Please please please everyone read "Taking Charge of Your Fertility: The Definitive Guide to Birth Control, Pregnancy Achievement, and Reproductive Health" by Toni Weschler.
Whether you are trying to have children or trying to remain childfree, you will not regret learning so much about your body (stuff that every woman should have been taught in school, but never was).
@millefleur: Good to lern about, but don't trust her temp and cervical fluid stuff in it s b/c though. Even she cites some studies that show lots of babies are produced when using it, although she tries to qualify it saying "but these were married couples and they probably weren't following it right..." blah blah blah.
I know several babies who are the product of her b/c method.
The book is good for learning about your body and your cycle, and also good for know when to have sex to optimize your chances of getting pregnant, but if you REALLY don't want to have a baby right now DON'T TRUST HER BIRTH CONTROL METHOD!!!! She'll try to argue with you that it works, but it is way too complicated and way to esy to take a "I thiiiiink we're okay" chance with. DON'T DO IT...
My inlaws talk about how my husband was a antibiotic/birth control baby all the time. My FIL is a Dr and every time he heard tht I or my SIL were on antibiotics when we were young nd childless he'd start with the "remember to use another form of contraceptives, antibiotics interfere with bc pills..." It was kind of uncomfortable coming from him, but I guess thoughtful in an odd way?
On the sleep thing, boy am I feeling it. And now I have increased insulin, inflammation and hypertension. Lovely. Thanks, Sunday night/Monday morning insomnia. I will never lose weight/get healthier if I can't fuckin' get to sleep. And I can't get to sleep because I sleep late on Sundays.
I envy the women who made it to five months without knowing they were pregnant. I was FLATTENED by nausea before I even got a positive test, and ended up having to take Zofran just so I could get off the floor every morning. A nausea-free first trimester sounds like a dream!
@weese17: At 15 weeks I am still throwing up every day, despite medication. I know everybody is different, but if you had pregnancies like mine, there is NO WAY you could not know you were pregnant. That and the doubling in breast size.
@weese17: My co-worker was recovering from major intestinal surgery and felt so crappy that the pregnancy-related crappiness didn't surface as a distinct sensation until she started to recover from the surgery. That was about 5 months in. She also lost 25 pounds total from start to finish. Craziness.
@weese17: I have a friend who has two kids who were both born within weeks of my oldest two.
I felt like I was dying fromt the start. She didn't know she ws pregnant (with either of them) until she was like six moths along and felt them kicking pretty hard.
Both times I had suffered through months of severe migrines, vomitting, and just generally being unwell and she just sauntered up one day and was like "Hey, I just found out I'm pregnant! I'm due when you are!"
Ok mommies.. Has anyone ever gotten pregnant on the pill?
How can you tell you're cycle is off? My pill results in one-two day periods. And for that matter, pills that aren't monthly. Wouldn't that be very damaging to a fetus to continue taking it?
Not thinking I'm pregnant. I've just had a scare before and wondered...
@WhineAndCheese: I was a pill baby. After discussing birth control with me and putting me on the pill at 15, I went to a family gathering with my mom, who pointed at assorted kids and went "condom, pill, pill and condom, diaphragm, rhythm", to point out that while I should still use protection, nothing is foolproof.
I'm not a mom, but I did get pregnant on Ortho Try Cyclen. Definitely not a fun experience. I feel like the only thing besides abstinence that is full proof is Depo. And that shit makes you crazy.
Some birth control pills are, in fact, affected by antibiotics. It's the absorption in the stomach that changes (similar to the negative effects on the effectiveness of the pill from vomiting, or having diarrhea).
Your doctor will warn you if you come across one of these combinations. Only a few types of antibiotics do this, and only some pills are affected but I hate it when websites make it sound like these medically proven things are just 'made up'.
The thing about the doctor not being able to tell a virgin from a non virgin is disappointing, mainly because it means the doctor in Quinceanera can't really prove that Magdalena is a virgin. Sad.
