9/11 - Jezebel

posts about #911 more →
Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
The Big Guns
On Reflection
Mother Of The Disappeared
The Center Of The World
Memorial Day
Cranks & Liars

What Julia Allison & John McCain Have Done To Journalism
9/11, Self-Esteem & Celebrity Tabloids: It's A Depressing Day All Around

Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.

Dsmvwl Admin Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×

cirocco
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
Trojan 2Go: a uniquely portable condom, unlike all the other condoms on the market that won't fit into your pocket...

Wait, what? I'm also confused by the "shareable" part of Trojan's pitch. I'm going to break the packet in half and give one of them to... whom? The couple I see out dancing who shouldn't, in my esteemed opinion, be procreating like the disco freaks who begat the movie disruptor? I don't get it. #condomad
Reply

cirocco was starred cirocco was unstarred

jemandtheholograms
11/14/09

@cirocco: It's like those BFF heart necklaces you break apart. #condomad
Reply

jemandtheholograms was starred

Elaken
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
It always bothers me how people want to adopt dogs that they saw in the media. I volunteered at the Humane Society and whenever a dog was featured in the newspaper or tv as up for adoption people would come in wanting the dog. What happens when it was already adopted? They'd mostly just turn around and leave.

There are *so* many animals out there in need I am not necessarily against spending the money and resources on a larger number of animals instead of just one. #condomad
Reply

Elaken was starred Elaken was unstarred

SarahMC
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
Another day, another pit bull's life destroyed by a horrible human. #condomad
Reply

SarahMC was starred SarahMC was unstarred

fakezen
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
If somebody threw me off a building, I'd become unpredictably aggressive too. #condomad
Reply

curiousgeorgiana promoted this comment fakezen was starred fakezen was unstarred

Rose.Selavy.Needs.A.Drink
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
I know violence is not the answer, but if he is found guilty, then 19 year old Fabian Henderson’s sentence should be to drop from a six story building. Give him the chance he gave Oreo for survival.

The world is going to turn me into this demented woman wandering around muttering, "why, why, why?" #condomad
Reply

MediasBlue promoted this comment

Keyper81
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
The thought behind the Trojan ad is funny but I think this company does it better: #condomad
Reply

Elaken promoted this comment Keyper81 was starred Keyper81 was unstarred

Elaken
11/13/09

@Keyper81: I love that commercial. I had a bumper sticker that said "It's easier to change a condom than a diaper." #condomad
Reply

Elaken was starred Elaken was unstarred

babzie
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
Why does the annoying guy have to be fat? Wouldn't the thought of giving birth to a Paul Janka type be a much more effective deterrent to unwanted pregnancy? #condomad
Reply

sybann promoted this comment babzie was starred babzie was unstarred

sybann
11/13/09

@babzie: GOD YES #condomad
Reply

sybann was starred sybann was unstarred

special_boots
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
"Scientists from the University of California tested the pain threshold of 25 women in various situations and found that they didn't hurt as much when their romantic partner was holding their hand, and experienced even less pain when just looking at his picture."

This link goes to the "Mr. Yale" article instead of the article described, and I really want to read the study! #condomad
Reply

special_boots was starred special_boots was unstarred

Margaret
11/13/09

@special_boots: Sorry, I fixed it. The study is here: [www.scientificamerican.com] #condomad
Reply

Margaret was starred Margaret was unstarred

special_boots
11/13/09

@Margaret: Oh boy. Thanks! #condomad
Reply

special_boots was starred special_boots was unstarred

Dodgergirl
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
Ann Coulter's right, of course. She and Rush and Sarah Palin and their brand of conservative commentator... they're just all so silenced by the media. #condomad
Reply

Dodgergirl was starred Dodgergirl was unstarred

Dodgergirl
11/13/09

@Dodgergirl: Oh wait. That was actually a beautiful dream I had last night. Never mind. #condomad
Reply

Dodgergirl was starred Dodgergirl was unstarred

mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it
11/13/09

@Dodgergirl: That's why my Christmas tree will have one of these...
[images.regretsy.com] #condomad
Reply

Bitingpika
11/13/09

@mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it: Going... rouge? #condomad
Reply

mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it promoted this comment Bitingpika was starred Bitingpika was unstarred

mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it
11/13/09

@Bitingpika: Well anyone who would go up to a counter and buy one should go rouge. #condomad
Reply

Bitingpika
11/13/09

@mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it: I just can't believe she's using a French word. How unpatriotic! I mean, what have the French ever done for the U.S.? #condomad
Reply

