I thought I was doing well on this front, you know, living a good and simple life according to my upper-Midwestern values. But I'm moving out of my dorm room right now and can't fit all my stuff into my car (granted, it's a '94 saturn). The trunk is full of clothes. The passenger side is nothing but books. I have more toiletries than I ever thought possible. And like 16 pairs of shoes. WHAT HAPPENED?!?
I had to replace my last cellphone when I mysteriously lost it somewhere between leaving the house and arriving at work. My cringiest moment is coming to the realisation that I may have accidentally put it in a rubbish bin along with my rubbish. I hate some of my consumerist habits, and at the same time I am highly amused by my inability to buy anything other than old knitting patterns, girls' annuals, and coffee mugs from op shops. Seriously, that's where most of my income goes, after buying chocolate. Vegetables schmegetables.
as a kid, i never understood why fruit and nuts were in my christmas stockings. my 'santas' were depression babies and they got oranges in their stockings. now as an adult, i want oranges in mine, too.
I have replaced my cell phone exactly two times since I got one. First was in 2003, when my cell (bought in 2002) was stolen from my car (along with the CD player... as in, the one in the dash board. That was also replaced). The second was in 2005, when that cell phone suddenly stopped registering that I had pressed a button.
The cell phone I have now is that same cell phone I bought in 2004. And I'm about to get a new one, because this cell phone is doing that "Button? You pushed a button?" thing and causing me to dial things like "41" instead of "411" or "nghwjk" instead of whatever word it was I was trying to type in the first place.
And what will replace it? Whatever is most exactly like my beloved phone -- a phone with a decent display and texting capabilities, camera optional, NO EMAIL, NO INTERNET, NO NOTHING.
I have a lot of stuff and all of it is vital to me. Most of it is thrifty (aka cheap) but a lot of it is from my different travels. Memories are important to me and I would be devastated to give up my stuff.
I also need to live in an aesthetically pleasing place, which is where a lot of my cheap but cute things are for. My apartment in Dominica is better decorated after 3 months than friend's places back in the states.
So ultimately I have decided I *am* materialistic, but in a way that I am okay with.
@Elaken: Yes, I'm aesthetically materialistic. The walls of my place are covered with art that I love, and I have tons of books. I love, love, love my furniture. I get everything second hand, and I've put a lot of work into making my home someplace I love and that makes me comfortable.
What if you're like me and you don't really own much and your friends gape at the austerity of your lifestyle?
I have lots of nice big area rugs, but my bed is just a mattress on the floor. My "dining room" is a folding table and folding chairs. My "sofa" is a futon mattress thing on the floor, piled high with soft fluffy pillows and comforters. I don't own a car or a TV.
A lot of this was out of necessity--I'm living in a bachelorette pad after being in a cohabitative situation for several years, and all the furniture is still with the ex-cohabitant to whom it belongs.
But even though I don't have a lot of swanky new heavy hardwood furniture (that I would have had to buy on credit, most likely) everything is clean and soft and good-smelling, there's always a comfortable place to sit, I have just enough cookware/tableware/cutlery to make some kickass feasts. And yet, when I have friends over, they gape at the austerity of it. They can't imagine how I could possibly live like this. But IT WORKS. I have enough for me and that's all I need. Why in the world should I feel like I have to spend a few thousand for a matching hardwood dining room set? Why in the world should I get an enormous HD TV and matching entertainment center?
@tscheese: The greatest priority in my budgeting since I got my first apartment has been "does this make me feel comforted and safe?" Today my husband and I have a minimal hodgepodge of used, found, and Ikea furniture, and all we care is that we have lots of comfortable pillows and comforters and that everything is clean and warm and safe.
I will never forget moving to my first solo place after a horrible breakup after college. I moved to a tiny one bedroom with my childhood dresser, a futon, a $10 set of dishes from Target, one pot, some books, and a tiny tv. Eventually, I acquired a chair.
The first morning I woke up there, it was snowing outside, and I felt so safe and free and like I needed absolutely nothing more in the world.
(Well, okay, a job. That took another couple scary months.)
@tscheese: Well, we accept that you're better than us and hope you don't need to rub our noses in it all that often.