When I started dealing with fertility issues, I was quite shocked at how much I didn't know about my own body. Beyond "you're going to start getting your period" I think we're really bad at explaining to girls how their bodies work.
@saintbernadette: I read that book before trying to get pregnant (and yay, it worked). I think all girls and women should read it -- I can't believe I made it to my 30s without knowing that stuff.
I can believe on or even two were fuck ups in other ways. It just seems odd that all four would be like "Yeah, it was antibiotics" unless that's just the socially acceptable way of saying "I fucked up my pills."
Can antibiotics decrease the effectiveness of birth control pills?
The effects of antibiotics on birth control pills may be overstated - except in the case of one antibiotic, rifampin. Studies clearly show that rifampin decreases the effectiveness of birth control pills in preventing ovulation. However, rifampin isn't used widely. Chances are you wouldn't be taking it unless you had tuberculosis or had tested positive for the disease.
Hypothetically speaking, other antibiotics, particularly penicillin and tetracycline derivatives, could impair the effectiveness of birth control pills in a small percentage of women. Researchers can't rule out this possibility, but no large studies have proved such an effect.
If you're taking a newer, extremely low-dose oral contraceptive, you could be more susceptible to this potential antibiotic effect. If you're concerned, consider using a barrier method of contraception for the duration of your antibiotic prescription.
@morninggloria: So did my coworker! Like, a month after getting the IUD. The baby was huge (he's 3 now), and they joke that he came out with the IUD in one fist and a cheeseburger in the other.
I have the Mirena and my gyno said that if I did get pregnant on it (and it's 99% effective), the vast majority of pregnancies miscarry due to fetal abnormalities. OH MY GOD I'M NEVER SEXING AGAIN.
@morninggloria: I got an IUD, but my fiance still wanted to use condoms as a backup. I kind of made fun of him. Um NEVER AGAIN. Yay fiance.
And perhaps TMI, but I just got my period after being 3 days "late" (I use quotes because I went off pills a few months ago and my cycle isn't TOTALLY normal yet) and because of this thread I'm extremely happy about this fact.
@Ipomoea: As an IUD user, this thread just make me drop my drink on my desk, agape.
Since I had it put in about 5 years ago, I have had 3 unusually severe periods after having skipped a month or two beforehand. I always suspected they were possible miscarriages, but never had it confirmed by a doctor.
I never knew you could actually carry to term with an IUD--wouldn't it interfere with development and/or the birth process?
My mom is an OBGYN RN and she told me that antibiotics can and do interfere with the strength of your birth control. She's a smart lady and I believe her.
@kkatt: I got this blurb from the Mayo Clinic site, I trust them.
"The effects of antibiotics on birth control pills may be overstated - except in the case of one antibiotic, rifampin. Studies clearly show that rifampin decreases the effectiveness of birth control pills in preventing ovulation. However, rifampin isn't used widely. Chances are you wouldn't be taking it unless you had tuberculosis or had tested positive for the disease.
Hypothetically speaking, other antibiotics, particularly penicillin and tetracycline derivatives, could impair the effectiveness of birth control pills in a small percentage of women. Researchers can't rule out this possibility, but no large studies have proved such an effect.
If you're taking a newer, extremely low-dose oral contraceptive, you could be more susceptible to this potential antibiotic effect. If you're concerned, consider using a barrier method of contraception for the duration of your antibiotic prescription. "
@kkatt: I think the take-home point here is that if you are on antibiotics, it certainly couldn't hurt to use a back-up method, even if it may not be entirely necessary. That's probably why doctors tell patients that all antibiotics decrease the effectiveness of birth control pills- the research isn't conclusive enough that they feel safe telling you it's 100% okay, and since it doesn't hurt anything to use condoms for a couple of weeks, there's no point in telling you otherwise.
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Whether you are trying to have children or trying to remain childfree, you will not regret learning so much about your body (stuff that every woman should have been taught in school, but never was).
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I know several babies who are the product of her b/c method.
