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ms_priestypants
12/16/08

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It would be nice to have a Jez story on recovery and the modern girl.
It helped me when I was having problems with alcohol to meet other young, interesting, cool women who were also non-drinkers. It was like choosing my peer pressure- just reading the comments above about folks who don't drink helps to reinforce that this a valid life choice, despite what every freaking advertisement on tv seems to be telling me this holiday season:)
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
12/16/08

@ms_priestypants: Oh my effing eff YES!!!! I've been really longing to have a meet-up of Sober Jezzies. I think we'd all have an awesome time once we got over...you know...being awkward as fuck. Maybe we could have it at a petting zoo :D
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hellosunshine
12/16/08

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This is appropriate, seeing as how I'm hungover.* Also, I prefer "drunkedy drunk drunk."

*Hardly eating during the day (on accident) plus boxed wine = how the hell did that happen?
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Kali Mama
12/16/08

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Aesop's Foibles. YES.
12/16/08

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i had quite the drinking problem for a while. I'm definitely on the little side, but at my peak, I was drinking double RBV's all night. My record for one night was..well, scary. Anyway, vodka runs in my dad's side of our fambly and both of his parents drank themselves into their graves. That never stopped my dad from knocking back his Vt's every night-which he taught me how to make when I was like 9. He's since given up the vodka altogether and now he and my mum are total winos. But they don't get 'faced during the week, usually only on friday nights. As for me, I gradually got tired of it all, not to mentioned disgusted with the blackouts every weekend and the accompanying blinding hangovers. Then last year, I was diagnosed with epilepsy and had to start meds immediately. Anti-convulsants do not get along with booze. So, now if me and mr. terrible go out, I'll have a beer or two and that's it. Honestly I don't miss drinking. What I do miss, though, is being able to smoke pot. I did that for years and years and loved it, but now I'm afraid if I do smoke, I'll bug the eff out in fear of having a seizure. So I don't do it, even though it's tempting sometimes.

Anyway, my bff/former drinking partner is still a boozer. She was and still is always able to handle her shit, though. And even though I can't join in the fun with her like I used to, I'd never judge her or anyone else that chooses to drink. I'd only be concerned if any of my friends started getting nuts with it like I used to. Because that only spells one thing, and that's trouble. It really is different for everyone, and like my dad says, if you feel like you have a problem, then you probably do.
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emilyanne
12/16/08

@terribletwenties aka Aesop's Foibles: exactly. Your post sums it up completely. I have similar stories which are too long to go into here but I also come from a long line of drinkers and people who can and in some cases cant handle their drinks and my father always said the same thing. ps the dope probably should be avoided, sadly.
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Aesop's Foibles. YES.
12/16/08

@emilyanne: Sadly is right. But at least now I can be a walking billboard advertizing the benefits of being "High On Life!!" :)
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
12/16/08

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My favorite phrase is that I was _____ to the left of the sober line.

Tipsy=slightly
drunk=waaaaay (please pass the water and the aspirin)
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tscheese
12/16/08

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I also like "getting puzzled" or "turned around."

"My BF and I got really puzzled by hella Stellas."

"I got turned around on a few too many gimlets."

Which...actually, I tried drinking to get drunk a few times when I was 21-22. I succeeded, puked more than I wanted to, and then decided not to do that anymore. What's wrong with just having a few tasty drinks that you can really enjoy, savoring a mild buzz, and then not being pukey hung-the-fuck-over the next morning?
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
12/16/08

@tscheese: Absolutely nothing's wrong with that!

And if it's a choice you can make...more power to you :D
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Kali Mama
12/16/08

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That reminds me. Happy hour Eurobelles!
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Kali Mama
12/16/08

@Kali Mama: Today's choice: A nice Argentine red.
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Ellabella
12/16/08

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"Life's so boring now that I can't stand around judging, feeling superior..." 99% of the addicts I know trade in their addictions for narcotics and booze for addictions to therapy and judgement/superiority. And really how boring is that? So...fucking...boring...
It doesn't matter how many times you tell them how proud you are of them and how much you admire their stregnth and I sincerely am so proud of them and impressed by them, but sometimes they need to just get over themselves and shut the fuck up...
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BeAgrestic
12/16/08

@Ellabella: Um, that was way harsh, Tai. I know plenty of people in recovery that aren't judgy, sorry the people you know are.
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gherkinfiend
12/16/08

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@scullymurphy: I must remember that! I hate ruining a day of a holiday being too ill to leave the hotel...

If you don't like 'muntered' you could try 'langered'!
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hollygirl
12/16/08

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"Legless" is my favorite. Also, in my homemtown of boston MA you say " Shattid", local pronunciation of "shattered."
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
12/16/08

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Hm, that's why any self-respecting woman gets shitfaced with her equally shitfaceable (?) friends who will laugh with her the next day, not AT her.
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Lizawithazee
12/16/08

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Forgive me for stating the obvious-- but isn't the reason she doesn't see her friends getting wasted anymore is because she's an old now and the drunks have done one (or more) of the following: quit drinking, died from being an alcoholic, or are holed up drinking themselves to death alone rather than at parties, given the natural progression of alcoholism?