If you're happy with it, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. It strikes me as pretty rude for people to come into your house and remark on your austerity.
@TheFormerJuneBronson: I'm really not hoping to rub anyone's noses in my $12 folding Wal-mart table or my $200 bargain-basement mattress. I'm not superior for having these things--it just happens to work for me and, as you mentioned--that it does feel really weird when people comment on my austerity. I shouldn't feel pressured to buy a ton of shit just because people expect a young professional in her own bachelorette pad to have a ton of shit.
It's especially weird here in the NYC area. When they got their first apartments on their own (some of which were glamorous studio apartments in Manhattan, bankrolled by their parents) some of my peers went into insane amounts of debt to finance the sleekest sofas and chic chairs and biggest TVs and moodiest lighting. I'm the weirdo for being pretty happy with my flatpack stuff.
I didn't mean to come off as a minimalistic snob or pretending than I'm "better than" anyone.
@tscheese: I was just teasing you. I'm sorry; the sarcasm doesn't translate. I do know some people who are genuine austerity snobs, and I always find it kind of amusing to hear them reverse-competing. Often, it's in the context of greenness. I read something in the Globe ages ago about these people who built a perfectly hideous eco-friendly box in a historic neighborhood and talked on and on about how they have no TV, no art, no curtains, no rugs, no photos hanging. Made me think of Bender's apartment in the Robot Arms building. I bet they don't have any trouble finding their skin flakes.
@tscheese: I sent you a PM about this, but I totally know where you're coming from. Moving up to CT, I was dubbed "the frugal friend" amongst my new coworkers, who were shocked that I brought lunch every day to work and had a 13" TV/VCR combo, and used an albeit nice futon as a sofa (with a lovely wooden frame). While we have some nice things, a lot of those were out of luck (we have a giant TV that I got for $100 because my office didn't need it anymore and it was barely used as it was, and the big TV we had before that my husband inherited), and we have a shockingly large amount of IKEA furniture (mostly bookcases and tables). It was certainly strange for me--but I learned quickly that it's the norm when you work in the towns along the Metro-North.
It felt even weirder when I went to my new job, as everyone made significantly more than me and drove the cars to "prove" it. Fortunately, I scored some awesome guilt-ridden wedding gifts from them when I was laid off three weeks prior to the big day, so, bonus.
Over the last 7-8 years, I've been trying to reduce the "stuff" in my life. I have made several purges and it is an absolutely GREAT feeling to have less junk.
The bulk of my current stuff is books. I will never part with my books. Also, its been really hard for me to part with stuffed animals from childhood. I think its because my mom gave me most of them and she passed away 8 years ago.
Otherwise its an awesome feeling to get rid of things.
@gra: For a while I was watching Clean Sweep on TLC every Saturday morning, and that really helped me to separate my emotions from my stuff and do an annual purge so I don't get overwhelmed. Especially since my father is a hoarder, I'm aware of what a dangerous trap it is.
But I won't get rid of books, either. I consider books to be intellectual wealth. They don't take up space, they "inform" my apartment. And I have a bin of stuffed animals in my closet, but it's only one bin, so I think it's under control. Part of the lesson of that show is knowing when something isn't a problem and doesn't need to be ripped from your life.
I have always had a huge problem getting rid of silly little things. I used to have boxes and boxes of things that dated back to elementary school. One time my mom found a box of notes from junior high in my apartment and couldn't believe I still had it. Finally, the last time I moved, I sat down and went through everything and confined everything down to one or two boxes.
I've gotten much better about sorting through what to keep and what to throw out since then. I also refuse little knick knacks as gifts because that type of thing is where my problem started.
@say kaci: I always have a problem getting rid of clothing, even if I don't or shouldn't wear it anymore, because I attach memories to it. So the solution I devised is to once a year, go through all my closets and drawers and put everything I need to get rid of in a box and put that box in the back of my closet. The next year, that box goes straight to charity without being opened. If I haven't needed it in the past year, I really don't need it now, but if I open that box again the emotions will come flooding back. It may not be the most efficient, because it means keeping a box around for a year, but it works for me.
