That last paragraph is absolutely brilliant and think it's advice every woman should take, whether modeling, acting, in relationships or in everyday life. Someone will always be able to find a flaw in you, and there will always be someone looking for exactly who you are.
I'm bursting to share this: Kortnie on ANTM once dated Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (NASCAR driver). She was seen wearing a shirt that said, "Not everything in Kansas is flat!"
I agree with the Slate ladies who commented that this whole fat controversy is awful convenient for J-Simp. Not saying she wore the pants on purpose (because the pants were the issue, not her weight, which no one in the tabs will admit). But it wouldn't surprise me if a few months from now she's all "HOW I LOST 20 POUNDS: Hotter than Ever! And Madly in Love!"
And she sometimes wears Brad's old t-shirts to sleep in.
Does this remind anyone else of the scene in Mean Girls where Regina tells Aaron that Cady sleeps with his used Kleenex under her pillow and wears a t-shirt that says "I ♥ Aaron" under all her clothes?
I can't help but think this is completely made up Regina George-style.
@yvanehtnioj: True talk, I LIVE for makeover night. Last season my cousin's best friend had just gotten broken up with and she called my cousin crying and wanting to come over and we were like "...No...it's makeover night..."
Yes, we are terrible people, but we let her come and cry afterwards during the rerun of gossip girl.
I have wondered about the Jolie-Pitt kids as well. How can they form any bonds with other children, or have the structure that so many experts say children need if they are dragged all over the globe? Much less what kind of education are they getting.
@badmutha: I said this exact same thing in another post and people jumped all over me. They have no stability. We moved a lot when I was a kid, but we had other types of routines - we took our furniture with us, we went to school, we had bedtimes, etc. And from the interviews and whatnot, it doesn't seem like the Jolie-Pitt clan does any of that kind of (even trivial) stuff. They just sort of up and move on every 6 months or so. Six years in childcare tells me its just not good or healthy for them.
There seem to be a lot of similarities between Nadya Suleman and Angelina Jolie, in the collection of children to "fix" emotional issues. I don't get one mother is vilified while the other becomes Mother Teresa.
@l8rsk8r:This info is from a tabloid and yet you sound as if it comes from a real news source!! You and others seem to quote only what you read in tabloids about this family and not what Angelina or Brad say about their family. I would prefer to believe what the parents say rather than some idiotic tabloid "source." Those children wake up every morning and go to bed every night knowing that the people who love them most in the world will be there for them. What other kind of stability should a child need? A house is just bricks and morter; furniture is just stuff; how can any of that make a child more stable? And, according to Angelina Jolie, a tutor travels with them for Maddox. None of the other children are school age.
I see no similaries between Ms. Suleman and Angelina Jolie. Ms. Suleman is using taxpayer money to support her 14 children. (She is receiving food stamps, along with a monthly check to help with her THREE special needs kids, plus taxpayers will foot the bill for the octos hospital bills, said to be over a million dollars.) That is why she is being vilified.
Angelina does not have 14 children, she has six and three of those were adopted. She also has a man helping her with her six children and she does not live in a three bedroom house with her mother!!! She and Brad are also two of the top money earners in Hollywood. They don't need a website for donations. And she does not claim to be Mother Teresa
@mslewis: I'm not saying that Angelina and Brad don't have structure for their kids, but children definitely fare better in a *highly* structured environment with *very* predictable routines. Basically kids need to be bored to death. I think moving a lot could in some ways lead to a sort of internal instability in a person. But we all grow up in an unstable environment in one way or another, so I dunno, I don't think speculations about how someone else raises their kids is really for us to judge.
How can there be so much girl on girl hatred of Suleman? Look guys, SHE HAS MENTAL PROBLEMS. She is not fodder for our jokes and puns and anger. Every new fact that comes to light makes it seem more and more likely that she deals with some sort of mental illness. Why is it suddenly ok to mock her? Because she made poor decisions? Because she isn't monetarily able to support her growing family? Because she "seems" to prey on the good will of others? Look there are THOUSANDS of people in my city alone that do this, and because they are successful and male and white they get a free pass. I am really really really uncomfortable with the mounting vitriol.
believe me, i feel sorry for whatever happened to her in childhood that made her so obviously disturbed, but one learns in therapy, no matter the mental illness, that one is responsible for their poor decisions as adults, regardless of their illness or circumstances, especially decisions that affect FOURTEEN children and her parents. her decisions will create hardship for many and a strain on many. sympathy is just allowing her to not feel the consequences of her actions something she obviously has a problem with, and actually feeds her illness.
i'm tired of being begged for sympathy for her. no. save your sympathy for the children. they will surely need it.
@Stabby McStabberson loves annoying Gawker commenters with h...: Ditto. People with mental health problems--obvious or not--don't get a free pass for their actions. I said it once before today--as someone who works in the mental health field, the worst thing you can do for someone with a problem is feed the delusion that the problem makes him/her "special" and above reproach. There are obvious exceptions, but this doesn't seem to be one of them. If she can legally sign consent forms for medical procedures, she's not so far out there that she can't/shouldn't be held accountable for her actions.
