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    Image of pesematology pesematology
    12/04/09

    In reply to War Over Abortion In Congress Continues Apace
    OK this is a serious issue and all, but the headline implying that abortions are happening IN CONGRESS is kinda funny.
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    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    From the Treaty of Tripoli.
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    Image of AndPreciousLittleofThat AndPreciousLittleofThat
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    Why campaign FOR adoption and proper prenatal care when you can campaign AGAINST abortion?

    Why favor premarriage counseling for everyone, when it's easier to be against marriage for homosexuals?

    Why have a serious conversation about corporate power and job losses when it's easier to bitch about brown people?

    In short, any coward can say NO. It takes courage to say YES.
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    I must be missing something here, because I see the assertion in the body of the post and in the comments - how did Operation Rescue contribute to the George Tiller murder? I thought it was a lone nut.
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    12/04/09

    @Perhaps Not: [www.mcclatchydc.com]

    Also they protested outside of his office every day and called him a mass murderer (even in response to his death), acting as a freaking homing signal for unstable people with violent tendencies, access to weapons, and God Complexes.
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    Image of SunburnedCounsel SunburnedCounsel
    12/04/09

    @Perhaps Not: short answer: Using eliminationist language against a person every day for twenty years may, unsurprisingly, encourage someone to eliminate them.
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    Image of Ginmar Rienne Ginmar Rienne
    12/04/09

    @Perhaps Not: His murderer consulted with Operation Rescue's high-ranking members, included a convicted abortion-clinic bomber. Nor was this his first attempt; he tried to break into the clinic the weekend before Tiller's murder.
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    Image of apteryxawl apteryxawl
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    People like Dr. Carhart, who quietly live out their convictions no matter what they are faced with, are my heroes.
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    Image of Wit is periodically disensouled Wit is periodically disensouled
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    Operation Rescue: You know how you could have prevented 'LeRoy Carhart From Taking Tiller's Place As The Nation's #1 Late-Term Abortionist'? Not contributing to the death of Dr. Tiller.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    Why do they care if a woman seeking an abortion died afterwards? I mean, I know they don't, but that struck me.
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    Image of EndangeredRed EndangeredRed
    12/04/09

    @SarahMC: God. This is what bothers me possibly the most about their logic. They know they would have no ground to stand on if they came out and said what they really think, which is that women who get abortions are baby-killers, so instead they pitch "women as victims" of abortion doctors. Because the doctor is just running around, stabbing pregnant women in the stomach, right?
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    Image of sybann sybann
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    What about the crime of obstructing citizens of their rightful access to constitutionally allowed medical procedures that may very well be vital to said woman's survival?

    Oh, that knocked up whore isn't nearly as important as the innocent life she's carrying? Until that innocent life gets knocked up herself. THEN her life is diminshed based on another potential little soldier.

    You make me sick. We should declare war on this lot of pustulant boils on the asshole of the universe.
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    Image of femme-bot femme-bot
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    Stuff like this makes me want to protest and harass anti-choice women when they go into labor.
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    Image of PaintedTrollop PaintedTrollop
    12/04/09

    @femme-bot: It makes me want to harass men going into the urologists office.
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    Image of Flackette Goes Retro Flackette Goes Retro
    12/04/09

    In reply to Model Behaviors
    When I found out she was a member of "Feminists for Life" I looked them up and read some of their back newsletters. They had several articles about the evil of birth control pills. That was enough to put me off of her FOREVER (even before we learned everything else about her stances).
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    12/04/09

    @Flackette Goes Retro: It's funny that they call themselves feminists.
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    Image of BAngieB BAngieB
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    Hey, Operation Rescue? The man who raped Christin Gilbert is responsible for her situation. Go after him.

    Or, HELL, I killed her. Bring it.
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    Image of ghanedi ghanedi
    12/04/09

    @BAngieB: Thank you! I was like... where is there language against the intial violence that this poor woman suffered that led to her needing an abortion? And, if she was raped, why did she need a late-term abortion? Why didn't she have resources available to her to make that decision earlier? There are bigger fish to fry here, people!
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    Image of Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny. Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
    12/04/09

    @BAngieB: I love you a little bit for that comment. I can handle it, come after me for a bit, give him a fucking break.
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    Image of cate3710 cate3710
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    Jesus, "abortion mill"? Ugh. I hate extreme anti-choice language.

