Quesiton: I have a 14-year-old cousin who is going through a very rough period (family finances and instability, feeling very insecure about herself and her body), and I just found out that she's started cutting herself. This is new to me, but I'm someone she seems to connect with, and I would love some input.
For those Jezzies who have had experience with self-harm, any advise on what I should say/do? I'm concerned about her in general, but how concerned should I be about this specific behavior?
@LaMorena: well, i can only speak for myself, a former self-cutter and hair-puller back in h.s., that there is no real easy answer. i guess my advice would be to talk to her and find out why she's doing it. for me it was because of underlying issues, not necessarily bodily issues but more emotional. the first step would be to find out why she is doing it. then from there it's all about building her self-esteem.
@LaMorena: I don't want to trivialize it, but I don't think you need to be overly concerned by the cutting specifically, more about why she's doing it. As a cutter for many years I never actually wanted to kill myself or inflict major harm, it was just the only way I knew how to feel in control. Just hang out with her and be there for her, let her know she can ALWAYS call you no matter what time of day if she's feeling like harming herself. Sometimes I just needed someone to talk me down and tell me it would be okay. Self injury is an incredibly lonely act and often I just wanted someone to hold me and tell me I wasn't alone.
@acrobatic rabbit: Thanks. We have girls' days together pretty frequently, including one coming up this weekend. I'm hoping to get her talking, and am also working with my extended family to get her some therapy. She's SUCH a kind, sweet person, but she has a very low opinion of herself.
While never cutting myself, I would hit myself when I was upset... I would punch my thighs and shins until I felt better. It would leave bruises, but since I was such a tomboy my mother never really questioned me more than "Oh, Divine...Another bruise? Please try to be more ladylike..." Or some such thing.
I also systematically pulled my hair our. It's called trichitillomania. I would be bored, and next thing you know, fistfuls of hair all around me. Apparently it's a behavior related to OCD/ anorexia, in that people who do it are trying to control something when they feel as though they can not control their general environments.
I didn't and still don't really have issues with my shape or size... I don't know why I did it really...I just stopped one day...I think I discovered slam poetry as an outlet (advised by my therapist.) That really helped me.
Let me preface this by saying: I am smart, attractive, and well rounded. I am not dramatic or attention-seeking. I have never talked about my cutting like this but watching this clip forced me to. Cutting does NOT necessarily correlate with self-loathing. I cut for the first time when I was in seventh grade, and have been doing it on and off for eight years. For many, it is simply a cathartic experience -- a release of adrenaline when we need it. I love myself, I just go a little crazy sometimes and one cut is the only thing that can calm me down. Many girls (and guys) share this view on self-harm. Not all SHers are teenage girls with low self-esteem looking at pictures of Megan Fox in Seventeen and actually believing that to be the norm.
And it definitely (especially with cathartic cutters) can lead to suicide.
Every girl I know who cuts (or did cut) herself has told me it's about seeking an emotional release, trying to feel something physically intense to shut off emotionally intense things, or just about control. None of them has ever told me it was about feeling un-pretty. I think the media flatters itself to think it is the cause of every ill plaguing young women (although it certainly doesn't help in most cases).
Here's something I've always wondered - we're always so quick to vilify the media and say that violent movies and songs about dark things drive young people to commit crimes and unspeakable acts. But no one has ever credited a John Lennon song for bringing about the good in people, or said that movies with happy endings make people more likely to commit random acts of kindness. Shouldn't these things flow both ways? If photoshopped magazines have the ability to make me feel like crap about myself, don't they also hold the potential to make me a better person, theoretically? Personally, I don't believe they do have the ability to influence my life so much, so it seems like a load of BS to keep blaming outside forces for things going on with individuals.
I can't find the link on the Economist website right now, but a few issues ago they did have a summary of a study that showed that those influences can flow both ways. It was a study in which teens played either a video game where cooperation and helpfulness was awarded, a more typically violent and competitive game, or a control puzzle/tetris type game. Then they were told to select puzzles for another teen to solve, and told that the other person would be rewarded money for the number of puzzles they solved. Teens who had regularly been playing the cooperation game were more likely to pick out easy puzzles; the competitive game was linked to selecting difficult puzzles. There were also some other tests and controls set up.
I think it's impossible to NOT say outside influences effect individuals. If they didn't, it wouldn't be so easy to create social norms and culture.
I cut daily for about a year in college. Although I did (and still do) have body image issues, that was a very small part of the cutting. I was severely depressed and overwhelmed with anxiety. During the frequent times that I could only curl up on the floor, listening to the screaming in my head, cutting was an outlet: it calmed me down and allowed to me to function. I'm inclined to think that the unhappiness I felt about my body was a symptom of the depression rather than it's cause.
I've recently been through another round of depression. (I seem to have the genetics for it.) This time, although I very definitely experienced body image issues, I wasn't particularly inclined to cut.
I agree that photoshopping is an issue, but I think that blaming it for self-injury is an oversimplification that ignores key issues.
