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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/02/09

    In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
    People don't want to see crappy hand-drawn animation in a theatre. If you're going to have a crappy story and crappy art, save it for TV - someone might like it. Or not, there's plenty of great animated TV series that have failed to find an audience, most often, because they never air a full 1st season, and no regular timeslot.

    In the cinema, a good story can augment any film. However unknown the cast, however unfamiliar the aesthetic, setting, or language - a good story, if it can be told, will prevail - word-of-mouth alone will buoy it up.
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    Image of phantom lady phantom lady
    11/02/09

    In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
    A friend of mine worked on this movie and I can't wait to see it! Unfortunately, since the studios aren't all on board for the hand-drawn animation, when the work it done, he doesn't work until the next movie comes along. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon. Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.
    11/02/09

    In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
    I've always felt like the lone hater when it comes to CG animation. Good to see somebody else trying to get hand-drawn work back on the screens. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Dictator for Life Dictator for Life
    11/02/09

    @Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.: I don't like it either. And it doesn't help that most CG movies seem to be about bugs or aliens or monsters, when all I want to see in a cartoon is a fairy tale. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Kitty Kitty
    11/02/09

    @Everything MidnightBikeRide does is a balloon.: Trust me, from someone in the business. You are not alone :) #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of RiloKilo RiloKilo
    11/02/09

    In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
    I love beautiful, hand drawn animation, but most of the Disney flicks since... I don't know, maybe Mulan, have simply looked boring, and as if less care has been taken in their animation. It seems like Disney is now in the business of churning out crappy sequels to all their good movies (how many Peter Pan and Little Mermaid sequels are there now??). I really, really hope The Frog Princess is good and a return to classic Disney! In any case, it does look gorgeous.
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    hortense promoted this comment Edited by RiloKilo at 11/02/09 1:53 PM RiloKilo was starred RiloKilo was unstarred
    Image of Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny. Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
    11/02/09

    In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
    I am excited for the SONGS!!!! I love musicals. I can't wait for a new generation of little girls to get their very own, "Part of your world" #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of hortense hortense
    11/02/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: This, too! I hope the songs are good. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of midwestdesigner midwestdesigner
    11/02/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: I can burst into song in front of any woman 'of a certain age' and she will not only be able to recite every word of that song, but sing it with passion. Ariel FTW. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of jhuang jhuang
    11/02/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: me too! I've heard one related song -- Never Knew I Needed by Ne-Yo -- it's not exactly the sing-along type but it's so cute nonetheless. And the video has a subtle tie-in to the movie. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny. Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
    11/02/09

    @midwestdesigner: So true. I used to have sing offs with my cousin (I am so the better Ariel but she wouldn't admit it) #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of lilyHaze lilyHaze
    11/02/09

    @midwestdesigner: I want to live in a world where it is acceptable to burst into song in order to describe your emotions. Musical monologues are also part of this world. Spontaneous, choregraphed numbers are mandatory. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of midwestdesigner midwestdesigner
    11/02/09

    @lilyHaze: Me too! Additionally, I would actually have a good singing voice in this magical world. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of lilyHaze lilyHaze
    11/02/09

    @midwestdesigner: Obviously people can sing in tune in this magical world. In fact, they sing beautifully. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of lilyHaze lilyHaze
    11/02/09

    In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
    You are awesome, John Lasseter.

    Love,
    Pixar's bitch

    I never tuned into Pixar movies because of the flashy graphics. I took a Computer Graphics elective in college, and we watched all of their shorts in class. I was too absorbed by the story to study the technical details.
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    Image of hortense hortense
    11/02/09

    In reply to "You Have Never Met A Group Of Artists More Dedicated To Proving Something Than The Artists Who Did The Princess And The Frog."
    This is so true. The Disney hand-drawn films that bombed (things seemed to drop off after Pocahontas, I think) were just dull, from what I remember. The story was missing. Pixar movies are great because they understand the importance of storytelling. There are a TON of crappy computer-animated films out there, and no amount of technical wizardry can rescue them from their basic problem, which is that the story itself is lousy. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of vamvaki_poulaki vamvaki_poulaki
    11/02/09

    @hortense: It's amazing how Pixar manages to make their films more beautiful, more detailed and have a really good story, it just proves that you can have your cake and eat it too. I'll be first in line to buy Up! next week.
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    Image of OneBigPear OneBigPear
    11/02/09

    @hortense: I agree with the bulk of this. Mulan was fantastic though, and I MUCH prefer it to Pocahontas.

    But I do think there was a disconnect in Disney marketing for a while. More in the 2000's. I had no interest in seeing Atlantis, for example, but I rented or borrowed it at some point and really enjoyed it.

