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CinemaFat
05/19/09

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Does it make you feel better Ms. Wintour to talk about people bigger and probably poorer than you as though they are too stupid to know how to eat and exercise? If only everyone in Minnesota would read Skinny Bitch and hire a pilates trainer, this epidemic could be over.
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random_play
05/18/09

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Insinuating that Karl Lagerfeld is Dracula shows real journ...
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Dodai
05/18/09

@random_play: this blog is not a Peabody Award-winning NEWS PROGRAM. 60 minutes is.
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Senor_Macho_Solo
05/18/09

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What was she doing in Minnesota? Was she stranded and , after much "fish-out-of-water" antics, came to find that small town values really are the best values?
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Princess Leela
05/18/09

@Senor_Macho_Solo: I think I'd prefer a slasher-film and/or "Deliverance"-style approach here. Arrogant Anna, a successful magazine editor, thinks she's headed off for just another dull weekend at the country estate her fourth husband inherited from his grandfather in Minnesota. Little does she know what unspeakably bloody evil lies in store for her in the Land of People the Size of Houses.
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battleaxonista...is a humorless bitch
05/18/09

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This woman's ideals are just as hypocritically hilarious as Hitler's adoration of the tall, blonde haired, blue-eyed Aryan. Get a clue, honestly.
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katie.scarlett.o'hara
05/18/09

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I love how she referred to fur protesters as if they were just some personal annoyance sent to bother her. It seems to have never crossed her mind that they might have a valid point to make.
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HistoricUpstart
05/18/09

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"I'd just been on a trip to Minnesota, where I can only kindly describe most of the people I saw as little houses."

Oh no she did NOT just say that about my state. Well, THIS house-like Minnesotan says fuck that noise. I'm off to eat some deliciously cheesy hotdish now!
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lalaland13
05/18/09

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I just thought of the spread Adele did for a recent issue, and felt really bad for Adele. If she met the Wintour, the Wintour was probably sneering at her the entire time and thinking of what a "house" she was.
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Moloko
05/18/09

@lalaland13: I wonder if she thinks of Andre Leon Talley that way.
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Trulymadlyme
05/18/09

@Moloko: gay African-American gay minstrels can be fat. See, they aren't really people /sarcasm.
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PhillyLass
05/18/09

@Moloko: She famously held an "intervention" to make ALT go on a diet. He, like Oprah, caved to the pressure. Then went on Oprah to discuss how empowering his weight loss was. Yeah.
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
05/18/09

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I inherently do not trust someone who has no sense of humor about herself.
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hfree
05/18/09

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Three thoughts:

1) Was anyone else surprised and delighted that Anna's office is exactly like Miranda Priestly's office?

2) What was up with Morley dissing John Galliano's fun, fashion forward suit while praising Arnault's kind of dowdy, traditional suit. Way to show your age.

3) I was way too happy to see that my mom, who is about 4 years older than Anna, looks ten times better than her without the fancy creams, botox and weighing about 70lbs more (granted, HD can be unkind). I will age well!
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miggery sow
05/18/09

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I want to hear more about her past. How did a high school dropout become the editor of Vogue?
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nessalicious
05/18/09

@megania: Her unauthorised biography is amazing! You should get it!

Basically her father was the editor of a paper in England and helped her out at the start. From thereon in it's a classic tale of hard work, backstabbing, and being really really single minded.
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Rare Affinity
05/18/09

@megania: A high school dropout...purlease! Anna would have probably gone to an exclusive fee paying public (as we call private schools in the UK)and then used Daddy's contacts to get into journalism. For a real example of an English WORKING CLASS girl made good in American fashion magazines without relying on nepotism look at the career of Glenda Bailey, erstwhile editor of US Harpers and Bazaar and Marie Claire.
[www.guardian.co.uk]
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Wibbles
05/18/09

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I don't support people's delusion that they can throw paint at people who are wearing fur*. I'm sorry, but it is not your responsibility to police what I wear.

If we're going to police people's clothing based on beliefs, then is your shirt made out of mixed fibers?

*Especially when they throw paint at my friend's fake fur coat. If you're throwing paint around, make sure you're going to make it really count. I use natural hair paintbrushes when I paint, so it's hypocritical to be anti-fur anyhow.)
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nessalicious
05/18/09

@Wibbles: They go into the vintage shop my friend works at and slash all the coats, fake or not, at least once a year.
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Jenloveshercurves
05/18/09

@Wibbles: You can buy natural pain brushes from fur that is shed naturally or that doesn't involve animals dying. Anything from goats or ponies wouldn't involve the animal dying. Sable, now that's a whole other ball of wax.
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baraqiel
05/18/09

@Wibbles: Yeah, I don't really get that. It doesn't make the animal not dead. And honestly, a significant portion of those people are just going to buy new coats anyway, so that's demand for another few pelts created.

Then again, when has PETA worked on logic about anything?
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nessalicious
05/18/09

@Wibbles: Actually I was just talking about this with my friend who is an editor at a fashion magazine and he told me that in Paris he was wearing a Galliano(?) jumper with a knitted fox around the collar in the manner of a stole. Peta came up and started harassing him and shoving him, while he tried to explain that it wasn't bloody real. Then another got some scissors out and tried to snip at it. He ran for the hills.

