I dislike Megan because while I agree she is in on the game, I don't think its the one you think it is. Hollywood has the bad girl check list and Megan checks them all of on a repeated basis, I'll hook up with girls but I prefer guys, I burp and fart and eat like a pig, I'm one of the guys, girls all hate me for (insert many reasons here), acting ditzy and making no sense (insert I was a butch dyke one comment here). And while maybe its an act because she then turns around and proclaims that while she markets herself or allows herself to be marketed as just a body she proclaims to be insecure while continuing with sexyface and as many overdone Maxim and Rolling Stone type covers as she can. I think she is smart enough to notice that her career can not continue if she alienates woman and only plays up to the male sex kitten fantasy and her career will be limited. I don't accept that she is young and dumb, I'm only a year older and I can not stop myself from rolling my eyes when I read some of what she says (example: she has a fear of heights so she says she listens to Brittney Spears while she flies because she knows it is not her destiny to die listening to her so she throws on her headphones and relaxes)....someone explain how that is out of context. I think depending on who she is playing up to this month, men, feminists, geeks, she says what she needs to and then wears another face to the next interview. I wouldn't doubt she is smart but that's why I think its all a ploy. Amazing she didn't have many feminist comments until she was doing what to some could be a feminist movie, meanwhile for Transformers she was all bout geek love and kink. I do however hope she grows in acting because the overdrawn Baywatch with robots that was Transformers with her slow run was the biggest bore fest I've ever had to sit through
As I was saying, I really like Megan Fox. Last night, after reading this post, I was googling images of her. I noticed that she looks completely different now than she did just a couple of years ago. She has had major plastic surgery. I mean MAJOR. She's definitely had a nose job, boob job, lip injections, and I even suspect she had her jawline shaved down because her face has a more sculpted appearance now.
I think it's really sad and I'm disappointed. As cool of a woman as she seems to be (assertive, independent, tough) she still felt the need to transform herself into every man's walking fantasy. She was a pretty woman before all the surgery. I would like to throttle the person who instructed her to get all that work done on herself. She's only 23! Jesus.
@Cherry Blossom Girl: Supposedly this is an image of her before and I think she looks beautiful. And I too think it's sad that someone who talks about a powerful vagina that scares men, she is only that way due to making herself into their fantasy first.
@Nuckin Futz for you: No image showed up on your post. Here is a link to a picture that is not necessarily safe for work (it's a bikini/underwear pic):
She's already posing in FHM and Maxim at this point and this face is a completely different face. I also like her old face better and I think it's sad that she felt like she had to change it in order to become more successful and "fit" some image. She was obviously considered attractive before!
How interesting, now that we like her we manage to find a picture of her not making sexyface...
It's about time. All the girl-hate on Megan Fox was starting to support the 'feminists-are-ugly-angry-lesbians'......... meme. Women who do fit the Maxim magazine archetype but still want to be recognized for more than their looks may be fighting the hardest battle of us all. As many women who turned from wallflower to bombshell overnight can attest, it's a bitch to wake up and realize that now that you fit the "ideal" mold you are even less likely to be taken seriously.
Many of us tell ourselves that we would have more value to society if we were thinner or prettier - hell, the entire beauty/fashion industry is built on this premise. But when you get to where Megan Fox is you find out what an utter lie that is and get a really up-close and personal look at how little the Patriarchy values women no matter what they look like.
If we, as "feminists", fail to see past her exterior too we have truly failed.
@MizJenkins: Oh, it wasn't easy. She makes sexyface very often. And I am still going to call people out on sexyface, whether I like them or not. It must be stopped! :)
So no one is going to mention Fox trashing her director, Michael Bay, even though he made her a star? That's why I don't like her. She shit on the people who gave her the opportunity to be the girl of the moment.
She has no gratitude, and even less class. You may not like your boss, bus you don't make that known to the general public. She's lucky he forgave her.
Hopefully she changes that aspect of her "branding" because it's unbecoming.
@NicodemusHecuba: So even if I agree with you on general principle I have to wonder why we villify women for this so much more than men...
This plays out in everyday workplaces too, men can be absolute dicks to everyone around them, including their bosses and still make it to the top...in fact, it often earns them fear, respect and admiration.