Like it or not a mental illness DOES effect your decision making. IT DOES make it more difficult to make rational and reasonable decisions, and I will NOT except that one is solely responsible for the bad decisions they have made when they are dealing with a chemical imbalance in their brain. That is like saying I am responsible for not winning a marathon when I was trying to run it with two broken legs. TECHNICALLY it is correct. I am the one who has the broken legs. I am the won who is trying to win a marathon. But it is not fair to hold me to the same standards as one who is running on two functioning legs.
When my mother killed herself she left behind a LEGION of people whose entire life was changed because of that one act. But the bottom line is that while she was ultimately the one who made the decision to do what she did, she was not capable of making a rational decision when she did it.
I am not asking you for sympathy. I am asking you not to fucking mock the poor woman every fucking chance you get and save your fucking ire for someone more fucking deserving of it.
@Stabby McStabberson loves annoying Gawker commenters with h...: I gotta agree with you here. She doesn't deserve open mockery or contempt, but she also should not be coddled or given a free pass because she is mentally unstable. Having compassion for someone with mental illness does not necessarily negate calling them on their shit. My sympathies are absolutely with the children, who are the ones who will really suffer from her irresponsibility.
@Stabby McStabberson loves annoying Gawker commenters with her sentence-long username: Whether her childhood, her biochemical makeup, or both (probably the latter) have caused her emotional disturbances, there's a hell of a lot of difference between taking responsibility for your actions and not understanding the ramifications of said actions the way other people might. The woman didn't get too drunk and make an ass of herself at the office party. Her decisions bespeak a level of illness that bootstrap talk won't quick-fix and derision *will* certainly compound. And I've said it before, I'm saying it again: Why on earth is it so hard to have sympathy for her AND her children? Is there a compassion shortage? Since when does sympathy feed mental illness? Yeah, hate is a MUCH more effective tactic.
@Cerridwen: Since when is asking that someone not be publicly mocked coddling them or giving them a free pass? You know, I also think we shouldn't coddle people in wheelchairs. No more handicap ramps, no more handicap parking. You say you are compassionate with one breath and then attribute her actions to irresponsibilty with the next.
I have been a flake my entire life. I could not keep an appointment, I couldn't remember to do the simplest of tasks and I have spent the last 27 years of my life beating myself up every step of the way. If you asked my father to describe me in one word it would have been "irresponsible". Last month I was diagnosed with ADD. I was started on medication and lo and behold suddenly I am able to do things I couldn't do my entire life. I am a changed woman, because I took a medication that normalized my FUCKING BRAIN CHEMISTRY.
Mental illnesses are real illnesses. This woman and her children deserve our sympathy.
@NYGal81: So I'm hanging out with my friends playing football and one of them starts to wheeze and get out of breath. It also happens that her team is loosing. My fellow players make fun of her, saying "What a baby" or "She is so out of shape" Suddenly we notice her go to the sidelines and use an inhaler. It just so happens that she is asthmatic. As such, we no longer mock her for being out of breath.
Is this considered giving her "special" treatment. Is she "beyond reproach" are we treating her like a special snowflake? NO we are taking into account the disabilities she might have before we make fun of her. It really really saddens me that a person in the mental health field thinks taking ones mental illness into effect before judging them is akin to giving them special treatment.
@Vivelafat is the Quizat Haderach: I am in NO WAY saying that people with mental illnesses don't deserve compassion. That is exactly what I am NOT saying. I don't think she deserves open mockery or disrespect or much of the useless vitriol that has been spewed her way (and am frankly getting tired of it). But I do think people can firmly disagree with and call out her actions, given that she has put herself in such a public position willingly on more than one occasion. Compassion and firm disagreement with ethically terrible choices are NOT mutually exclusive. I know this because I have been in a five year long relationship with someone who has battled mental illness. He suffers from clinical depression because of his brain chemistry but he would agree that sometimes he was willingly made bad choices and done things that were not healthy and hurt other people. He would not expect me or anyone else to absolve him of all responsibility, despite the fact that I know his illness is a real illness. Believe me, I respect that and KNOW the reality of mental ilness. Also, being flaky is not the same as being criminally negligent, which is what this woman has been. You don't need to beat yourself up because you are late to things; Nadya Suleman, however, should take a good hard look at the consequences of her actions. There is nothing overly harsh about expecting that. The ONLY point I was making was that expecting her to have no responsibility for choices she made is not really fair, ESPECIALLY given that she now has 14 lives to care for. No one should hate or mock or shame her and I never suggested they should.
