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    Image of J.D.Regent J.D.Regent
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    Anointed! Like Christ? So funny. I love your posts on the Kimberly Process in Zim and on the Goldstone scarves! Fashion matters, people. #ragtrade
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    Image of LvV LvV
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    I am not trying to be mean, but Lily Cole's cakes are probably not very good. Cooking allows for many freedoms (and that salad she's describing sounds delicious) but baking is a science and requires precise amounts to turn out properly.

    /cookie nerd #zoekravitz
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    Image of Ratinski Ratinski
    11/06/09

    @LvV: Definitely. One of my friends is a stellar cook and a terrible baker, because she can't just toss things in. She claims it's boring.

    I claim it's just as creative; you just have to be carefully creative. #zoekravitz
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    Image of Hana Maru Hana Maru
    11/07/09

    @LvV: I know a guy who bragged that he made awsome cakes just like Lily Cole, mixing this and that, and guessing the amounts. The one time I actually tasted his cake, it was dense and horrible, but I didn't have the heart to say so. He's a really nice, generous person. I suspect something similar's going on with Cole and her friends. #zoekravitz
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    Image of perfidia perfidia
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line

    Olivier Zahm: Definitely has Booger's hair. #zoekravitz
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    True confessions: I have actually worn the mary-kateandashley makeup. They made a really kick ass gold metallic eye shadow pencil that I used to rock in high school. #zoekravitz
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    Image of dj_chick dj_chick
    11/06/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: I still have a couple of their eyeshadows. I've had them for years and should probably toss them, but now it's like they're a relic or something ... #zoekravitz
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    Image of LBB LBB
    11/06/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: They had a peach flavored sparkly lip gloss that was *the shit*. I still have a tube of it somewhere... #zoekravitz
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    Image of Hana Maru Hana Maru
    11/07/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: I have too! I bought a bunch of it at once, like 5 years ago, because they had things packaged together and then they were buy one get one free, and they were cheap. It was good makeup, especially the lip gloss. I used everything until they were done and I still have the dark brown eyeliner.

    It is a little embarrassing. One of my friends peeked in my makeup bag and was like "I didn't know you were a Mary Kate and Ashley fan" #zoekravitz
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    I have very strong opinions about Eileen Fisher. I worked in a boutique that sold her things when I was in college and, regardless of the "image" she's going for (fuck, it's fashion), she IS a godsend to a lot of women. If you can sell a cute pair of linen drawstring pants in XS to a 19 year old like me and dress a size 22 who is 50 and a professional, you're doing something right.

    Fisher's ads feature a pretty wide range of women (ages, races and yes, sizes). She doesn't need to target the plus-size market because they already flock to her.

    Also, Rosie bugs me. Does Donna Karan go for a plus size image? No. #ragtrade
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    Image of lilyHaze lilyHaze
    11/06/09

    @Penny: It's not my kind of style, but Eileen Fisher clothing seems to be very well made. Many of the brands catering to plus sizes seem to be very cheaply made.

    If I go to a higher end department store and look at plus sizes, the style is very dowdy and matronly. There are young, plus size women who have the money to buy nice things.
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    hortense promoted this comment Edited by lilyHaze at 11/06/09 12:09 PM lilyHaze was starred lilyHaze was unstarred
    Image of Jenna Jenna
    11/06/09

    @Penny: I agree about the designs -- I actually love some of Eileen Fisher's pieces. (Most of them I stole from my mum, but you know.)

    However, it is true the company is consciously chasing a younger "hipper" customer -- they certainly collaborated with a Times article stating same -- and that strikes me as foolish.

    And if Fisher herself said what O'Donnell reports, to her very face, that is just downright mean.
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11/06/09

    @Jenna: Ah, well, I have admittedly not paid much attention to the company in recent years (besides seeing ads here and there). Bummer. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: But Rosie still bugs me :-) #zoekravitz
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    Image of ardentlilac ardentlilac
    11/06/09

    @Jenna: I agree. I'm not one to ditch good design willy nilly, but Fisher's rudeness to a happy, loyal customer tells me I shouldn't express any more gratitude to Eileen Fisher with my hard-earned money because clearly my fat behind insults her business.

