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o-line
08/07/09

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Oh great. Now my memories of our field trip to Cahokia Mounds is tainted with the knowledge that I was playing footsie with a cute boy over a mass grave.
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bluebears
08/07/09

@o-line: hotttt.
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badmutha
08/07/09

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HA! Take that you abstinence only people. All the sluts lived and the virgins got sacrificed. Only the good die young!
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virgikneecap
08/07/09

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Yeah this is about an hour from me. Endless field trips there. They better mention this on my next visit.
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dj_chick
08/07/09

@virgikneecap: How have I never heard of this?! It sounds badass, and will have to go on my list of places to visit, right up there with Chichen Itza and Tenotchtitlan.
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Cunning_Linguist
08/07/09

@dj_chick: I'm so embarrassed that I've never heard of this. I want to know more!
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morninggloria
08/07/09

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It's a good thing that McFly never accidentally flew the Delorean to Cahokia. Things would have taken a heavy turn.
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bluebears
08/07/09

@morninggloria: but more importantly what ancient mode of transport would he have turned into a skateboard in order to escape a meso-american Biff?
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meritxell: an erotic life
08/07/09

@bluebears: Great-great-great-great-great-grandmom..., is that you?
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velvet.fistfull of love
08/07/09

In reply to Of Human Bondage
Welcome to the ancient world! And in 3...2...1 Erich von Daeneken will claim that this monumental work is that of extraterrestrials. Because early indigenous brown folks could never architecht something so remarkable, duh. /sarcasm
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bluebears
08/07/09

@velvet.fistfull of love: GAH! BF and I watched this ridiculous program on the History Channel a couple weeks ago about how aliens built all ancient cities and I was like, "holy shit! this is racist." The whole argument was basically, "how could the have figured out a way to build this without alien intervention?" um...because they had normal human brains and invented shit? Like EVERY CULTURE THATS EVER EXISTED? Only ancient Europeans could invent?
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Yahtzii
08/07/09

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I had no idea this existed until just now. Thanks, Jezebel!

They sound very similar both architecturally and culturally to the Aztecs of Central Mexico, and the picture above reminded me of Teotihuacan, an ancient (and incredibly cool) city just outside of Mexico City. It was built centuries before any of the other pre-Columbian civilizations, and it's thought to have greatly influenced the Mayans and just about every other native culture in Latin America. I wonder how far its influence spread.

Man, now I kind of wish I was back in college, where I got credit for hours of pointless research.
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wednesdayam
08/07/09

@Yahtzii: I'm dying to get to Teotihuacan someday. But in the mean time, I'm thinking of starting a garden and doing a bit of dabbling into a pre-Columbian diet. I mean, the native goodies they had over here were so varied and incredibly healthy (in fact, there are studies that indicate the native people were actually a few inches taller back then than they are now because of the diet, as opposed to what the diet became after the Spaniards arrived) - I'll just have to add a little garlic, onions, lime and cumin though to the mix, because I love them so.
A nice little list here at Wikipedia: [en.wikipedia.org]
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wilmawonker
08/07/09

@Yahtzii: people have tried to make links, but there hasn't been anything particularly strong yet. people all over the world created complex societies independently, and the uniqueness is often much greater than the similarities.
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Yahtzii
08/07/09

@wednesdayam: A scientist (well, I think he was actually a dentist) named Westin A. Price studied native cultures all over the world and found them to be by far the healthiest people in the world, way more so than their "civilized" counterparts, in large part because of their diet. Even people like Michael Pollan still cite that research in the newer books about unprocessed food. You should definitely check out In Defense of Food.

