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Jenloveshercurves
07/30/09

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I thought that a brand new Senator from Illinois had the chops in 2005 to be the president in 2009. I saw him speak while I was in college and he was my State Senator and then when Kerry lost I literally said, "Well, that's sucks, but Kerry was a weak candidate and Obama is going to be the next president." Everyone laughed, but I was right. Lisa Madigan is way too enmeshed in the not so stellar parts of Illinois politics to ever make it on the big scene.
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TheGuvnah
07/30/09

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no love for my favorite house member, Tammy Baldwin??

The reason McCaskill is considered is because she won MO as a pro-choice democrat. she's got some crossover appeal obviously, and some good committee seats if i'm not mistaken. i'm a fan (even though i was mad at her in the primaries when she endorsed obama)
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SajiliOgygus
07/30/09

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Thanks for this post and the links and added commentary. I can't disagree with most of what you've written about the GOP women I wrote about, for better or worse. But I will say, with a sidewise smirky smile, what did any of us think about Sarah Palin in 2005? ;)

And even worse - their pipeline looks pitiful. Today I wrote about how Jeff Sessions' Young Guns are actually 12 men and just 1 woman.

GOP Continues To Starve Female Leadership Pipeline

Even though I'm a pretty dyed in the wool left of center gal, I still really go nuts seeing the dearth of women on the right side of the aisle. I've met competent, eager conservative women active in the Ohio GOP and the inability for them to be seen and put forward or maybe even just asked to run...argh.
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drinkyrose
07/30/09

@SajiliOgygus: It's not the most popular school of thought here, but I tend to agree that more women running, even as Republicans, even as pro-life, is a net positive for women as a whole.

I wouldn't vote for many of them (or maybe any of them), but their existence forces Republicans to deal with certain virulent perceptions they're known for regarding gender roles.

For example, Sarah Palin was awful, but the GOP can hardly argue that having young children disqualifies a woman from being President, anymore. Had Sarah Palin had the chops of, say a Kay Baily Hutchison, it would have been preferable. But still, I've learned to be content with small miracles.
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stacyinbean
07/30/09

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I love Claire McCaskill, and would vote for her in a heartbeat, but mostly because she looks just like my Grammy. And that probably makes me a bad person.
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Maritsa
07/30/09

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Jodi Rell? Hahaha. She seems to do an OK job for my state, for a Republican, anway. But she is seriously charisma-free.
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MattapanTrolley
07/30/09

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Rachel Maddow in 2016. If Franken can get elected Senator, Maddow can get elected president
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morninggloria
07/30/09

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The best way to determine which lady would be the best presidential candidate would be to have a massive, nation-wide search that ends in a 12 week long reality program wherein America votes on who should be eliminated each week. Hosted by Oprah and that dude from Survivor.
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stacyinbean
07/30/09

@morninggloria: Could we give them '2 AM phone call' challenges?!
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Lymed
07/30/09

@morninggloria: That results in the nomination of Oprah
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NefariousNewt
07/30/09

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Strange... no mention of Paris Hilton?
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NefariousNewt
07/30/09

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Well if a black man from Kenya can be elected President, why doesn't Gov. Granholm have a chance?

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clevernamehere
07/30/09

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I don't think anyone in 1996 predicted W would win the 2000 nomination. I don't think the nominees are really that easy to call, W and Obama didn't really get the presidency based on their political experience, they got it based on being the right candidate at the right time.

I'm a little dour about the prospects for a female president. Its not that Palin and Hillary didn't win, its that I think there was so much more hostility towards them than their male counterparts. Of course, I also wouldn't have thought 3 or 4 years ago we'd have a black president so maybe someone will appear with the right combination.
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drinkyrose
07/30/09

@clevernamehere: I remember an SNL skit during the first Bush presidency. There was a panel of prominent democrats and they were all giving reason as to why they couldn't possibly run for Presdent. (Mario Cuomo: "Mob ties!!") It was all about how Bush was a shoo-in for another term and how no Democrat wanted to be the one to lose. Some time later a "nobody" Governor from Arkansas announced he was going to run.

So it really is impossible to predict these things.
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nora charles
07/30/09

@clevernamehere: I very much agree. When you look at the course of presidential history, it's pretty rare that the eventual winner could be predicted from three years out. Who wins has much more to do with timing than it does with expertise or skill. We have no idea what things will look like in 2011 or 2015, and without that, the candidates are impossible to predict.
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EkaterinaBallerina
07/30/09

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Liddy Dole!?! Hahahahahahaha! Wait seriously? I can't believe anyone thinks she still has any potential. She ruined that when she decided that accusing her opponent of being an atheist was the way to win elections. Which of course, it turns out, isn't.
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linnyt is a walking cliché
07/30/09

@EkaterinaBallerina: she disgusts me. i'd consider voting for a Bush before I'd consider voting for her.
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thegogglesdonothing
07/30/09

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Robin Carnahan could be a possibility in 2016 on the basis of her family name and Midwestern roots, but I think there's a strong chance of a post-Obama revolt against centrism from the left of the Democratic base (not basing this on Obama's ability to govern, per se, revolts against centrism are just kind what the left of the Democratic base does) which might make it hard for a Missouri politician to win a national primary.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
07/30/09

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I really like Olympia Snowe, although I agree with you Megan, she most likely would not win a Republican primary. She's much too moderate.
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magnets
07/30/09

@dianersb was bit by a zombie: I like O. Sno so far as Republicans go - and, like, for Regal-Looking Lady Politician Vogue Photo Shoots - but I don't actually want her as president. Too moderate from our side as well
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
07/30/09

@magnets: Yeah, I definitely like her more as the sane voice of the opposition than as the potential POTUS. Not that we hear much from her, being drowned out by the crazies like she is.
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BearDownCBears
07/30/09

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NO BACHMANN?! My heart breaks.
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magnets
07/30/09

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I have a pretty hard time believing that we're going to see another all-white-male ticket any time soon. SO MANY THEMED PORNOS
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linnyt is a walking cliché
07/30/09

@magnets: i'm interested to see who the repubs put up. bobby jindal and michael steele haven't really panned out. i can't think of any other non-white republicans out there but i'm sure they are somewhere, waiting to be nominated.
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GeorgeFayne
07/30/09

@linnyt is a walking cliché: ALAN KEYES! Oh for the love of God, somebody has to tap Alan Keyes.
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