Not only is the air brushing in ladymags the main cause of self-injury in young women, airbrushing is also solely responsible for global warming, cancer, the Mexican drug war, the failure of small family businesses, the show My Super Sweet 16, mass euthanization of the elderly and wrinkled, email spam, AIDS, deforestation, unemployment, fatness, Republicanism, thinness, the Tobasco-infused icicle up Ann Coulter's ass, poverty, bestiality, Kim Jong Il, racism, facsim, and cankles.
It seems that, once again, the issue of self-injury is belittled in the media. Like with ED's, SI can have several contributing factors and triggers.
For example, books featuring perfect little characters with happy endings contributed to mine.
I still agree that we can point a finger at photoshopping in magazines as causing a plethora of problems, not just cutting.
i get what dr. snyderman is saying, but did anyone else get the sense that it's a little omg, the media makes girls cut?
to me, cutting is less, i'm not pretty and i will mutilate my ugly body but more, oh god, my emotions are running so high and i can't express them and i can't turn this off and if i feel pain i can feel something else - relief, pain, calm, something i can name. i would love to hear from people who have struggled with self-harm for their views.
that said, young women are bombarded with so much bullshit that media images can be a factor in getting to the point of feeling so dysregulated emotionally, but i would throw in too the minimization of women's feelings - if you're angry, you're a bitch, if you're sad, you're being irrational, if you're upset, you're unladylike. young men too - i think of kids who bang their heads when they are feeling overwhelmed.
i think we would be better off not by banning photoshop, but by allowing women to express their emotions without belittling them, facilitating coping strategies, and treating underlying issues, rather than reducing a really distressing activity to "the media makes her not like her body, poor thing, let's stop them from hurting her".
@funzette: It's so tempting to assume that if we harm our bodies it's directly because we don't like our bodies or we hate ourselves. I can't speak for anyone else, but in my experience, anorexia (often compared to cutting, and often triggered by similar things), has a lot MORE to do with control than it has to do with body image, though certainly not always.
In my case, it was entirely due to feeling completely out of control and trapped. I could control what I ate, therefore I did. Once I was out of that negative situation, I gained ten pounds and stayed at a healthy weight since. In other words, my own eating issues had everything to do with control and my life. Once I took control of my life and was able to make decisions about myself and my body, the anorexia stopped being an issue. It was no longer tempting to count calories or restrict - I didn't feel a need to do it anymore.
My point here is that it's dangerous to make these sweeping generalizations about why people hurt themselves. Yes, there IS a body issue, but it's not the only issue, and instead of trying to understand the cause from experts and tv shows and morning talk television, why not ask the people who are doing it? Almost invariably body issues are a symptom of something else, but not ALWAYS.
@funzette: Yes. I agree. Although I can't speak for anyone else, when I struggled with cutting in my teenage years, it was tied closely to my depression, the cause of which was not teen magazines, but rather feeling trapped in a life of expectations I didn't agree with (Dad) and feeling like the world was just a horrible place - that people were mean and horrible to each other. When I cut, it kept me anchored to my body in a time when my emotions ran so high, I felt like my heart was going to break and my soul was going to float out. Cutting gave me something concrete to focus on - real, sharp, physical pain that I could handle, versus the all-encompassing and nebulous emotional pain I didn't have methods of coping with.
I can't say whether other girls might be triggered by the media, but that definitely wasn't it for me. It had way more to do with my own life, my own father's expectations of me than the media's expectations of what a woman should be like.
Most of the other cutters I met (and they came out of the woodwork when I shared my scars, which I did, openly) were people who didn't give two shits about magazines. Goth girls, farm boys, girls who would rather run around smoking and screwing than spend a day shopping and flipping through fashion mags.
I actually think I'm more self-conscious of my body now (at 25), when I have a job and there are unspoken rules about what to wear, how to look, etc., to be respected - than I did at 17, when I could dress however the hell I wanted and be totally authentic and creative and make no apologies. Cutting had nothing to do with my body and everything to do with my emotions.
I know someone who goes into a spiral of despair, self-harming, etc. every time she encounters a depiction of an alcoholic and violent personality, whether it's in a news story, music video, novel, etc. As you can probably guess, she had a pretty fucked up childhood - but I certainly don't think that those characters she sees (or any other trigger) is the cause of her problem.
I do agree that the extent of the photoshopping is messed up, and that it results in unrealistic body image. But I think if that acts as a trigger for self-harming, there is definitely something more going on.
The magazines giveth and the magazines taketh away. The popularity of photoshop has also seen a huge rise in photographs of the same age defying glamour pusses looking distinctly humdrum when snapped "off duty." Surely if someone cuts themselves because they hate their body they are suffering from a form of body-dysmorphic disorder and would feel the same even without exposure to modern magazines?
I still think that any image that has been significantly photoshopped should have a warning label on it. It's truly criminal how much of it goes on. Nothing is real anymore.
@girlrobot is a TIER 2 GANGSTA: Was it ever? The screen goddesses of Hollywood’s golden era were airbrushed and lit to perfection too. Likewise, portrait painters were notorious for flattering the sitter rather than showing the unvarnished truth. Every era and culture has its standards of feminine beauty which few can achieve. In one sense there was even greater pressure on young girls in the past to make the most of their youthful good looks before they became too old for the marriage market. I would be interested to know whether "cutting" is a modern phenomena as I cannot recall rearing about it in the literature of previous centuries. However, people used to self harm as a form of religious penance, scourging their backs and wearing spiked belts that bit into their flesh. But like cutters, they concealed their flesh wounds from others.