The book is good for learning about your body and your cycle, and also good for know when to have sex to optimize your chances of getting pregnant, but if you REALLY don't want to have a baby right now DON'T TRUST HER BIRTH CONTROL METHOD!!!! She'll try to argue with you that it works, but it is way too complicated and way to esy to take a "I thiiiiink we're okay" chance with. DON'T DO IT...
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I felt like I was dying fromt the start. She didn't know she ws pregnant (with either of them) until she was like six moths along and felt them kicking pretty hard.
Both times I had suffered through months of severe migrines, vomitting, and just generally being unwell and she just sauntered up one day and was like "Hey, I just found out I'm pregnant! I'm due when you are!"
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How can you tell you're cycle is off? My pill results in one-two day periods. And for that matter, pills that aren't monthly. Wouldn't that be very damaging to a fetus to continue taking it?
Not thinking I'm pregnant. I've just had a scare before and wondered...
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I'm not a mom, but I did get pregnant on Ortho Try Cyclen. Definitely not a fun experience. I feel like the only thing besides abstinence that is full proof is Depo. And that shit makes you crazy.
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Depo almost fucking killed me, no joke. My sister, too.
The side effects of that junk are horrific.
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Your doctor will warn you if you come across one of these combinations. Only a few types of antibiotics do this, and only some pills are affected but I hate it when websites make it sound like these medically proven things are just 'made up'.
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Have you read Taking Charge of Your Fertility? I couldn't believe the stuff I didn't know!
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I fail to believe that all four were lying to me.
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I can believe on or even two were fuck ups in other ways. It just seems odd that all four would be like "Yeah, it was antibiotics" unless that's just the socially acceptable way of saying "I fucked up my pills."
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Can antibiotics decrease the effectiveness of birth control pills?
The effects of antibiotics on birth control pills may be overstated - except in the case of one antibiotic, rifampin. Studies clearly show that rifampin decreases the effectiveness of birth control pills in preventing ovulation. However, rifampin isn't used widely. Chances are you wouldn't be taking it unless you had tuberculosis or had tested positive for the disease.
Hypothetically speaking, other antibiotics, particularly penicillin and tetracycline derivatives, could impair the effectiveness of birth control pills in a small percentage of women. Researchers can't rule out this possibility, but no large studies have proved such an effect.
If you're taking a newer, extremely low-dose oral contraceptive, you could be more susceptible to this potential antibiotic effect. If you're concerned, consider using a barrier method of contraception for the duration of your antibiotic prescription.
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I have the Mirena and my gyno said that if I did get pregnant on it (and it's 99% effective), the vast majority of pregnancies miscarry due to fetal abnormalities. OH MY GOD I'M NEVER SEXING AGAIN.
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And perhaps TMI, but I just got my period after being 3 days "late" (I use quotes because I went off pills a few months ago and my cycle isn't TOTALLY normal yet) and because of this thread I'm extremely happy about this fact.
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Since I had it put in about 5 years ago, I have had 3 unusually severe periods after having skipped a month or two beforehand. I always suspected they were possible miscarriages, but never had it confirmed by a doctor.
I never knew you could actually carry to term with an IUD--wouldn't it interfere with development and/or the birth process?
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"The effects of antibiotics on birth control pills may be overstated - except in the case of one antibiotic, rifampin. Studies clearly show that rifampin decreases the effectiveness of birth control pills in preventing ovulation. However, rifampin isn't used widely. Chances are you wouldn't be taking it unless you had tuberculosis or had tested positive for the disease.
Hypothetically speaking, other antibiotics, particularly penicillin and tetracycline derivatives, could impair the effectiveness of birth control pills in a small percentage of women. Researchers can't rule out this possibility, but no large studies have proved such an effect.
If you're taking a newer, extremely low-dose oral contraceptive, you could be more susceptible to this potential antibiotic effect. If you're concerned, consider using a barrier method of contraception for the duration of your antibiotic prescription. "
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