    Famous person talking about and wearing your clothes = great advertising. Famous person telling fans how rude and ungrateful clothing designer is = bad advertising. That's how social media works, lady. #zoekravitz
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    Image of madeofawesome madeofawesome
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    Zac Efron can wear my favorite jeans for eight weeks to get them to look "perfectly lived-in." I don't mind. Honestly. #ragtrade
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    11/06/09

    @madeofawesome: I'd like to see if his theory works on my bed, and I'm willing to hire him to find out. #zoekravitz
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    Ugh, the Kimberley Process is worthless. #ragtrade
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    Image of DeedleDee DeedleDee
    11/06/09

    @pantsless economist...access RESTORED: A shiny rock is not worth the prices paid in human suffering. #zoekravitz
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    She's being knighted by President Obama...

    I didn't know the President was able to do this. Are we in England? #ragtrade
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    Image of Jenna Jenna
    11/06/09

    @Penny: "...And then, he's gonna make her Lady Wintour, Viscountess of 4 Times Square, and Marchioness of the Leaping Brazilians, and he'll take her as his vassal for Long Island, and then they'll all eat pizza and cupcakes." #zoekravitz
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    I was reading through the UK Vogue with Georgia May on the cover last night. It's literally the first time I have flipped through a magazine and felt frightfully old. #ragtrade
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    Image of labratintraining labratintraining
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    I can relate to Lily Cole's excitement about cooking. I just started cooking meals that are more complicated than "1.) Punch hole in plastic 2.) Put in microwave" and "Place meat in between two pieces of bread." I get really excited when I don't require recipes to get my food going. But I guess I usually only share this excitement with my boyfriend, and he kind of just gives me a skyped-pat on the head-look and proceeds to continue his tradition of cooking delicious food.

    And yeah, I actually remember Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen's make-up line. Probably because I was a pre-teen at the time it started and scanned the make-up aisle of Wal-Mart like I used to pace and analyze the toy aisle.
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    Penny promoted this comment Edited by labratintraining at 11/06/09 11:47 AM labratintraining was starred labratintraining was unstarred
    Image of Penny Penny
    11/06/09

    @labratintraining: I can relate to the excitement about salads. I make some rockin' salads. #zoekravitz
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    Image of dominique.blain dominique.blain
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    'calculate pi to the 100th decibel '

    ... now that made me laugh.
    (p.s. decimal :D )
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    Jenna promoted this comment dominique.blain was starred dominique.blain was unstarred
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    11/06/09

    @dominique.blain: I suppose if a gifted person sang her mental calculation of pi, you could say it'd be to the 100th decibel.

    (NEED. COFFEE.) #zoekravitz
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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    11/06/09

    In reply to Zoe Kravitz For Vera; Mary-Kate & Ashley Close Beauty Line
    How can a rapist inspire anything but mortal dread? That is so inappropriate, even if he was her brother. #ragtrade
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    Image of scarletwine scarletwine
    10/21/09

    In reply to Relatively Wise Words From Relatively Reasonable Fashion Icon
    I'm not really buying that Vogue doesn't know exactly what they'll be getting when a model shows up for a shoot. Agents keep pretty close tabs on their girls, and if Vogue was so alarmed by a girl who walked in the door significantly thinner than the girl they booked, don't they have some backup measures? This shoulder-shrugging, hands-off, "well, it's not really our fault; these little girls are so headstrong!" excuses aren't sitting well with me. #gracecoddington
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    Image of Tchotchke Tchotchke
    10/21/09

    In reply to Relatively Wise Words From Relatively Reasonable Fashion Icon
    Why does the fashion industry always engage in a game of hot potato with this issue? Every damn quote about this topic always covers the same things: yeah, the models are too thin and many of them having eating disorders; you need to understand that the fashion industry is about illusion and aspiration, not a reflection as life as we live it; I try to do my part, but you need to understand, the designers/editors/agents/hairstylists/photographers/dog walkers/ janitors prefer to work with thinner girls....and so on.