Bitingpika was starred Bitingpika was unstarred

Triana Orpheus
11/13/09

In reply to Trojan Explains How To Prevent "Mistakes" • Palin Takes Book Tour To Fort Hood
Jill Berry I think that is a wonderful idea if in the same breath you tell girls that it's okay if they don't beat themselves up for rushing to get married and have children in order to focus on their careers. The point should be don't beat yourself up for choosing your choice. #condomad
Reply

Triana Orpheus was starred Triana Orpheus was unstarred

Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
11/14/09

@Triana Orpheus: I'm sort of concerned that she used the words 'lesser job.' I assume she just means a job that makes less money or is only part time. Or raising children. Or running the household. Or all three. Calling any of these 'lesser' is why Daddy can't be expected to make dinner, or Mommy doesn't get to decide where they go on vacation, because he's got the 'important' job. #condomad
Reply

Pizza!Pizza!Pizza! was starred

salthegeek
11/03/09

In reply to The Big Guns
This might sound kinda bad but what type of boots is she wearing? I'm trying to find a pair that can last a while. #ussnewyork
Reply

salthegeek was starred salthegeek was unstarred

GitEmSteveDave_ My Brute Dojo Code CDIAFIFE
11/03/09

@salthegeek: Looks like US Mil Desert Boots. Here's a place I deal with: [www.sportsmansguide.com] They do military surplus. Where else can you get a pound of OD thread? #ussnewyork
Reply

Hiroine Protagonist
11/03/09

In reply to The Big Guns
Great - forging ploughshares into swords. #ussnewyork
Reply

BearDownCBears
11/03/09

@Hiroine Protagonist: I'm pretty sure there's a "women + guns" Google search they run around here like twice a week for no particular purpose. Like, are they trying to provoke a debate, or what? #ussnewyork
Reply

BearDownCBears was starred BearDownCBears was unstarred

Hiroine Protagonist
11/03/09

@BearDownCBears: That is absolutely not what I was getting at. I was referring to the cycle of violence continuing with Trade Centre steel being forged into a bloody warship. #ussnewyork
Reply

Anna
11/03/09

@BearDownCBears: ? Who runs a Google search? #ussnewyork
Reply

Anna was starred Anna was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

In reply to The Big Guns
The sight of the ponytail/bun in this photo got me thinking: What's the story with female soldiers being allowed to have long hair? (Or, conversely, what's the deal with male soldiers being forced to have short hair?) I understand that women are held to different physical standards, but it seems like the crew cut could be mandatory regardless of gender. I wonder why it's not? #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

GirlFailer
11/03/09

@Kivrin: I don't know the "story" is, but I'd guess it's simply tougher to recruit women if they are told they have to lop off their hair. Women are, however, expected to keep their hair tidy and out of their faces. There are strict regulations on the hairstyles they are allowed to keep, just as men have certain measurements they have maintain on their heads. Honestly long hair is easier to maintain in the military, IMO. I've had short and long, and short is tough because shit gets in it, and you have to brush it out of your eyes. Buns are easy to maintain, and enough Rave hairsprays will protect your head from bullets. (Kidding. Sort of.)
Reply

Edited by GirlFailer at 11/03/09 12:41 PM GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred

marciax3
11/03/09

@Kivrin: Former Marine here: Men are required to have short hair because of sanitary reasons during combat. Women are not allowed to fight in combat (tho' we have/do).

We are required to have our hair in a knot or cut short enough to not touch our collars. I GIJaned it and went with a buzz. I looked like the Fresh Prince. Not. cute. #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer promoted this comment marciax3 was starred marciax3 was unstarred

alexburrito
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: You must be kidding about Rave. Only Aquanet is bulletproof, right? #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer promoted this comment alexburrito was starred alexburrito was unstarred

GirlFailer
11/03/09

@marciax3: We are women Marines, and we march with pride...
We march shoulder to shoulder and side by side....

God, that sounds more lame every time I say it. #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred

GirlFailer
11/03/09

@alexburrito: Fuck that, Aquanet is bad for the environment. ;) #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@marciax3: Ah, okay, the "sanitary reasons" makes sense—easier to clean a head wound when the hair around it is already clipped. It will be interesting to see whether the requirement for women's hair changes if/when they are "officially" allowed in combat (as they should be).
Reply

Edited by Kivrin at 11/03/09 12:52 PM Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

marciax3
11/03/09

@Kivrin: Trust me when I say that the women with balls (or ovaries) enough to join the Corps could give two shits about having a high and tight.