One day you're the one being made fun of at parties. The next you're the one who never goes (or gets invited) to parties anymore.

Alcoholism isn't clever.
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BeAgrestic
12/16/08

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Does anyone say "three sheets to the wind" anymore? I loved to say that when I was still drinking.
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Jack_Burton
12/16/08

@BeAgrestic: An old fave of mine, partially because I've grown up loving to sail, and partially because of the Pogues.
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FourInchHeels
12/17/08

@BeAgrestic: I most certainly do! I grew up in a Navy family with a father who loves all those naval references .. and also because I really enjoy the image. Ever seen a ship three sheets to the wind? It's quite a picture!
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tscheese
12/16/08

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Also, for those who don't drink but have had bad experiences with drinkers making snarky/weird/uncomfortable comments: please know I'm one of the drinkers who doesn't do this.

If I'm out at a bar with others who are desperate to spend $80 getting absolutely fucktastic, sometimes I'll stop after a couple of beers and nurse water for the rest of the night. Sure, I'd LIKE to drink more--it's fun!--but it's also WAY EXPENSIVE. So to have people get in your face all "LOLOLOL WAI ARNT U DRANKIN" is really uncomfortable.
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PilgrimSoul
12/16/08

@tscheese: also, if you drink too much you stop being able to taste the fried and cheese-laden wonder that is bar food.

I command you to show up at the next meetup.
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mutualcraze
12/16/08

@tscheese: Drinking can get expensive really fast, so you really have to know where to go. There are plenty of places to go for cheap in New York though, you just have to look a little harder.

Also @everyone ... I'm pretty sure one of my close friends is an alocolic. I think he knows, but he doesn't do anything about it, and I'm kind of worried because he already has health problems.
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emilyanne
12/16/08

@tscheese: exactly although trust me they're not as bad as cokeheads when you've given up ever taking drugs again. Those people really don't take no for an answer and then they talk crap in your ear all night away.
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rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny
12/16/08

@tscheese: Awww... I would only suspect you of being the most awesomest drunk friend ever!
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
12/16/08

@tscheese: The other thing that makes it crazy uncomfortable is that I WISH I could still be drinking sometimes. But me, I drink = long painful road to dead & degenerateville. So if someone gets in my face and asks why I'm not drinking when I'm having a weak moment...bad shit could happen.

@mutualcraze: (left you a private message on your profile)
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emilyanne
12/16/08

@mutualcraze: my ex boyfriend was an alcoholic, a proper shakes if he doesn't drink whisky the moment he wakes up, incoherent mess of a man by the end of our relationship (he was 12 years older than me and functioning when we first got together). PM if you want any advice, help, etc.
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hellosunshine
12/16/08

@tscheese: WORD. Sometimes I take it too far, sometimes I don't. As I'm increasingly poorer, it's been more of the latter when I've been out these days.
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morninggloria
12/16/08

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I like to say, I got really _________ at my office Christmas party!

Fill in with any of the following:
plowed
saturated
destroyed
messy
interesting
crunkalicious
pukington
silly
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scullymurphy
12/16/08

@morninggloria:

Housed

Pissed

my Scottish husband is suggesting 'muntered' but I don't know what that means so I'm wary of just putting it out there.
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WaltzingMatilda
12/16/08

@morninggloria: Ah yes, "saturated" is one of my faves. But I only started using it when I upgraded from shitbeer to martinis. I feel like it something that "ladies who lunch" would say after drinking sidecars. I aspire to be that lady.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
12/16/08

@morninggloria:
happy
swirly
vivacious
drunkity drunkdrunkdrunk
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tish
12/16/08

@scullymurphy: I have been known to use muntered. As I understand it, a 'munter' is an ugly person - hence muntered.

I also like 'tw*tted' and 'steaming'. My Scottish friend says 'I was pure steamin'!' and I like that a lot.

Also in use: wankered; off my tits/face; messy. ie. I was a bit f*cking messy last night.
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gherkinfiend
12/16/08

@tish: Speaking of alcohol, we missed you at the last London meet up...
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tish
12/16/08

@gherkinfiend: I know! I am sorry. Would you believe that I was actually too drunk to come? It's true! I had met up with some friends in the afternoon - in London, hoping I would be able to head over to the Jez event later on - but I hadn't seen them for ages and they were Bad Influences and four buckets of wine on an empty stomach later, I was hooning about the Picadilly Line staring at all the pretty pretty lights. I wasn't in the best of states to make a good first impression and I had that 'NEED BED NOW' urge going on so I staggered home. Is lame I know.

Totally there the next time though. With bells on!
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gherkinfiend
12/16/08

@tish: That's a perfect reason in this thread...

Actually we were all quite well behaved, just slightly giddy. But look forward to seeing you at the next one!
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