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The Queen of No
03/13/09

In reply to Sober House: It's Hard To Tell When Andy Dick Is Joking
I met Andy once. My friend used to be a part of his "young man" entourage. He was a strange fellow, but seemed nice.
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TriedandTrue
03/13/09

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I did not see this episode but I did see the one before it where Andy was apologizing to his former assistant and Mo from Mad TV. That episode was really difficult to watch because he had to ask THEM what he should be apologizing for since most times, he was so messed up he didn't remember what he had done the night before. That really struck me.
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CissyPants
03/13/09

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His son is cute. I like the curly hair.
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♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
03/13/09

@CissyPants: yea that's what I kept thinking - what a cutie pie - and I'm a sucker for hobbit hair, as I have a hilariously curly mane myself.
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gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy
03/13/09

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I've had one person make amends. The woman my alcoholic ex-fiance (who I left after he threw me down a flight of stairs) was cheating on me with, after she finally got sober. The same woman I had to go rescue from him during one of his rages (she called me to help her; bizarre, I know, but I was the only sober person she knew and trusted), and we are friends now, to some extent.

She recently got sober again after falling off the wagon (wierd saying) and I was there to congratulate her. Her apology was sincere and I always knew it; therefore, I accepted it. This apology from Andy Dick - how much of it was for TV and how many times has he had to apologize over all the years of drug and alcohol abuse?

sorry for all the ( )'s
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EKane
03/13/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: Wowzers.
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
03/13/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: This is the problem. The fact that he's only apologizing because it's time for that segment on Sober House is why I don't think this show is helpful to anyone ever at all.
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Hana Maru
03/13/09

@Mkp-hearts-NYC: It was mentioned in one of the interviews on the vh1 blog that Andy Dick had just decided to do the mass apology step early, and out of order. Dr. Drew sounded cynical about it, he said that Andy seems to get off on doing stunts and embarrassing himself.
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Hana Maru
03/13/09

@HanaMaru: also, the reason apologies are supposed to be a late step is because at an earlier point, the tendency is for the addict to make it about them, making themselves feel better intead of true and selfless contrition.
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marshmallory
03/13/09

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His son does NOT look like he's feeling it, sarcasm or no. Sorry, Andy, I doubt a maybe-joking verbal apology for one time you didn't come back is going to cut it.

P.S. I love curly hair on teh boyz.
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steampoweredboy
03/13/09

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Y'know, "Newsradio" was so funny, just a weird little show and Andy Dick was hysterical on it.

Remembering that show from when I was a kid and seeing that video? It's like he's become a pod person.
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mllej
03/13/09

@steampoweredboy: Yep, that was a great show, but (for me) knowing what happened to Andy Dick and especially Phil Hartman, it bums me out a little too much to watch.
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ellaesther
03/13/09

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I have had amends made to me (and in one case, am still waiting for some! But then, the recovery has to actually begin first, doesn't it...?). That shit is hard, and it is hard to accept. It is hard, hard, hard, and I can only imagine that it's even harder coming from someone who has fucked up so often, over so many years. I mean, this is not the first time that Andy Dick has been in some kind of rehab.... God. Substance abuse. What a fuck load of fuckery, for everyone.

This is why I cannot laugh at Amy Winehouse, or at "Fat Elvis," or at Courtney Love, or at Joaquin Phoenix (I'm on Team Not Faking It), etc, etc, ad nauseum. That shit kills, and it kills more than just the person with the addiction.
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
03/13/09

@ellaesther: Word. There's a reason that amends don't come under step 1! Back in the day, it was common to go through all 12 steps in a day, or a week, and even now in some places they try to zip them through in a month.... but it takes a lot longer to be ready for a true amends.
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ellaesther
03/13/09

@Mkp-hearts-NYC: (In a side note: Because our avatars are so similar, I will literally sometimes see your comments and think: But, did I comment...? How...? And then go, OHHHH).