But when women do the same we cry, "Oh for shame!" and chide them for their lack of morals and "unbecoming" behavior? FUCK THAT NOISE. She thought her boss was a dick and she called him out on it. So what if he "made her a star"? That's no reason for her to shut-up and be grateful when she received poor treatment. Class and tact may be virtues, but if more women were able to stand up for themselves in the workplace without worrying about being virtuous or polite maybe we would start to get better treatment.
i'm not going to play the semantics/manners game with this one: a lot of girls dislike Megan simply because she's just so gorgeous. They'll come down on her for having had plastic surgery, as if Angelina, Marylin, and Natalie didn't also have their noses done.
@Rocket Queen: The tabloid's accusations of plastic surgery always amuse me. Their before pictures of any celebrity are often MANY years old. Sometimes with people like Britney Spears they are comparing a childhood or teen Brit to her adult self then - OMG SHE LOOKS DIFFERENT!!! Obviously the only explanation is plastic surgery. People are just stupid.
@goldenmonkey: No, I don't think people are just stupid. I have the opposite amusement... why people want to believe these stars HAVEN'T had plastic surgery so badly when it's a well-acknowledged fact in literature about Hollywood(Not just tabloids) that there is a great deal of pressure from studios, agents, and directors for especially actresses to become 'perfect'.
I was recently watching Hackers. Angelina Jolie had a noticeably different nose when she was younger; it is much thinner now. Noses get BIGGER as you get older, not smaller, thinner, and, um, bumpless. Cameron Diaz also.
What disturbs me more is using Plastic surgery as some sort of value judgement, like only vain, self-involved people with no respect for aging would do it. (I'm not saying that's where you're going, but I do think that's a common thread.)
They're *actors*. Their life is their looks, and as Megan Fox herself acknowledges, she's in trouble if she doesn't base her career on more. In that environment, if someone is telling you better continue to look perfect as you look older or you're not going to get jobs, who are these women to resist?
@Rocket Queen: Angelina has definitely had her nose done, and possibly had cheek implants as well. I don't judge people for it (fix what bugs you and get on with your life, you know?), but a lot of people are selectively judgmental about it. Marylin's nose job was okay because she's a ~legend, but somehow Megan's isn't.
@voteforme: Well, there's a difference between being judgmental about someone's decision to get plastic surgery, and being saddened by their decision and the bigger implications it has about society in general and what people feel they HAVE to do. There are definitely examples of both things that happen on all these threads but I wouldn't necessarily rush to judge (ha!) the people who have pointed out the plastic surgery.
Anyone who would say Marilyn's nose job is ok but Angelina/Megan Fox/Whoever is not ok needs to stfu tho, yeah.
She's beautifulllllllllllllll. Almost like a work of art.
But she doesn't seem genuine to me. At all. I don't know why. I just never buy into anything she says. Like Lady Gaga. I like her, but she just seems to be in it to be thought of as a "marilyn monroe" of our generation.
When clearly, the Marilyn Monroe of our generation is La Lohan. :/
@Ms. Audrey Horne: Surgery only goes so far though. I mean, Tori Spelling and a lot of other starlets had as much or more surgery than Megan Fox and don't look like her, you know?
Besides, I find the insistence on "natural beauty" when we all shave, wax, pluck, paint our faces and dye our hair to be a bit silly.
It looks like Fox's fame and sex appeal were not enough to sell "Jennifer," the movie isn't a box office hit this weekend. Hopefully, DC won't end up being a one-hit wonder.
@Cam/ron: It's also an R rated horror/comedy, which typically doesn't do tremendously at the box office. Slither had similar numbers and went on to be a hit on DVD. I don't think the expectations for the box office on this could be that high, given when it was released, and what genre it's in.
And as the other commenter noted, she's already not a one hit wonder. She has United States of Tara which did really well for Showtime and has a second season underway.
The reality is, I don't think DC is looking to repeat herself. If she did another straight teen comedy it might do well, or it might not. I don't really expect her to do that every time. And despite box office, Jennifer's Body is an excellent horror film.
I still dislike her because of her Wonder Woman comments. Her opinion of my favorite superhero seems to be based solely on what some drunk guy at a party once told her the '70s show and cartoon were about, not the actual current comic character.
@Scout: How have you been able to pass judgment on her acting ability? Surely, you can't be using Transformers as a yardstick? If that were the case, I'd have written Viggo Mortensen off after The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III and George Clooney after Return Of The Killer Tomatoes.
