This movie is a little too Tim Burton for me. It's a lot. I love the Alice stories and I love Tenniel's illustrations. This is a weird, twisted story to begin with. There's no need to Tim Burton it up this much. A little, yeah, ok, we're cool. But hot damn, it's enough already.
It looks like they went for American McGee's alice, the postmodern fairytale reflecting on the cost of adulthood. AKA, the Carebears in Wonderland Alice.
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I learned my lesson after I got all excited to see Burton's remake of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I will not be so disappointed this time around.
I just think that Burton does way better with original material. Except, I did enjoy parts of Sweeney Todd.
Twas brilliant, when the slightly darker tones
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But after watching the new trailer and as far as all whimsy and no substance beyond revisionist and action trope bludgeoning goes ,
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this movie could seriously make me consider revisiting my young druggy days to see it. if only it was shown on the dance floor with a full bar nearby (and The Pet Shop Boys made the soundrack).
@BytheSea: Both. I enjoy the gawker/jezebel breakdowns of trailers and enjoy comments responding. Way more fun than reading the über nerds on imdb dissect whatever I've been working on.
@morninggloria: My inner druggie tells me that this movie would be perfectly complemented with a geltab or two. Or even mushrooms. It's tough to have a bad trip from those. Poop breath, sure, but no face-clawing visions.
@kkatt: I'd want to dress up for that. In a costume, hat and everything. Goddammit I want to do this so bad!!! Who among you is awesome enough to join me in such lunacy?!??
@doit2julia: I'll say. That movie bugs me out cold sober. Know what else was a bad idea? Watching The Cell when I was rolling my face off. I made it through maybe a minute and then the dead girl in the tank started convulsing and I lost my shit and had to go smoke a bong. Many bongs, actually.
@Aesop's Foibles. YES.: This is what I mean when I tell people that drug users are the second most knowledgable chemists to actual pharmacists. got a headache, diarrhea, and a final exam? Ask a druggie.
I'm not sure how to feel about this. I have nothing against reinterpretation of classic stories as long as they are done well, but part of me wishes that he had just done a closer interpretation of the book. I have to admit I wasn't impressed with his reworks of Sleepy Hollow or the Planet of the Apes.
@Sputnik_Sweetheart: Have you read through the looking glass? the trailer leads me to believe this is really that story instead, so maybe it's still a close interpretation of a classic (that is unfortunately routinely over-looked because of its predecessor).
@bite.me: Yes, I have read it, but I just don't remember the Mad Hatter/Hatta going all action hero in it. To be fair, it has been a while since I read it. Perhaps I should reread it this weekend.
That Cheshire cat face is going to become my new desktop wall paper as soon as I get home. It is awesome.
Also, the action sequences could be similar to what happened in Bridge to Terabithia where the trailer people thought the movie looked boring, so they pumped up the action sequences to try to make it look like Narnia.
I read (on Defamer?) that the plot is not the Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass that we all read, it's the return of Alice some 10 years later when the Queen of Hearts has taken over Wonderland and Alice and the Mad Hatter team up to fight her.
Which leads me to ask: Did the SciFi Channel (I refuse to call it SyFy) just rip off Tim Burton's Alice with their weird-ass miniseries?
@willwriteforfood: Yeah, that's what the preview says. It's kinda like what Tinman was (except Tinman was like 150 years later, but the concept still held) for Wizard of Oz. I really liked Tinman so I'm assuming I'll really like this too.
@willwriteforfood: The SciFi/SyFy miniseries that just aired, called simply "Alice," was actually really good. There were some slow parts in the middle, and some of the casting felt obvious, but like with this version, the Hatter was the scene-stealer. And he was SO HOT. Guh. Andrew Lee Potts from the BBC series "Primeval." He and the grown-up Alice had amazing chemistry.
Plus it had Matt Frewer. I have a weird love for him.
@willwriteforfood: Tim Burton is doing Alice 10 years later. What you read it correct. If you watch the preview, you can pick up on that. Hatter even says something to the effect that he would recognize Alice anywhere and is glad she's back.
As for SciFi's version, I watched it and it was good, though not Tinman good. The premise of their 4 hour mini-series is that a completely DIFFERENT Alice travels through the looking glass in attempt to rescue her kidnapped boyfriend. All the characters are different from Carroll's version. Beyond the names and setting, there is nothing to really connect the two.
@willwriteforfood: I assumed that was obvious from the trailer. I mean they do say she has come back and things have gotten bad since she was last there. That is why I am okay with it not sticking with the original story because it isn't the original story. Much better than them making it her first visiting.
I didn't really think he was all that on "Primeval" but he was just /delicious/ in "Alice." It must've been the hat. Or the way he basically devoured her with his eyes every time he looked at her. *swoon*
@mandiandi: Sorry, it's still pretty similar. Evil Queen of Hearts, Mad Hatter hero, heroine named Alice. I think it's a stretch to say nothing connects the two beyond names. The SciFi version just took the original characters and conflated them into others (the Cheshire cat becomes Dinah, for instance).
@Elaken: Oh, I didn't say I thought this version would be bad. I just wish he'd remade the original because I really love the story. I think Tim Burton would have done a great job with the original story, it being so fantastical in the first place.
@willwriteforfood: If you've heard of the American McGee video game from the early 2000s, it sounds a lot like they Both copied the idea. In the game, a blood-thirsty teenage Alice is called upon to save Wonderland from the Queen of Hearts' malevolent influence. And there have been plans for a movie version starring Sarah Michelle Gellar.
@curium: Really? You know, I thought the "Queen of Hearts takes over Wonderland" plot was an odd take but from all the comments and remakes of the Alice story, it seems more obvious than I thought.
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It looks like they went for American McGee's alice, the postmodern fairytale reflecting on the cost of adulthood. AKA, the Carebears in Wonderland Alice.
*swoon*
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and once you realize it, it can't be unseen.
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I just think that Burton does way better with original material. Except, I did enjoy parts of Sweeney Todd.
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But after watching the new trailer and as far as all whimsy and no substance beyond revisionist and action trope bludgeoning goes ,
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Also, the action sequences could be similar to what happened in Bridge to Terabithia where the trailer people thought the movie looked boring, so they pumped up the action sequences to try to make it look like Narnia.
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Which leads me to ask: Did the SciFi Channel (I refuse to call it SyFy) just rip off Tim Burton's Alice with their weird-ass miniseries?
Also, why is Alice dressed in an evening gown?
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Plus it had Matt Frewer. I have a weird love for him.
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As for SciFi's version, I watched it and it was good, though not Tinman good. The premise of their 4 hour mini-series is that a completely DIFFERENT Alice travels through the looking glass in attempt to rescue her kidnapped boyfriend. All the characters are different from Carroll's version. Beyond the names and setting, there is nothing to really connect the two.
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I agree with you on your assessment of the Hatter.
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I didn't really think he was all that on "Primeval" but he was just /delicious/ in "Alice." It must've been the hat. Or the way he basically devoured her with his eyes every time he looked at her. *swoon*
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I give you Hatter's hotness, but Alice's boyfriend wasn't bad either.
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A movie version with Buffy? I'm intrigued!