Especially since one of the notes under the photo says "Less is Best." That makeup is straight up 1986.
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aubonpam
11/06/08

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I love it! You had me thinking she started out natural and ended up like Beyonce.
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BeSarcastic
11/06/08

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Afros = awesome.

I have to point out that while women of color certainly get marginalized the most, I find that most anyone with naturally textured hair -- white, black, or other -- do not get celebrated. I can't tell you how many times I've been met with confusion, pity, and yes, even scorn, for choosing to keep my curly hair curly instead of straightening it. But I love it and don't care.
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Crabby Cakes
11/06/08

@BeSarcastic: When I finally stopped fighting my natural curls/waves and started working WITH the hair I had, I could not believe the reaction I got from some people. Pity and Scorn were top 2 from most. One friend was always talking about how awesome her straightening iron was and how I should TOTALLY try it out.
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echoparkgal
11/06/08

@BeSarcastic: I'm sporting natural curly at work today and every day since 2000! Gonna get a DevaCut in December! I even had time to put on mascara and eyeshadow this morning! I look awesome, feel great, drinking my tea, reading Jezebel and working hard to look like I work hard! I feel great!
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BeSarcastic
11/06/08

@Crabby Cakes is SOLID AS BARACK!: Ugh! I get so pissed off. It's like they're telling you, "I'm tolerating your hair." Makes me want to flaunt it even more.
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BeSarcastic
11/06/08

@echoparkgal: Thank you for introducing me to the DevaCut. I had no idea what that was... need to find a place in Boston that does it.
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Cafezinha
11/06/08

@BeSarcastic: The process of learning how to be happy with my natural curls has been a difficult one. My mother has straight hair, and has a very no-nonsense short butchy cut, and never gave me any ideas on how to work with the curls I got from my father.

(That's not a diss on her; she's just totally unconcerned with beauty stuff, so it didn't occur to her to teach me that sort of thing. Same thing with make-up--I'm still having friends teach me how to apply eye make-up well, etc.)

My hair is too long and coarse for me to be arsing with the straightener every day--it takes AT LEAST 2 hours!--so I'm trying to rock my curls. The Deva Cut sounds amazing...we need that where I live.
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Red-headed bookworm
11/06/08

@BeSarcastic: I love seeing women of any color wear their curly hair natural. I have stick-straight hair that won't hold a curl. It's also super-thick so it stay straight everyday or gets put in a ponytail. As long as someone's hair is healthy, their natural texture looks good. I've known some people who have damaged their hair so badly, their curls and waves are just frizziness. I always want to attack them with conditioner.
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trublusu
11/06/08

In reply to A Year After The Black Hair Controversy, Glamour Marches On
FYI - relaxers and perms are full of the worst toxins around, I say yeah for the natural look and double yeah to the fro and not poisoning yourself to conform to what "beauty" and corporate fashion are supposed to look like.
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info*ninja
11/06/08

@trublusu:Toxic to the women applying it. I lived above a salon and could not believe the fumes, i got headaches sometimes and those workers were there sometimes 12 hours and without masks.
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Jessi Ramsey
11/06/08

@trublusu: Lets not do this. The hair on my head is mine and I can do with it whatever I please.

I hate this "conform to beauty ideals" argument because if you're going to preach that, Then no woman should wear makeup, shave, or preen yourself in anyway.
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info*ninja
11/06/08

@Jessi Ramsey: But showing variety and options make that choice real; if everyone is pressured to make a choice it is not that autonomous BUT if we are really not stigmatized for our choices, we can really view them as personal independence. Point is: diversity (i don't just mean ethnically) in the media empowers everyone!
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rosasparks
11/06/08

@trublusu: I use a natural relaxer, that doesn't straighten my hair, but RELAXES the curls. If I didn't, I wouldn't even be able to run my PICK through it. (Yes, I said PICK)

It's a matter of texture and manageability. Careful now and as @Jessi Ramsey: said, let's not do this.
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
11/06/08

@Jessi Ramsey: Amen!
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
11/06/08

@rosasparks: Yes, let's not do this. I am NOT my hair!
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rosasparks
11/06/08

@ceejeemcbeegee: The selectivity of the "ooh, don't conform" comment re: Black hair, is a dangerous line to tread.
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ambitious
11/06/08

@info*ninja: Variety is one thing but deciding that one choice can only be the result of a desire to conform to ONE standard of beauty is asinine.
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ambitious
11/06/08

@Jessi Ramsey: YES. I have a feeling this is going to become much much more of an issue with the first lady and her two daughters.