Megan was pretty awful when she was on that sitcom with Kelly Rippa....
There are many young women whose introduction into Hollywood/acting have resulted in some amazing first time (and 2nd & 3rd) performances (movies, not TV per se)
So, I stand by my comment that she is a horrible actress who doesn't know her limitations. I will retract my statement should this ever change in the future.
But it won't make her acting in both Transformers any less terrible.
Viggo is not a terrific actor(though I do not apply this to LOTR) nor is Clooney who like Jolie, Pitt, Aniston et al, is best when "performing" an extension of his persona.
Methinks you are confusing acting with "just being me on a big screen and whilst wearing a costume"
@Diziet_Sma: I just laughed out loud. Those are great examples. She's really early on in her career and I'm just not willing to judge it all based on the very small amount of stuff she's been in. And yeah...most actors have some serious duds in their closet, especially when they're young, and especially depending on the director. If I didn't know them from other stuff I'd think Shia and Jon Turturro were execrable actors based on TF.
@Scout: Actually, it has a lot to do with direction. All the people you listed are good actors when directed well, less so when not. I'd say the only one who's truly consistent is Pitt, though he has some really off performances in his youth, too. And I actually think Mortennson is quite good in a variety of roles...he's nothing like Aragorn in Eastern Promises, or A History of Violence.
She's been in two TF movies and a sitcom. I'm not saying she'll ever be a great actress, but she's honestly no worse than anyone else in TF. Those are not acting movies, they're action.
I get that you don't like her, and that's fine. But I think you're letting a personal preference and her limited film exposure define things too much. I actually thought she did quite well in Jennifer's Body, which is quite different than TF.
I think its hilarious that so many people are complaining about her psychoslut facade being an act. OF COURSE IT'S AN ACT!!! She's an actress. It's what she does.
Always assume, no matter what the situation, that the actor on tv, or in the magazine, is lying to you.
Example; anytime Katherine Heigle comes across as nice in an interview, she is acting. The same goes for Selma Hayak. Angelina Jolie played the psychoslut card for YEARS before she settled into serious actress/humanitarian mode. Whether they're on screen, or offscreen, unless you're hanging out with them on the regular, or are neighbours, you have no idea what an actor is really like. None.
So think about it. If Megan Fox skipped the whole sex kitten act and pretended to be a super christian, or a mathematician, would you like her more or less? Either way, it would have no bearing on the kind of person she is, because it wouldn't be an accurate representation of her.
Sorry for the rant. I blame allergy medication for any parts that didn't make sense.
@footnotegirl: I like Wonder Woman too, but I'm not going to hold that against her. Characters, like stories, are personal preferences. No matter how much I may love them other people won't for equally valid reasons. I don't judge every person who doesn't like LOTR, or who doesn't get why The Sandman is such a good series, either. :}
I am one of the very few that doesn't base an opinion about an actor/actress by their personal lives or sound bites from interviews. I use movies to escape into a world of mystery, romance, science fiction, comedy or drama.
Watching Megan in Transformers, I knew exactly what purpose she served and considering the popcorn entertainment I was watching, she nailed it perfectly. And truthfully, I still don't know what the whole plot was about and which robot was who. But I did pay attention when she was onscreen and her chemistry with Shia was undeniable.
It's like when I watch a film with Tom Cruise. I can set aside the Scientology, the irrational medical advice, the couch-jumping and become absorbed in the film because, let's face it, the guy can act.
I think if everyone formed opinions about celebrities based on the stupid things that come out of their mouth, then noone would watch films or television, listen to music or read a book.
Well, it's about time! It always makes me laugh when people pile on a person they don't even know - a celeb - purely on the 'evidence' of media quotes. When it's a successful, attractive, young woman, I'm always doubly suspicious: the patriarchy works in mysterious ways, you know.
@Diziet_Sma: Yeah, I'm with you. She's young, she's gotten very successful very fast, and she's outspoken and interesting. I just don't have a problem with her, even if she's phrased things in a way I don't agree with. Especially considering she gets attention for what she actually says, not the breakdown or life drama she's having. I find that interesting.
"If nothing else, she'll certainly give us something to talk about for the next few years."