@gra: My father's hoarding makes my mother crazy. He routinely goes through the trash on the pretext of looking for things that could be recycled, but really he's making sure she's not throwing away his stuff. It was much worse when he was going to auctions on a regular basis. They recently remodeled their house and I was hoping that would be an excuse to get rid of stuff, but so far, no luck.
I like stuff, I'm not gonna lie. I have always loved knick knacks, and clothes, and art, and my apartment is a reflection of that. I find stuff cozy: minimalism makes me anxious.
This being said, my rule is that I can never get a bigger place just because I need the room (with the possible exception of having kids), nor can I rent a storage locker. There is no way I need more stuff than can fit in a 2 bedroom apartment.
On the plus side, the BBC reported that the lack of disposable income is creating incentive for couples to entertain themselves with sex, free of charge.
@daisen-in: Oh, dude, I totally see that happening. My boyfriend and I are trying to conserve money in case I get laid off. This leads to many Friday nights in the apartment...
My mother and I recently cleaned out our closets and took everything to the Salvation Army, or to Plato's. Although I no longer have a ridiculous amount of pairs of jeans to choose from, I feel better having a spare closet and just the stuff that I actually need/wear.
@sammyboombaladdy: Every year I give away everything (other than formal dresses) that I haven't worn in 2 years. It's very gratifying to keep my closets down to essentials and to not hang on to things I clearly don't need or want any more.
I'm sad about all the stuff I've accumulated not because it's crap, but because I associate it with all the money I've peed away all this time. Like for example: I've never been "trendy" when it comes to fashion, so 99% of my clothing I've had for years and years. Not that all of it fits anymore, mind. But there's just so much of it. Yet one of the things I miss most now that I'm unemployed and barely making bills is being able to buy whatever I wanted and not think twice about it. In other words, I look in my closet and see money. I look in my shoe-box and see money. I look at my adorable little car and see money. All of it being taken for granted in the past. When today, I'd like $500 to go on a spree at Trader Joes so I wouldnt have to go to the grocery every other night and worry that my debit card's gonna be declined. I hope all this means when I am solvent again, I'll be less inclined to go out and buy clothes, classic or no. Gah I hate it! I'm pissing+moaning about not being able to shop when there's humans who have to worry about not having any food. it makes me feel fortunate but also like an ungrateful asshat. Pleh.
@terribletwenties aka Aesop's Foibles: I hear you on all of it. My life before gradschool and my life now--well, I'm trying to live on the material spoils of the previous life because I don't have much choice, so I get to re-evealuate EVERY purchase I made then.
@terribletwenties aka Aesop's Foibles: I know what you mean. I've spent more of this past year unemployed than not, and the only way I've been able to make ends meet is to put everything on my credit card, of which I make the minimum payment each month. I'm watching myself falling further and further into debt, and the alternative is to starve or become homeless. And I look around my apartment and think, "that shelf. It's an okay shelf and I use it, but right now I'd rather have the $15." I bought it before I even got this apartment because I was so in a rush to get out of my old (cheaper) apartment that I started furnishing the new one before I really knew it existed. I'd sell some of my stuff, but I'm not convinced there's a market for any of it.
File this under "no shit." As someone who lives in a teeny tiny apartment, I am forced to live simply. And I like it! I don't have tons of stuff because I just don't have the space and it is very refreshing. Okay, honestly, I'm broke, so this is what I tell myself to feel better.
My mom always tells me about how the smell of oranges make her think of Christmas. And it makes me sad because the smell of new plastic is my Christmas smell. We have lost a lot of simple beauty in our materialistic excess.
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The cell phone I have now is that same cell phone I bought in 2004. And I'm about to get a new one, because this cell phone is doing that "Button? You pushed a button?" thing and causing me to dial things like "41" instead of "411" or "nghwjk" instead of whatever word it was I was trying to type in the first place.
And what will replace it? Whatever is most exactly like my beloved phone -- a phone with a decent display and texting capabilities, camera optional, NO EMAIL, NO INTERNET, NO NOTHING.
Look at me, bucking a trend!