If someone is going to cut themselves because they can't live with not being as pretty as the photoshopped girls in magazines (or even other girls in real life, because there's always going to be someone prettier and thinner than you anyway)... then there's a lot more going on with that girl than can be blamed on the magazines.
I mean, yeah, there's a lot wrong with those magazines- but this seems a little Twinkie Defense to me.
@Notes from the underwhelmed: Yeah, that seems way too shallow to me. I'd say self-mutilation has been around a lot longer than Photoshop has. I think people could have body issues even if they never read a magazine in their life.
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For those Jezzies who have had experience with self-harm, any advise on what I should say/do? I'm concerned about her in general, but how concerned should I be about this specific behavior?
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I also systematically pulled my hair our. It's called trichitillomania. I would be bored, and next thing you know, fistfuls of hair all around me. Apparently it's a behavior related to OCD/ anorexia, in that people who do it are trying to control something when they feel as though they can not control their general environments.
I didn't and still don't really have issues with my shape or size... I don't know why I did it really...I just stopped one day...I think I discovered slam poetry as an outlet (advised by my therapist.) That really helped me.
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And it definitely (especially with cathartic cutters) can lead to suicide.
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I can't find the link on the Economist website right now, but a few issues ago they did have a summary of a study that showed that those influences can flow both ways. It was a study in which teens played either a video game where cooperation and helpfulness was awarded, a more typically violent and competitive game, or a control puzzle/tetris type game. Then they were told to select puzzles for another teen to solve, and told that the other person would be rewarded money for the number of puzzles they solved. Teens who had regularly been playing the cooperation game were more likely to pick out easy puzzles; the competitive game was linked to selecting difficult puzzles. There were also some other tests and controls set up.
I think it's impossible to NOT say outside influences effect individuals. If they didn't, it wouldn't be so easy to create social norms and culture.
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I've recently been through another round of depression. (I seem to have the genetics for it.) This time, although I very definitely experienced body image issues, I wasn't particularly inclined to cut.
I agree that photoshopping is an issue, but I think that blaming it for self-injury is an oversimplification that ignores key issues.
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For example, books featuring perfect little characters with happy endings contributed to mine.
I still agree that we can point a finger at photoshopping in magazines as causing a plethora of problems, not just cutting.
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to me, cutting is less, i'm not pretty and i will mutilate my ugly body but more, oh god, my emotions are running so high and i can't express them and i can't turn this off and if i feel pain i can feel something else - relief, pain, calm, something i can name. i would love to hear from people who have struggled with self-harm for their views.
that said, young women are bombarded with so much bullshit that media images can be a factor in getting to the point of feeling so dysregulated emotionally, but i would throw in too the minimization of women's feelings - if you're angry, you're a bitch, if you're sad, you're being irrational, if you're upset, you're unladylike. young men too - i think of kids who bang their heads when they are feeling overwhelmed.
i think we would be better off not by banning photoshop, but by allowing women to express their emotions without belittling them, facilitating coping strategies, and treating underlying issues, rather than reducing a really distressing activity to "the media makes her not like her body, poor thing, let's stop them from hurting her".
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In my case, it was entirely due to feeling completely out of control and trapped. I could control what I ate, therefore I did. Once I was out of that negative situation, I gained ten pounds and stayed at a healthy weight since. In other words, my own eating issues had everything to do with control and my life. Once I took control of my life and was able to make decisions about myself and my body, the anorexia stopped being an issue. It was no longer tempting to count calories or restrict - I didn't feel a need to do it anymore.
My point here is that it's dangerous to make these sweeping generalizations about why people hurt themselves. Yes, there IS a body issue, but it's not the only issue, and instead of trying to understand the cause from experts and tv shows and morning talk television, why not ask the people who are doing it? Almost invariably body issues are a symptom of something else, but not ALWAYS.
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I can't say whether other girls might be triggered by the media, but that definitely wasn't it for me. It had way more to do with my own life, my own father's expectations of me than the media's expectations of what a woman should be like.
Most of the other cutters I met (and they came out of the woodwork when I shared my scars, which I did, openly) were people who didn't give two shits about magazines. Goth girls, farm boys, girls who would rather run around smoking and screwing than spend a day shopping and flipping through fashion mags.
I actually think I'm more self-conscious of my body now (at 25), when I have a job and there are unspoken rules about what to wear, how to look, etc., to be respected - than I did at 17, when I could dress however the hell I wanted and be totally authentic and creative and make no apologies. Cutting had nothing to do with my body and everything to do with my emotions.
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I do agree that the extent of the photoshopping is messed up, and that it results in unrealistic body image. But I think if that acts as a trigger for self-harming, there is definitely something more going on.
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I mean, yeah, there's a lot wrong with those magazines- but this seems a little Twinkie Defense to me.
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