    Jesus, for once could they just admit that they all consiously play a role in this game? I like Grace and I appreciate her touching upon the role age plays in this game, but give me a break. #gracecoddington
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    Image of smashsparkle smashsparkle
    10/21/09

    @Tchotchke: I tend to agree. I keep reading all these pieces about people in the fashion world who agree (Karl "No one wants to look at fat people" Lagerfield, notwithstanding) that these models are too thin, that there is a problem, etc. etc. but no one, even these very influential people, are offering no solutions and silly platitudes, suggesting that they probably don't see it as a problem at all. I agree, Coddington does make a bit more sense than most, but I still don't get much of substance out of this. #gracecoddington
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    Image of Trulymadlyme Trulymadlyme
    10/21/09

    In reply to Relatively Wise Words From Relatively Reasonable Fashion Icon
    And because they're kids, they take it too far, and they can't regulate their lives, and next thing you know they're anorexic, and it is tragic.

    I found this comment to be odd. Because avoiding an eating disorder isn't as simple as maturity and regulating yourself. Very odd. #gracecoddington
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    Image of Penny Penny
    10/21/09

    @Trulymadlyme: I found it odd as well. However, when you think about the environment (far away from parents, friends, weird hours, etc.) it could factor in to one's mental state. Not sure if that's where she was going, though. #gracecoddington
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    Image of Trulymadlyme Trulymadlyme
    10/21/09

    @Penny: I dunno. It almost felt like the way people talk about substance abuse. Like the school of thought that addiction doesn't exist, there's just a need to moderate usage in a mature manner. Some about that comment just felt off. #gracecoddington
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    10/21/09

    @Trulymadlyme: I totally agree regarding avoiding an eating disorder, but I was thinking she was referring to the age issue in the way of influence. As a recovered anorexic, I know the disease is not as easy as someone telling you to be thinner and you spiraling downward. However, I think when you are quite young, and maybe not as grown into or sure of yourself as you eventually would be, you may be more susceptible to taking someone's words or opinion much more seriously. Especially in a situation where you are trying to "make it," as a 15 year old, I think I would have been much more unsure of telling someone off than I would be at 22.

    I hope that makes sense, it's been a rough day. #gracecoddington
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    Image of SpyMagician SpyMagician
    10/21/09

    @Trulymadlyme: Well, maturity is one thing. But physical metabolism and age differences in metabolism is another.

    When you are younger you can definitely abuse your bodies in different ways and not feel the repercussions ever if at all. It's only when you get past 25—when your metabolism shifts—that you simply can't eat/drink/do things the same without it truly affecting your life and health. #gracecoddington
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    Image of Schrodinger's Cat Schrodinger's Cat
    10/21/09

    @skatez: It makes a lot of sense. When you're so young, trying to break into this impossibly cliquish business, and unsure of yourself, people will take advantage of your tenuous foothold.

    That's how it is in any career. Any request for basic needs is met with:
    "You knew what you were getting into with this industry. You know how the economy is these days! Aren't you a team player? Do you want this job or not?!" #gracecoddington
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    Image of mb mb
    10/21/09

    @Trulymadlyme: I read it as she meant that they don't know enough to do things like avoid triggers...? Not snort cocaine because you don't fully understand the risks...? #gracecoddington
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    Image of thelandlady thelandlady
    10/21/09

    @Trulymadlyme: I think there's truth to this. The complete loss of control that must accompany being a brand new, young model and having everyone else choose everything for you, schedule everything, and the only thing you're in charge of is losing another inch or 2 off your thighs. #gracecoddington
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    Image of pmarble pmarble
    10/21/09

    @mb: Yes, and I read it as a veiled reference to these young girls taking drugs to stay thin -- which is probably not something she can say outright. #gracecoddington
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