That said, the sanitary issues have more to do with lice, dirt, sweat and other things long hair isn't compatible with. You got be able to go on the fly. #ussnewyork
Reply

marciax3 was starred marciax3 was unstarred

marciax3
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: Hey, I was prideful. You don't know how much juice being a Marine gets me on a daily basis;-) The dudes I work with are all cowed. teehee. #ussnewyork
Reply

marciax3 was starred marciax3 was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@marciax3: Yeah, that's what made me wonder: Seems like the women who join the military wouldn't give a crap about shaving their heads! And that makes sense re: lice and stuff—you can tell I approach things from a medical perspective, with my concern over head wounds. :-P #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

marciax3
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: Oh, the RAVE clouds I had to navigate in the barracks. I'm having flashbacks. And stepping on the whitegirls' bobbypins! Oh lawd! #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer promoted this comment marciax3 was starred marciax3 was unstarred

GirlFailer
11/03/09

@marciax3: You really think so? I think that being told that you would have to cut your hair off would turn away some potential recruits. I view the hair regulations as more of a conformation thing. Men keep high and tights women keep buns or braids.

As far as the sanitary issues, I also had long hair, and knew several other female Marines that kept their hair long, and lice and sweat were never issues. In theater if you had a bun it stayed in unless you were showering; you even wore it too bed, so you were ready at any time. Just a different opinion of hair in the military. #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred

GirlFailer
11/03/09

@marciax3: I apologize as a white girl, those things pop out every where. #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred

marciax3
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: I guess the conformity thing is a part of it also, but the bill of goods I was sold suggested creepy crawlies were the reason.
I think if the potential female recruits were signing up for combat, not just service, that would've already discouraged the fainthearted and coif conscious. You know what I mean?

I kept a bun for a couple of years, shaved it off after arguing with a gunny about why the black WMs couldn't get braids, then had a HUGE as afro that I couldn't get my cover on. Ah, the many stylings of Corporal X3.
Reply

Edited by marciax3 at 11/03/09 12:59 PM marciax3 was starred marciax3 was unstarred

marciax3
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: Well, I'll apologize for leaving JAM containers on the sink in the head for all the black girls, then:-D #ussnewyork
Reply

marciax3 was starred marciax3 was unstarred

GirlFailer
11/03/09

@marciax3: I totally see what you are saying about the fact that if you are in it for more than a job, the haircut shouldn't matter. I think that the armed forces just care about their numbers, sadly.

I swear to God, every unit has one person who bitches about the fact that the women of color could have more than one braid, but the white females couldn't. Every. Unit. #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred

marciax3
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: When I was in, we couldn't. I fought tooth and nail.

I guess I won! Yay!

That reminds me of all the girls who complain that the muslim students can wear a scarf, but they can't wear a beret or a kerchief. Straight up Dog in the Manger. If the white servicewomen want to trade hair with a black woman to get that privilege, line up... #ussnewyork
Reply

marciax3 was starred marciax3 was unstarred

GirlFailer
11/03/09

@marciax3: Hey! 3 big braids, or as many teeny braids as you can fit on the noggin, now! Good job!

The poor, blond woman in our unit never got the chance to wear her hair in anything but a single french braid. She never could wear her hair in 3 large braids after all. The injustice of it all. heh. #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer was starred GirlFailer was unstarred

poachedeggs
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: Thats worse than yelling "GET SOME" every time we go through a movement in MCMAP. #ussnewyork
Reply

GirlFailer promoted this comment poachedeggs was starred poachedeggs was unstarred

la.donna.pietra
11/03/09

@GirlFailer: I have a sneaking suspicion that portions of the armed forces still have some silly notions about female soldiers being ladylike and dainty. There may even be creepier stuff pertaining to some of Paul's wackier ideas in the New Testament about women needing to wear their hair long.
Reply

Edited by la.donna.pietra at 11/03/09 2:03 PM la.donna.pietra was starred la.donna.pietra was unstarred

Adah
11/03/09

@Kivrin: Hey, women who join the military still like to look feminine once in a while. I don't have the bone structure to pull a Natalie Portman post V for Vendetta look. #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin promoted this comment Adah was starred Adah was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@Adah: There are plenty of military guys who don't have the bone structure for a crew cut, either, but they don't have a choice. I was curious as to why women were given more leeway on a standard that seems like it could be easily enforced regardless of gender.
Reply

Edited by Kivrin at 11/03/09 2:46 PM Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

Adah
11/03/09

@Kivrin: I was replying to your comment where you said it seems like women who joined the military wouldn't give a crap about shaving their heads. #ussnewyork
Reply

Adah was starred Adah was unstarred

Marya
11/03/09

@Kivrin: I've been in the military for six years, and I would be extremely upset if I was told I had to shave my head. Most women who are in the military are not radicals -- they join the military for financial reasons, or because of patriotism, or because they want to travel, or for a wide variety of other reasons -- but none of that means that they necessarily want to give up their femininity. Even hardcore tomboys who join the military often find themselves becoming more feminine as they assert that they are in fact women. #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin promoted this comment Marya was starred Marya was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@Adah: Ah, I see. I made that assumption because if I, as a woman, were going to join the military, I would probably want to shave my head just to remove another distinction between myself and the males in the service—whether I had the bone structure for it or not. I apologize for assuming that other women would feel the same way.