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I also need to live in an aesthetically pleasing place, which is where a lot of my cheap but cute things are for. My apartment in Dominica is better decorated after 3 months than friend's places back in the states.
So ultimately I have decided I *am* materialistic, but in a way that I am okay with.
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I have lots of nice big area rugs, but my bed is just a mattress on the floor. My "dining room" is a folding table and folding chairs. My "sofa" is a futon mattress thing on the floor, piled high with soft fluffy pillows and comforters. I don't own a car or a TV.
A lot of this was out of necessity--I'm living in a bachelorette pad after being in a cohabitative situation for several years, and all the furniture is still with the ex-cohabitant to whom it belongs.
But even though I don't have a lot of swanky new heavy hardwood furniture (that I would have had to buy on credit, most likely) everything is clean and soft and good-smelling, there's always a comfortable place to sit, I have just enough cookware/tableware/cutlery to make some kickass feasts. And yet, when I have friends over, they gape at the austerity of it. They can't imagine how I could possibly live like this. But IT WORKS. I have enough for me and that's all I need. Why in the world should I feel like I have to spend a few thousand for a matching hardwood dining room set? Why in the world should I get an enormous HD TV and matching entertainment center?
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I will never forget moving to my first solo place after a horrible breakup after college. I moved to a tiny one bedroom with my childhood dresser, a futon, a $10 set of dishes from Target, one pot, some books, and a tiny tv. Eventually, I acquired a chair.
The first morning I woke up there, it was snowing outside, and I felt so safe and free and like I needed absolutely nothing more in the world.
(Well, okay, a job. That took another couple scary months.)
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If you're happy with it, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. It strikes me as pretty rude for people to come into your house and remark on your austerity.
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It's especially weird here in the NYC area. When they got their first apartments on their own (some of which were glamorous studio apartments in Manhattan, bankrolled by their parents) some of my peers went into insane amounts of debt to finance the sleekest sofas and chic chairs and biggest TVs and moodiest lighting. I'm the weirdo for being pretty happy with my flatpack stuff.
I didn't mean to come off as a minimalistic snob or pretending than I'm "better than" anyone.
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It felt even weirder when I went to my new job, as everyone made significantly more than me and drove the cars to "prove" it. Fortunately, I scored some awesome guilt-ridden wedding gifts from them when I was laid off three weeks prior to the big day, so, bonus.
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The bulk of my current stuff is books. I will never part with my books. Also, its been really hard for me to part with stuffed animals from childhood. I think its because my mom gave me most of them and she passed away 8 years ago.
Otherwise its an awesome feeling to get rid of things.
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But I won't get rid of books, either. I consider books to be intellectual wealth. They don't take up space, they "inform" my apartment. And I have a bin of stuffed animals in my closet, but it's only one bin, so I think it's under control. Part of the lesson of that show is knowing when something isn't a problem and doesn't need to be ripped from your life.
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I have always had a huge problem getting rid of silly little things. I used to have boxes and boxes of things that dated back to elementary school. One time my mom found a box of notes from junior high in my apartment and couldn't believe I still had it. Finally, the last time I moved, I sat down and went through everything and confined everything down to one or two boxes.
I've gotten much better about sorting through what to keep and what to throw out since then. I also refuse little knick knacks as gifts because that type of thing is where my problem started.
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@gra: My father's hoarding makes my mother crazy. He routinely goes through the trash on the pretext of looking for things that could be recycled, but really he's making sure she's not throwing away his stuff. It was much worse when he was going to auctions on a regular basis. They recently remodeled their house and I was hoping that would be an excuse to get rid of stuff, but so far, no luck.
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This being said, my rule is that I can never get a bigger place just because I need the room (with the possible exception of having kids), nor can I rent a storage locker. There is no way I need more stuff than can fit in a 2 bedroom apartment.
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And, is the upshot just that some women have a lot of clothes and handbags, no extra coin, and will therefore look dated in a few short months?
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As someone who lives in a teeny tiny apartment, I am forced to live simply. And I like it! I don't have tons of stuff because I just don't have the space and it is very refreshing.
Okay, honestly, I'm broke, so this is what I tell myself to feel better.
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