That's certainly giving her a lot of credit... she's yet to be in a movie that wasn't widely mocked by critics and the general public... if she sticks around in movies it probably won't be in any serious or credible roles and I don't think she's interesting enough as a person to warrant years of discussion. She's just the starlet of the minute. No more, no less. And I think people will get bored of her soon enough. I am, already.
@TurtleSpeak: Some of the topics Jez posts about bore me rigid - reality TV shows, for eg; But you know what? I never even read those posts, let alone comment on them. Methinks you do protest too much.
09/21/09
I dislike Megan because while I agree she is in on the game, I don't think its the one you think it is. Hollywood has the bad girl check list and Megan checks them all of on a repeated basis, I'll hook up with girls but I prefer guys, I burp and fart and eat like a pig, I'm one of the guys, girls all hate me for (insert many reasons here), acting ditzy and making no sense (insert I was a butch dyke one comment here). And while maybe its an act because she then turns around and proclaims that while she markets herself or allows herself to be marketed as just a body she proclaims to be insecure while continuing with sexyface and as many overdone Maxim and Rolling Stone type covers as she can. I think she is smart enough to notice that her career can not continue if she alienates woman and only plays up to the male sex kitten fantasy and her career will be limited. I don't accept that she is young and dumb, I'm only a year older and I can not stop myself from rolling my eyes when I read some of what she says (example: she has a fear of heights so she says she listens to Brittney Spears while she flies because she knows it is not her destiny to die listening to her so she throws on her headphones and relaxes)....someone explain how that is out of context. I think depending on who she is playing up to this month, men, feminists, geeks, she says what she needs to and then wears another face to the next interview. I wouldn't doubt she is smart but that's why I think its all a ploy. Amazing she didn't have many feminist comments until she was doing what to some could be a feminist movie, meanwhile for Transformers she was all bout geek love and kink. I do however hope she grows in acting because the overdrawn Baywatch with robots that was Transformers with her slow run was the biggest bore fest I've ever had to sit through
09/21/09
I think it's really sad and I'm disappointed. As cool of a woman as she seems to be (assertive, independent, tough) she still felt the need to transform herself into every man's walking fantasy. She was a pretty woman before all the surgery. I would like to throttle the person who instructed her to get all that work done on herself. She's only 23! Jesus.
09/21/09
09/21/09
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She's already posing in FHM and Maxim at this point and this face is a completely different face. I also like her old face better and I think it's sad that she felt like she had to change it in order to become more successful and "fit" some image. She was obviously considered attractive before!
09/21/09
It's about time. All the girl-hate on Megan Fox was starting to support the 'feminists-are-ugly-angry-lesbians'......... meme. Women who do fit the Maxim magazine archetype but still want to be recognized for more than their looks may be fighting the hardest battle of us all. As many women who turned from wallflower to bombshell overnight can attest, it's a bitch to wake up and realize that now that you fit the "ideal" mold you are even less likely to be taken seriously.
Many of us tell ourselves that we would have more value to society if we were thinner or prettier - hell, the entire beauty/fashion industry is built on this premise. But when you get to where Megan Fox is you find out what an utter lie that is and get a really up-close and personal look at how little the Patriarchy values women no matter what they look like.
If we, as "feminists", fail to see past her exterior too we have truly failed.
09/21/09
09/20/09
She has no gratitude, and even less class. You may not like your boss, bus you don't make that known to the general public. She's lucky he forgave her.
Hopefully she changes that aspect of her "branding" because it's unbecoming.
09/21/09
This plays out in everyday workplaces too, men can be absolute dicks to everyone around them, including their bosses and still make it to the top...in fact, it often earns them fear, respect and admiration.
But when women do the same we cry, "Oh for shame!" and chide them for their lack of morals and "unbecoming" behavior? FUCK THAT NOISE. She thought her boss was a dick and she called him out on it. So what if he "made her a star"? That's no reason for her to shut-up and be grateful when she received poor treatment. Class and tact may be virtues, but if more women were able to stand up for themselves in the workplace without worrying about being virtuous or polite maybe we would start to get better treatment.
09/19/09
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09/20/09
I was recently watching Hackers. Angelina Jolie had a noticeably different nose when she was younger; it is much thinner now. Noses get BIGGER as you get older, not smaller, thinner, and, um, bumpless. Cameron Diaz also.
What disturbs me more is using Plastic surgery as some sort of value judgement, like only vain, self-involved people with no respect for aging would do it. (I'm not saying that's where you're going, but I do think that's a common thread.)