But yeah, I'll go ahead and say, I think it's unfair that women are allowed more freedom in their hairstyle. If a braid is acceptable on a woman, then a man in a non-combat position should be able to keep his hair long and braid it. The hairstyle thing just seems like such a bullshit area in which to create division; why not apply the same standard to everyone? #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

Marya
11/03/09

@Kivrin: Forcing both men and women to get crew cuts is not equality, because American society doesn't regard crew-cut men and women in the same way. Men with crew cuts look conservative and masculine; similarly, women are required to wear their hair in a conservative, relatively feminine style. #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin promoted this comment Marya was starred Marya was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@Marya: I understand that, I really do. I'm just concerned that this allowance that is granted for women—i.e., having options about how to wear one's hair—could create unnecessary gender-based divisions. If I were a guy who wanted to have a different hairstyle, I would resent the fact that I had to maintain a crew cut while women could wear their hair long. Given the fact that many male soldiers already resent the different physical/strength standards for women, the hair thing seems like an unnecessary bit of divisiveness. But I'm not in the military, so it is entirely possible (probable!) that I just don't get it! #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@Marya: I actually don't think women should be required to get crew-cuts; I just think that men should be allowed to wear their hair longer, too. More freedom for everyone. But again, I'm not in the military, and there are things about that system that I will just never understand. And that's okay. #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

Ginmar Rienne
11/03/09

@Kivrin: Which male soldiers are you talking to, by the way? There's plenty of variations in capabilities that have nothing to do with age, but do have to do with age and weight, something that affects us all. They're not making fifty-year-old Master SGTs. pass the eighteen-year-old male PT test, does that bother you, too?

The men in the military have more important things to worry about, for the most part. #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin promoted this comment Ginmar Rienne was starred Ginmar Rienne was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@Ginmar Rienne: Good to know; I don't know that many soldiers/service members of either gender, so my sample size is definitely limited.
Reply

Edited by Kivrin at 11/03/09 6:05 PM Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

Ginmar Rienne
11/03/09

@Kivrin: Guys who get bent out of shape about womens' hair and womens' alleged physical weaknesses aren't worth wasting time on, anyway. Those are code phrases that hide an awful lot of experience.
Reply

Edited by Ginmar Rienne at 11/03/09 6:09 PM Ginmar Rienne was starred Ginmar Rienne was unstarred

Ginmar Rienne
11/03/09

@Ginmar Rienne: Those are code phrases that hide an awful lot of sexism, in my experience. Seventeen years in the military. #ussnewyork
Reply

Kivrin promoted this comment Ginmar Rienne was starred Ginmar Rienne was unstarred

Kivrin
11/03/09

@Ginmar Rienne: What are code phrases—the male complaints I made reference to? If so, I have NO doubt that many male service members are sexist. That's one of the main reasons why I was contemplating the idea of giving 'em one less thing (i.e., gender-specific hair reqs) to gripe about. But y'know what, I'm sure they'd find some other bullshit reason to disguise their sexism, so it's probably a moot point! Thanks for weighing in with your experience.
Reply

Edited by Kivrin at 11/03/09 6:18 PM Kivrin was starred Kivrin was unstarred

Marya
11/05/09

@Kivrin: Personally, I would have no problem with long-haired or bearded male soldiers, but I can't see the (male-dominated) chain of command approving anything like that anytime soon. Honestly I think it has more to do with what they think looks appropriate than with hygiene/safety concerns. #ussnewyork
Reply

Marya was starred Marya was unstarred

Diziet_Sma
11/03/09

In reply to The Big Guns
I love that they made no reference to gender in that caption. LOVE IT. #ussnewyork
Reply

Diziet_Sma was starred Diziet_Sma was unstarred

sybann
11/03/09

In reply to The Big Guns
Someone alert Christian Siriano - THIS is fierce. #ussnewyork
Reply

sybann was starred sybann was unstarred

Earlier discussions Other discussions Show all discussions Show featured discussions only Start a new discussion

SUBSCRIBE TO Jezebel

Login

Reset Password

Register

Submit Your Comment