@VeiledThreats: You and me both.Its bad enough I have to worry about being raped now I have to worry about being harrased about being Muslim is just too much.
I'm sure he was just overwhelmed with concern about how "oppressed" Muslim women are.
It's fascinating seeing the comments on those websites and seeing people simultaneously claim they don't like Islam because it's oppressive and violent and saying women should go back to their own country and get their heads chopped off, etc.
Am I the only person who suspects that rather then two women they had been, say, two burly Muslim men, Mr Ballance may have been inclined to look the other way?
I'm so glad that the women had the sense to take down his license plate number and report him.
From first hand experience, it's sometimes easier to mumble "idiot" under your breathe and wipe your tears away.
Ballance was being held on $10,000 cash bond. He is represented by the county Legal Aid Society, where the telephone rang unanswered Thursday evening.
THIS is why I couldn't be a public defender. God bless those attorneys who do choose this line of work and uphold our Constitution, but I for one, could not defend this man.
@zpmadd: It said in the article that "The misdemeanor aggravated harassment charge against Ballance is used for crimes related to a victim's race, religion or certain other characteristics," so I think it's on par with a hate crime?
@zpmadd: the Hate Crime Unit is involved, but because he didn't touch them, and only threatened, they cannot charge battery. It seems from the article like they're taking it as seriously as they can.
@SunburnedCounsel: See, this is where I get confused. Two people vs. a psycho in a two-ton vehicle. He threatened and went after them with his car. That should meet the criteria for battery...even if he didn't touch them.
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@cheerfulp is always five minutes ahead of herself: It meets the criteria for assault (which is the fear of being hit et al) but not battery, which requires contact. He was behaving very very threateningly, but from the article it doesn't look like he made any contact.
@SunburnedCounsel: Wait, no, in NYS this could have been charged as an attempted first or second degree assault, both of which are felonies. The victim needs to be placed in a position where she would be either seriously physically injured or seriously physically injured by a dangerous weapon or instrument. The issue in this case is that the DA does not think that the defendant came within a dangerous proximity of successfully completing the crime because he did not drive close enough to the victims. In NYS, the defendant must come very close to actually successfully completing the crime, because the penalty for attempted assault 1 and 2 is quite high. Generally, if a defendant is found guilty of attempted assault, it must be that he didn't succeed because he was somehow interrupted, either by the victim escaping, his own incompetency, or the intervention of a third party.
The important thing here, which is not clear from the article, is why the defendant did not actually succeed in harming the victims.
I think you're thinking of tort law, not the New York State Penal Codes.
@NellMood: It is quite a maelstrom of hatred on there. On the brave side someone on there is reminding the nutjobs that unless they are Native American, they are immigrants and should shut up about hating immigrants.
Sometimes I tell myself that this country progressed enough that race really doesn't matter. And then these stories completely shatter that illusion.
"First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me." -- Martin Niemöller
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It's fascinating seeing the comments on those websites and seeing people simultaneously claim they don't like Islam because it's oppressive and violent and saying women should go back to their own country and get their heads chopped off, etc.
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Mirthless laugh. No, I don't. Not today.
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From first hand experience, it's sometimes easier to mumble "idiot" under your breathe and wipe your tears away.
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It’s time to open the wine.
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THIS is why I couldn't be a public defender. God bless those attorneys who do choose this line of work and uphold our Constitution, but I for one, could not defend this man.
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The important thing here, which is not clear from the article, is why the defendant did not actually succeed in harming the victims.
I think you're thinking of tort law, not the New York State Penal Codes.
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What is wrong with people????
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"First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me." -- Martin Niemöller
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That is all I can say.