    I am excited to see TPATF, partly because of the more classical animation. I hope the storytelling is good too though! :) #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of hortense hortense
    11/02/09

    @OneBigPear: I didn't even know there was an Atlantis, so you're probably right. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    11/02/09

    @hortense: Let us not forget The Emperor's New Groove, which is WAY under-appreciated and underrated. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Chrysocolla Chrysocolla
    11/02/09

    @LaComtesse: That's the only "Recent" Disney movie I like. All of the others I've been really disappointed with. TENG is just hilarious, both adults and children can laugh at it. Great movie. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    11/02/09

    @Chrysocolla: "Why do we even HAVE that lever?!" #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of JerseyGrrrl JerseyGrrrl
    11/02/09

    @LaComtesse: YES! The Emperor's New Groove is my FAVORITE. Kronk never fails to amuse me with his blithe silliness and sudden brilliance :) #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of BytheSea BytheSea
    11/02/09

    @LaComtesse: Road to El Dorado ftw, esp if you're the slashy type. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of GeorgeFayne GeorgeFayne
    10/07/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    I wasn't excited about this movie until I heard John Goodman's voice. Apparently, I will do anything for Dan Connor.
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    Image of Cimorene Cimorene
    10/06/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    It's pretty. I just really, really hate the whole, "if you work hard, you can do anything!" It's like--if that's really, actually true, then why are there people in big mansions, and then people in small little shack-like houses? Is it because the people in the big mansions just work harder than the people in the small houses? Does that mean that Daddy #2 doesn't really try as hard as Daddy #1?

    I know it's a small nitpick in a movie full of more problematic stereotypes. But sometimes I feel like having a toothless southern mosquito as the first black princess's companion is such a caricature that it's obvious what's fucked up about it. Stuff like this, that isn't as obvious, is what keeps these narratives and fantasies of equality going. Believing that hard work = success without qualifier, or hard work brings "whatever you want in life," is what makes people think homeless people are just lazy, and what makes people think that we live in a post-racial world. Post-misogyny, post-racial, post-classist, fantasy world. And subtly putting it into movies like this just indoctrinates most people, perpetuating the status quo.

    But I suppose that's every disney movie for you.
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    Image of mbot says Spock yeah! mbot says Spock yeah!
    10/06/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    This has a very Cinderella look to it, especially #3 with the pink bow. I looove the old Disney and am pleasantly surprised by how rich these illustrations are looking.
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    Image of pesematology pesematology
    10/06/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    Those hand-drawn animations got me. I wasn't so excited but now I'm psyched.
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    Image of TallyCola TallyCola
    10/06/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    Man you gotta read Bayou!

    [www.zudacomics.com]

    A little black girl (Lee) and a little white girl are best friends in the 1920s deep south (Louisiana?) and the little white girl is kidnapped by mythical monsters. Lee's doting father is blamed for the white girl's disappearance so Lee has to go on a crazy journey to both save her friend and her father. It's AWESOME but also pretty brutal and definitely not disney. I wish it were a show though, it would definitely be up there with A:TLA for me.
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    Image of girlface girlface
    10/06/09

    @TallyCola: I just read Bayou, or at least all of it thats posted. And you were right, it is so awesome! Great recommendation!
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    10/06/09

    @TallyCola: I just sat down and read all of what's posted so far, and WOW. Thank you so much for the recommendation and link!
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    Image of boxspelunker boxspelunker
    10/06/09

    @TallyCola: Your mentions of A:TLA sold me on this!
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    10/06/09

    @boxspelunker: I could do nothing but mention A:TLA all day long!
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    10/06/09

    @jpb0723: @wtfox?!: you're welcome! It's quite excellent!
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    Image of SaturdaysChild SaturdaysChild
    10/06/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    The video is no longer available! :(
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    10/06/09

    @SaturdaysChild: Sad face right with you.
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    Image of DaniFae DaniFae
    10/06/09

    @SaturdaysChild: Joining the sad face party. Though, I think I'll live, happy father daughter interaction always throws me into a jealous rage.
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    Image of Dodai Dodai
    10/06/09

    @DaniFae: Try here.
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    Image of alovesomething alovesomething
    10/06/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    Twelfth coolest thing about "The Princess & The Frog?

    Disney has awarded the manufacturing, branding/marketing/distribution contract for beauty and hair care products associated with this film to Carol's Daughter.

    More detail at Afrobella.com:
    http://www.afrobella.com/2009/09/25/products-for-little-black-princesses.../
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    10/06/09

    @alovesomething:
    Holy cute! And that brand has some awesome smellin' stuff.
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    10/06/09

    @alovesomething: Get out! That is awesome!
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    Image of the glamwich the glamwich
    10/06/09

    In reply to 11 Cool Things From The Princess And The Frog
    this is my first time commenting, so i'll keep it brief.

    as a twentysomething black woman i have got to say that seeing this gets me a little misty [on a much smaller scale but, in the same part of my heart barack obama lives in]. i'm glad that finally [hopefully] there will be an image conceived by an international mega-studio that represents the experience of me and my family. i could get into 55 nit-picky issues i have with this movie but, the little girl inside me really hopes they pull this off.

    if nothing else, the art direction looks stellar, and for the first time in a long time it looks like Disney is trying to make a movie and not just hock ideas to sell trapper keepers and sugary cereal.
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    10/06/09

    @the glamwich: Hearted.
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    Image of JerseyGrrrl JerseyGrrrl
    10/06/09

    @the glamwich: well said! Stick around, huh?
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