@Cerridwen: To further clarify....I'm not expecting Nadya Suleman to feel guilty for her actions, either. Just to accept responsibility and understand how completely divorced from reality she has become (otherwise those poor kids will continue to suffer). And if she is to ever get therapy for her alleged illness, she will surely have to undergo this process then.
@Cerridwen: I apologize for my anger. I agree with what you are saying and think it would be healthy for her to take a good long look at the realities of her mental state and the care which she plans to give to these children.
I realized last night that I was taking this matter very personally and getting more angry than was appropriate for the situation. I have a personal stake in this argument and was getting angry and my own demons and not necessarily what you were typing. I still hold true to what I said, but I'm sorry I said it so irrationally.
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Does this remind anyone else of the scene in Mean Girls where Regina tells Aaron that Cady sleeps with his used Kleenex under her pillow and wears a t-shirt that says "I ♥ Aaron" under all her clothes?
I can't help but think this is completely made up Regina George-style.
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Yes, we are terrible people, but we let her come and cry afterwards during the rerun of gossip girl.
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There seem to be a lot of similarities between Nadya Suleman and Angelina Jolie, in the collection of children to "fix" emotional issues. I don't get one mother is vilified while the other becomes Mother Teresa.
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I see no similaries between Ms. Suleman and Angelina Jolie. Ms. Suleman is using taxpayer money to support her 14 children. (She is receiving food stamps, along with a monthly check to help with her THREE special needs kids, plus taxpayers will foot the bill for the octos hospital bills, said to be over a million dollars.) That is why she is being vilified.
Angelina does not have 14 children, she has six and three of those were adopted. She also has a man helping her with her six children and she does not live in a three bedroom house with her mother!!! She and Brad are also two of the top money earners in Hollywood. They don't need a website for donations. And she does not claim to be Mother Teresa
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believe me, i feel sorry for whatever happened to her in childhood that made her so obviously disturbed, but one learns in therapy, no matter the mental illness, that one is responsible for their poor decisions as adults, regardless of their illness or circumstances, especially decisions that affect FOURTEEN children and her parents. her decisions will create hardship for many and a strain on many. sympathy is just allowing her to not feel the consequences of her actions something she obviously has a problem with, and actually feeds her illness.
i'm tired of being begged for sympathy for her. no. save your sympathy for the children. they will surely need it.
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Like it or not a mental illness DOES effect your decision making. IT DOES make it more difficult to make rational and reasonable decisions, and I will NOT except that one is solely responsible for the bad decisions they have made when they are dealing with a chemical imbalance in their brain. That is like saying I am responsible for not winning a marathon when I was trying to run it with two broken legs. TECHNICALLY it is correct. I am the one who has the broken legs. I am the won who is trying to win a marathon. But it is not fair to hold me to the same standards as one who is running on two functioning legs.
When my mother killed herself she left behind a LEGION of people whose entire life was changed because of that one act. But the bottom line is that while she was ultimately the one who made the decision to do what she did, she was not capable of making a rational decision when she did it.
I am not asking you for sympathy. I am asking you not to fucking mock the poor woman every fucking chance you get and save your fucking ire for someone more fucking deserving of it.
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@Stabby McStabberson loves annoying Gawker commenters with her sentence-long username: Whether her childhood, her biochemical makeup, or both (probably the latter) have caused her emotional disturbances, there's a hell of a lot of difference between taking responsibility for your actions and not understanding the ramifications of said actions the way other people might. The woman didn't get too drunk and make an ass of herself at the office party. Her decisions bespeak a level of illness that bootstrap talk won't quick-fix and derision *will* certainly compound. And I've said it before, I'm saying it again: Why on earth is it so hard to have sympathy for her AND her children? Is there a compassion shortage? Since when does sympathy feed mental illness? Yeah, hate is a MUCH more effective tactic.
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I have been a flake my entire life. I could not keep an appointment, I couldn't remember to do the simplest of tasks and I have spent the last 27 years of my life beating myself up every step of the way. If you asked my father to describe me in one word it would have been "irresponsible". Last month I was diagnosed with ADD. I was started on medication and lo and behold suddenly I am able to do things I couldn't do my entire life. I am a changed woman, because I took a medication that normalized my FUCKING BRAIN CHEMISTRY.
Mental illnesses are real illnesses. This woman and her children deserve our sympathy.
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Is this considered giving her "special" treatment. Is she "beyond reproach" are we treating her like a special snowflake? NO we are taking into account the disabilities she might have before we make fun of her. It really really saddens me that a person in the mental health field thinks taking ones mental illness into effect before judging them is akin to giving them special treatment.
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I realized last night that I was taking this matter very personally and getting more angry than was appropriate for the situation. I have a personal stake in this argument and was getting angry and my own demons and not necessarily what you were typing. I still hold true to what I said, but I'm sorry I said it so irrationally.
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Why in the hell does she still have a phone messaging system that requires cassette tapes?
Is she a throwback junkie or did she not know that the voicemail lady now lives in your phone?
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