You're so right. The addict really has to give up on the effort to keep trying to manage that shit in order to truly make amends. Otherwise, it can look like an apology, and it may sound like an apology to the addict's ears, but it'll just be spin, and back you go to that darn first step.
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EKane
03/13/09

@Mkp-hearts-NYC: @ellaesther: So so true... Control is a MAJOR issue in most aspects of recovery and it sucks.
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
03/13/09

@ellaesther: Haha...it's like having an evil twin commenter :D
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I_b_meh
03/13/09

@ellaesther: It does kill, alcoholism killed my brother in law last year and he wasn't even 50. Left a beautiful wife and 3 kids. He always said bottom for him was dead, obvs he meant it. Heart breaking tragedy for everyone it touches.
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ellaesther
03/13/09

@I_b_hatin: Oh honey, I am so, so sorry. There is someone very close to me for whom I have so much fear. Death is the bottom for so many. In my own childhood, salvation came, but I have real fear for this person I love that it will not come. That it will not be invited in.
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
03/13/09

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Sarcasm can be hard to dismantle if it's been your defense mechanism (and in Andy's case, way of making a living) for a long long time. If he stays sober eventually I bet he'll get to a place where he can make a meaningful apology...but the willingness to try at all was a good step.
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Anchee
03/13/09

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Andy Dick says he remembers this ONE time when he left and said he'd be right back. I would bet son is thinking "Yeah, I don't remember that time you're talking about - but I remember the 50 other ones just like it, when I was 8 and 9 and 10 and 11..."

I've been on the receiving end of the making amends and it startling sometimes what the apology looks like. What sticks out to the addict that is in need of an apology. And a lot of the time? Entirely misses the point. Hard stuff, recovery.
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EKane
03/13/09

@Anchee: Exxxactly. Apologies are great for accidently stepping on toes in a movie theater but they are a completely different thing when dealing with an addict in recovery. I feel for Andy's son.
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AmorFati
03/13/09

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I agree with Dr. Drew, the apology felt empty. That doesn't mean it wasn't authentic. It look like he has a hard time expressing himself verbally. And realistically how do you apologize for being an absent parent for 20 years?
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rosasparks
03/13/09

@AmorFati: That is my thought. I have caught this show, randomly.

It seems genuine that he's trying to apologize, to a lot of the people in his life, but how do you REALLY, authentically apologize for some of this? I mean, you say I'm sorry, but sheesh.

I know my family members have apologized for their misdeeds from alcoholic behavior, but it just takes time to accept and forgive.
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LaComtesse
03/13/09

@AmorFati: @rosasparks is entertained by bobby jindal: The only real apology is doing better towards the person you've wronged.
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angryblackgurl
03/13/09

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This show was great...Dr. Drew is HOT(I digress sorry)!! I felt for the entire team on this show, sad to say I think that many are headed right back on the same paths..the only advice I can give is "One Day at a Time"!!

By the way Andy was serious!!
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EKane
03/13/09

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I would bet money child of Andy Dick has pushed all the hurtful memories deep into the back of his mind and cannot recall this time in question because is he numb to his fathers behavior.
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rednrowdy
03/13/09

@EKane: he had said once he got into the house that the other housemates' discussions about their parents addictions remind him of what his own son thinks of him as a father. talk about a sobering thought.

if this show proves anything, it's that addicts who are using act like raging assholes, and it's as evident as the pope is catholic.
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Johnny_Rocket
03/13/09

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Every time I see Andy Dick all I can think of is Daphne Aguilera.
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dirtybee
03/13/09

@Johnny_Rocket: Yes, and "I just wanna get drunk and screw!"
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marshmallory
03/13/09

@Johnny_Rocket: THERE IS GOING TO BE A DAPHNE AGUILERA MOVIE.

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margareita metermaid
03/13/09

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That was the problem I had watching an episode from this season. My experience with Andy Dick is from the Ben Stiller show where everything they said was deadpan and in jest, so that episode where everyone from sober house was looking for seth or whatever his name is kinda had me giggling when andy d. was trying to be all serious. Remember him drawing on Seth's bunk bed with a sharpie, little hearts and stars and shit? hee hee! totally seemed like a skit.
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athenasadidas
03/13/09

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I'm unclear, did the kid even remember this incident? Also how do you make up for missing your kid's childhood?- I would say a verbal apology is the tip of the iceberg.
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