They're *actors*. Their life is their looks, and as Megan Fox herself acknowledges, she's in trouble if she doesn't base her career on more. In that environment, if someone is telling you better continue to look perfect as you look older or you're not going to get jobs, who are these women to resist?
And I'd say a majority DON'T resist.
09/20/09
09/21/09
Anyone who would say Marilyn's nose job is ok but Angelina/Megan Fox/Whoever is not ok needs to stfu tho, yeah.
09/19/09
Yeah, good luck, Hortense. Join the club.
09/19/09
But she doesn't seem genuine to me. At all. I don't know why. I just never buy into anything she says. Like Lady Gaga. I like her, but she just seems to be in it to be thought of as a "marilyn monroe" of our generation.
When clearly, the Marilyn Monroe of our generation is La Lohan. :/
09/19/09
09/21/09
Besides, I find the insistence on "natural beauty" when we all shave, wax, pluck, paint our faces and dye our hair to be a bit silly.
09/21/09
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09/19/09
And as the other commenter noted, she's already not a one hit wonder. She has United States of Tara which did really well for Showtime and has a second season underway.
The reality is, I don't think DC is looking to repeat herself. If she did another straight teen comedy it might do well, or it might not. I don't really expect her to do that every time. And despite box office, Jennifer's Body is an excellent horror film.
09/19/09
09/19/09
gah! and bah!
09/19/09
....I care that she's a horrible actress making millions for her supposed "work".
it is easy for me to dismiss her but I don't hate her. Like Hortense said: "I don't know her"
09/19/09
09/19/09
Megan was pretty awful when she was on that sitcom with Kelly Rippa....
There are many young women whose introduction into Hollywood/acting have resulted in some amazing first time (and 2nd & 3rd) performances (movies, not TV per se)
So, I stand by my comment that she is a horrible actress who doesn't know her limitations. I will retract my statement should this ever change in the future.
But it won't make her acting in both Transformers any less terrible.
Viggo is not a terrific actor(though I do not apply this to LOTR) nor is Clooney who like Jolie, Pitt, Aniston et al, is best when "performing" an extension of his persona.
Methinks you are confusing acting with "just being me on a big screen and whilst wearing a costume"
09/19/09
09/19/09
She's been in two TF movies and a sitcom. I'm not saying she'll ever be a great actress, but she's honestly no worse than anyone else in TF. Those are not acting movies, they're action.
I get that you don't like her, and that's fine. But I think you're letting a personal preference and her limited film exposure define things too much. I actually thought she did quite well in Jennifer's Body, which is quite different than TF.
09/19/09
Always assume, no matter what the situation, that the actor on tv, or in the magazine, is lying to you.
Example; anytime Katherine Heigle comes across as nice in an interview, she is acting. The same goes for Selma Hayak. Angelina Jolie played the psychoslut card for YEARS before she settled into serious actress/humanitarian mode. Whether they're on screen, or offscreen, unless you're hanging out with them on the regular, or are neighbours, you have no idea what an actor is really like. None.
So think about it. If Megan Fox skipped the whole sex kitten act and pretended to be a super christian, or a mathematician, would you like her more or less? Either way, it would have no bearing on the kind of person she is, because it wouldn't be an accurate representation of her.
Sorry for the rant. I blame allergy medication for any parts that didn't make sense.
09/19/09
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09/19/09
Watching Megan in Transformers, I knew exactly what purpose she served and considering the popcorn entertainment I was watching, she nailed it perfectly. And truthfully, I still don't know what the whole plot was about and which robot was who. But I did pay attention when she was onscreen and her chemistry with Shia was undeniable.
It's like when I watch a film with Tom Cruise. I can set aside the Scientology, the irrational medical advice, the couch-jumping and become absorbed in the film because, let's face it, the guy can act.
I think if everyone formed opinions about celebrities based on the stupid things that come out of their mouth, then noone would watch films or television, listen to music or read a book.
09/19/09
Well said, H.
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09/19/09
That's certainly giving her a lot of credit... she's yet to be in a movie that wasn't widely mocked by critics and the general public... if she sticks around in movies it probably won't be in any serious or credible roles and I don't think she's interesting enough as a person to warrant years of discussion. She's just the starlet of the minute. No more, no less. And I think people will get bored of her soon enough. I am, already.
09/19/09