Teotihuacan is stunning, and SO SO SO worth the trip. It's a short bus trip outside of Mexico City, and you will treasure the pictures of you posing goofily on top of the pyramids.
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wilmawonker
08/07/09

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there are several books on cahokia, actually. and while it's an amazing place, i think it's awesomeness has a lot more to do with the 100 + other mounds that didn't have the unusual burials, and the large scale solar calendar known as woodhenge, rather than the one mound that did have the unusual burials. y'all should visit, it's amazing.
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queenieinmanhattan
12/11/08

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As a religion major who wrote her thesis on Mary of Magdala, I call bullshit.
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louveciennes
12/11/08

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That priest needs a Biblical refresher course. The woman that annointed Jesus' feet wasn't Mary Magdalene. (Also, she wasn't a hooker.)
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wickedkez
12/11/08

@louveciennes: Thank you, I was JUST about to post that. Mary Magdalene was a disciple, not every single adulterous woman in the Bible. Jeeeeeez.
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CherriSpryte
12/11/08

@wickedkez: Yeah, but it took until sometime in the '60's for the Pope to clarify that - if you want to take the Catholic route. They combined what, 3 or 7 different individual women's stories and were saying all of them were Mary Magdalene?

I've also heard the "feet washing = sex" as well. So there's that.
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queenieinmanhattan
12/12/08

@louveciennes: THANK YOU. Yup, the Magdalen myth combined several stories - Mary, sister of Martha, the "woman of the city," Mary of Magdala, Mary of Egypt, and others...
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Liz11685
12/11/08

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This is kinda awesome archaeologically if they can do chemical analysis on the contents of the vials (Im not going to read the article, I just spent a long day on campus doing anthro/archaeology work!). However, the fact that the church is trying to find all this evidence for something that probably never happened instead of looking at the bigger picture of history makes my little anthro heart cry.
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Jack_Burton
12/11/08

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Did Jebus have those little yellow demons chewin' on his feet?

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will_this_dissertation_ever_end?!
12/11/08

@2pint: Nope. Those little fish that are all the rage now in salons.
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I, Zombie Normal
12/11/08

@will_this_dissertation_ever_end?!: He actually only started with one, and then miraculously there were hundreds, enough to give pedicures to everyone for 40 days and nights.
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Lirael
12/11/08

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As someone who studies archaeology I would like to call out bullshit: yes the find of oils and cosmetics is awesome but to automatically call it out in connection to Jesus just reeks of someone trying to get their own special on the History channel.

A lot- not all of it but a lot of- biblical archaeology is a joke. They tend to not carry out real archaeological techniques or methodology. I once had a lady tell me that she did biblical "archaeology". She described to me everything she did and I stopped her and said "You did not do archaeology. You took a two week tour of sites. Its called being a tourist"
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Neopatra
12/11/08

@Lirael: Hear, her. I used to really like the History Channel until every damn thing they did was some form of Christian supremacist propaganda masquerading as history or archaeology. And then anything they have to broadcast that refers to the physical origins of the universe, or evolution has to be shown between midnight and 2AM as if it were porn.
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whats_in_a_name
12/11/08

@Neopatra: It is porn, science porn, which everybody knows is the best kind, but all joking aside that shit is seriously annoying.
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girlarchaeologist
12/12/08

@Lirael:

As an archaeologist, I say word. Even if given the chance, I would not do archaeology in the "Holy Land"*, due to every. damn. thing. that is found being examined from such a skewed angle. They're not looking at what the artifacts can tell them, they're just trying to squash them into a predecided narrative. It's annoying as hell, and leaves things way to open for abuse (James ossuary, anyone). And I'm a little drunk, so I'm going to stop rambling now.

*I would make an exception for Petra, because Petra is the shit.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
12/12/08

@girlarchaeologist: I would do Babylon; as a Religious Studies student (NOT Theology), that place is my Holy Grail of Fucking Awesome. Except for, you know, all the war and stuff.
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Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
12/11/08

In reply to Toiletries Of The Bible
Awww sweet, someone found my homemade bong...um, but that fragrance is not perfume exactly.
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shorty63136
12/11/08

@Ulookinatmyjunk!?!: Old bong water and hemp oil?
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sportz.star
12/11/08

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My perfume evaporates when it sits too long. I think the jar they found is then WAY more marketable than the oils . . . but that's because we Jews don't do the Jesus thing.
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
12/11/08

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"The Red Tent," anyone?
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thesciencegirl
12/11/08

@ceejeemcbeegee: I am in love with that book.
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