I am dreading this discussion.
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xay
11/06/08

@rosasparks: I understand what you're saying but I'm tired of the idea that natural hair means putting up with unmanageable hair. My curls are nowhere near as big as the woman pictured, but when I had loose natural hair, I still spent no more than 5 minutes in the morning on it whether I was wearing an Afro, twists, or braids and it still looked neat and professional. If your definition of manageable means being able to run a pick through it, that's fine, but it's your definition.
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rosasparks
11/06/08

@xay: I am speaking about ME. I don't presume ANYTHING on anyone else's hair or experience. Nor was I making a point to speak about all women of color's hair. My point was I do what I need to do for MY hair in order and the broad generalization of one particular choice is silly.
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rosasparks
11/06/08

@rosasparks: in order to be happy. Sorry 'bout that.
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info*ninja
11/06/08

@ambitious: That is circular logic to assume that is what i am saying
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ambitious
11/06/08

@info*ninja: That's actually for trublusu.
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ineffable.me
11/06/08

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Why do I need to be inspired by a woman who adopts kids, leaves them to her sister-in-law to raise and then goes around spouting bullshit about the joys of motherhood when she gives birth to a baby?
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tscheese
11/06/08

@ineffable.me: Because she's blonde, wealthy, thin, and attractive! And that makes her BABY JESUS REINCARNATE.
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Mama Penguino
11/06/08

@tscheese: I'm surprised she hasn't driven her fake kids to Omaha to drop them off at the hospital.
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tscheese
11/06/08

In reply to A Year After The Black Hair Controversy, Glamour Marches On
Tangential, but: what are the 108 holiday goodies we can all afford? A trip to the library? A walk among autumn leaves? Heating oil (maybe?)
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labeled
11/06/08

@tscheese: Well, the Dow is down another 360 as of right now, so I'm buying GE stock for everyone on my list! Yay, stocking stuffers!
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GeorgeFayne
11/06/08

@tscheese: Mud pies (that is, if the ground isn't frozen where you live), snowflakes, and hope for America.
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hellosunshine
11/06/08

@tscheese: Makeup. And Stuff Under $40!!!! (Hint: It's all in the $35-39.99 range.)
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rocknrollunicorn
11/06/08

@labeled: But they sold the E to Samsung!

This joke is like a week late. But Will Arnett rocks my world.
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tscheese
11/06/08

@hellodarling loves president obama!!!: Hahaha! I guess I should have known.

I guess I am the wrong demographic for this--I would rather throw myself in traffic than buy a $40 lipstick.
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Crabby Cakes
11/06/08

@tscheese: Are they goodies you buy for yourself? Cause I think it's a little tacky to buy someone makeup as a gift. "Here, soon-to-be-former-friend! Have some concealer! (YOU NEED IT.) MERRY HOLIDAY!"
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rocknrollunicorn
11/06/08

@Crabby Cakes is SOLID AS BARACK!: I have only bought like those fun palettes (from MAC, etc.). I have a couple friends who would appreciate them, and other friends I would never buy them for.

Concealer = ultimate fail at friendship though!
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Crabby Cakes
11/06/08

@rocknrollunicorn: I can get behind the fun palettes, cause then it's like- 'let's play dress up and have fun with makeup! WHEE!'
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Easybreezy
11/06/08

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That girl is so goshdarned pretty. And her hair looks awesome.
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Crabby Cakes
11/06/08

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OT, but Nicole Kidman needs to go back to her natural hair color and embrace the curls. This hair-the-same-color-as-her-skin is just freaky.
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