Peta are mental.
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nessalicious
05/18/09

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When about how she felt about the fuss people made of Hilary Clinton's cover, Wintour says: "I don't understand, if you look wonderful, does that make you less important, less powerful, less serious?"

To use that as a comeback as to why people balk at the use of photoshop and heavy editing in fashion magazines is ridiculous. I don't understand why someone obviously intelligent and articulate cannot wrap her mind around the idea that this is not about whether they look 'good' or not, but rather why good has to be so far divorced from reality and why it has to be something that is not realistically attainable.

Though she did not come from an unprivileged background her rise to prominence is fascinating, and her unauthorised biography, though scant on meaty details is amazing and worth a read.
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rednrowdy
05/18/09

@nessalicious: I don't understand why someone obviously intelligent and articulate cannot wrap her mind around the idea that this is not about whether they look 'good' or not, but rather why good has to be so far divorced from reality and why it has to be something that is not realistically attainable.

THIS!!!! RIGHT HERE!!!!

also, why does it have to be attainable? for many people, trying to maintain the body of a 25 year old when you are 45 is impossible. does that make the 45 year old any less intelligent, articulate, important, powerful or serious because the 45 year old, through whatever circumstances be they self-imposed or not, doesn't look like a 25 year old?
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nessalicious
05/18/09

@rednrowdy: I agree on the looking young thing too. It's interesting to see how the cult of youth has really taken off over the last few years. It's not only impossible to make a 45 year old look genuinely like a 45 year old, but it's unpleasant. Aging should not be something that we viciously fight against!
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Pocahaunted
05/18/09

@nessalicious: I jsut read her wikipedia entry. She was introduced to Bob Marley and disappeared with him for a week?!?!

LOLZ!!

Oh man, I cannot stop giggling. Also, isn't that a subplot of Gweneth Paltrow's character in The Royal Tenenbaums?
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pumpkinseed
05/18/09

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'lower life forms'--whaaaat?
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pumpkinseed
05/18/09

@pumpkinseed: Okay, I just realized that Dodai probably doesn't think of non-human animals as 'lower life forms' but somebody like Anna Wintour might.
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Dodai
05/18/09

@pumpkinseed: Yes, I was channeling her.
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MissFiFi
05/18/09

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Yes she does have to stay groomed within an inch of her life and I am sure working at Vogue is no walk in the park, but what facet of the entertainment industry is? Those of us who have done it recall the long hours and crappy pay, but when you want to be a part of something, you put up with a myriad of indignities.

That being said, if Vogue feels Obesity is such an epidemic and we need proper diet and exercise lead the pack with healthy and/or real women on the covers and not some origami looking woman I can fit in my pocket. Having large breasts, I would like to see how some of these clothes fit a quadruple D sometime.
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ZafirahKhayln
05/18/09

@MissFiFi: The thing is, I don't think VOGUE should be the place to tell people about fitness... I thought it was about the clothes, and the fantasy of owning all that shit. So what's not to lose from casting a variety of models + shapes in fucking fantastic clothing and call it a day?
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MissFiFi
05/18/09

@ZafirahKhayln: Absolutely!!! Give me tall, fat, thin, short, handicapped, all colors of the rainbow women to model clothes.

Maybe we should start a magazine like that. Don't tell me Galliano or McQueen would not love the idea. Designers look at us as canvases, so dammit, paint me and all my friends!
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Rare Affinity
05/18/09

@MissFiFi: If Galliano and McQueen gave a damn about short fat models, they would not have been using them? McQueen has lost a lot of weight as has Lagerfeld. Never made them design clothes for the more voluptuous woman when they themselves were clearly overweight.
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hortense
05/18/09

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Oprah saying "Yes, I will lose the weight to be on the cover of Vogue" is the reason why Oprah needs to stop trying to be the health/weight guru of the world.
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lalaland13
05/18/09

@hortense: I feel bad for Oprah, I really do. I think she, like a lot of women, has serious weight issues. But I'm afraid she's helping perpetuate the serious weight issues that other women have as well.

What bothers me (many things do) about Wintuor is her all or nothing mentality. Yes, many people could lose some weight. I am one of those. But I know how to "eat and exercise." The thing is, my job doesn't pay me to be thin. I get no bonuses for that. Which makes it a bit hard sometimes, ya know? Plus, I could lose 50 pounds and still not conform to your "ideal." Whatever that is.

Her complete disconnect from reality astonishes me.
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VioletBeauregarde: Party Pooper Extraordinaire
05/18/09

@hortense: She seems to think that constantly discussing it allows her viewers to relate to her, but there is just such a wave of self-hatred that comes along with her weight loss preaching, that I'm afraid she's doing more harm than good.
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zu_zu
05/18/09

@VioletBeauregarde: Party Pooper Extraordinaire: Yeah I think her method of figuring out the problem in public promotes a lot of unhealthy behavior. I remember when she had the huge show about the Carbohydrate Addicts Diet. That book was out of print at the time and had to be reprinted, our bookstore must have sold hundreds. We got hundreds more after another printing, but by then she had denounced it and as a result no one was buying. Her power over people's buying decisions is astounding.
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lalaland13
05/18/09

@zu_zu: Ohh I did that one. Or rather, my mom did, and I followed along for much of it. Don't think she saw it on Oprah-probably it was Oprah plugged it, so did everyone else, and thus mom got on board.
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