    Thank you Dr. Carhart, for sacrificing your ability to live a normal life and risking your own safety to perform a much needed and much appreciated service to women in need. I wish there were more like you and that all the extra precautions weren't necessary to ensure your safety.
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    Image of BAngieB BAngieB
    12/04/09

    @cate3710: I sincerely doubt they call it the "Jesus Abortion Mill."
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    12/04/09

    @BAngieB: And yet, I have heard some of these idiots argue against abortion because "if it was legal then, Mary probably would have gotten one, she was pregnant and unmarried!" So maybe they would!

    #idiotswithmegaphones
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    Image of lalie (apologetic mess) lalie (apologetic mess)
    12/04/09

    @yvanehtnioj: Whaaaaaaaat? But dude, God knocked her up with her consent. And then went and told her fiance, "yo, I'm the babydaddy, so don't beat her". Anyways being betrothed was pretty much the same thing as being married anyways so everyone probably assumed the baby was Joseph's.
    I am confused by this argument.
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    12/04/09

    @lalie (apologetic mess): You're confused because you're looking for logic. All you need to look for is Abortion = Killing Jesus. That's the whole point. Blergh.
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    Image of supersoygrrrl supersoygrrrl
    12/04/09

    @yvanehtnioj: But she was married though. Jesus actually had TWO dads even!
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    12/04/09

    @supersoygrrrl: She wasn't married when she conceived. (I love how I'm discussing this as though I think it actually happened.) In response to your second sentence: ZOMG GOD IS GAY!!
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    12/04/09

    In reply to After Tiller: Operation Rescue Picks New Target
    I'd like to donate to a fund that pays his security team.
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    Image of dergugelhupf dergugelhupf
    12/05/09

    @yvanehtnioj: Here are some links for directing a gift towards clinic security through the National Abortion Federation (www.prochoice.org).

    [www.prochoice.org]

    "Your gift will immediately be put to work where the need is greatest. Currently NAF has several projects that are directly impacting the safety and security of providers as well as ensuring that women can continue to access safe, quality abortion care."

    Here's a list of what you can direct your gift towards:
    -NAF Hotline
    -NAF Rachel Falls Patient Assistance Fund
    -Security and Clinic Defense
    -Abortion Access/Clinicians for Choice
    -Patient Partnership
    -Pro-Choice Advocacy
    -International Support

    The URL for clinic security specifically: [www.prochoice.org]

    and the description: "NAF's security experts are available to our members 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for emergency support. When a crisis occurs, we send emergency response teams to clinic sites to provide immediate, on-the-ground assistance. We perform security assessments at the clinics and homes of our members, and train clinic staff in practical, day-to-day procedures that could save their lives. We also meet with key law enforcement officials to educate them about the security needs of our members, and urge them to investigate and prosecute anti-choice criminal activities."

    Hopefully this is what you were looking for.

    (I am not affiliated with this organization but I remember reading about it. A quick google search + copypasta et voila!)
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    12/05/09

    @dergugelhupf: That's exactly what I wanted, thanks!
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    Image of bluewine bluewine
    12/04/09

    In reply to Model Behaviors
    I am ridiculously offended by the implication that anyone who thinks abortion--a legal medical procedure--should stay legal, that person therefore thinks every special needs fetus should be aborted. What part of the word "choice" is so hard for these idiots to wrap their head around?!
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    Image of PaigeTurner PaigeTurner
    12/04/09

    @bluewine: beyond insulting. no one has ever said that sarah palin shouldn't have had trig.

    that was her CHOICE to make. that is all we want! i want to tear my hair out- what is wrong with these people?
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    Image of GreyCat GreyCat
    12/04/09

    In reply to Model Behaviors
    She is also a model for the pro-choice movement: a model of the danger of ignorance.
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